Hello there,
Do you know whether this Thomas Bennett was a son of Thomas Bennett who was baptised at Ruardean on 1 May 1749? This Thomas senior is likely to have been a son of Richard Bennett and Ann Morse. I am trying to track the ancestry of James Bennett who was a Freeminer with interests in the Cheltenham Protector Coal Company. He had claims to part of Regulator 1, 2 and 3, and also with a claim in 1841 (together with Thomas Morse, chemist and druggist in Hereford)) to Independent or Thatch Pit.James Bennett died in 1841 aged 58, so he is possibly another son of Thomas Bennett and Jane Cowles.
Thanks and regards,
Denise Thompson

Year: 1783
Month: Jul
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: BENNETT
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John Harris Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Son of
Notes: Thos Evans John Symons Churchwardens. Father's name Thos entered in the PR expanded to Thomas.
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

maybe the same James

Year: 1841
Month: Mar
Day: 31
Surname: BENNETT
Forenames: James
Residence: Dry Brook House parish of Ruardean
Age_at_death: 58
Officiating_Minister: George Cox Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 in 1/9
Page_No: 39
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

No luck I am afraid, I did wonder if it was either Rebecca or Rachel Cowles daughters of Tobias & Elizabeth both baptised Westbury on Severn about the right time who maybe had a second name Jane, but I have found marriages for those two with witness Tobias.

Jim

This thread for which you have shown a link
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=18347#p18360
actually caused me to change my family tree. I have the highest regard for Graham Davison, and am always happy to change my tree to get it right.

I now have the parentage of James Bennett 1718 as being an uncertain James Bennett & Mary.

If anyone can provide more concrete data I would be grateful as James Bennett 1718 is one of my 6 times great grandfathers, so obviously his parents would be one of my 7 times great grandparents.

Jim Ashton

I am afraid I cannot tell you who William Jones parents are either, but have found the thread very interesting and it has helped me make further connections.

If I can add to the story, some of which I know you are familiar with (as I have you in my family tree and know your link to William Jones), but for the sake of the thread :

Timothy Bennett 1803 who married Beata Hale was the son of James Bennett 1783 and Sarah Marfell 1780 (well you knew they had to get in somewhere). James Bennett 1783 being the son of Thomas Bennett 1747 & Jane Cowles 1756. Thomas Bennett 1747, being the son of James Bennett 1718 & Elizabeth Hazel 1711. Thomas Bennett 1747 had 4 siblings including a brother James 1742 who married Elizabeth Annetts (one of my 5 times great grand parents, as their daughter Jane Bennett 1771 married John Marfell 1762)

Timothy Bennett's sister Jane Bennett 1806 married George Jones 1807, son of William Jones 1771 and Mary Williams where we came in. I won't detail the link but George Jones 1807 & Jane Bennett 1806 had a great grandaughter Violet Dorothy Florence Jones 19 Sep 1901 who married a Jonathon Marfell 1904.

Jim Ashton

Marriage at Weston Under Penyard - 14 December 1779

Thomas BENNETT - Batchelor
Residence: Ruardine in the County of Gloster
married
Jane COWLES, Spinster
Residence: Weston under Penyard in this County
by Licence

witnesses; T H MERRICK & Abiah HILL

Officiating Minster: Thomas Watkins (Rector)

1861
Jane Jones abt 1806 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Willam Bennett Jones abt 1836 Hope Mansell, Herefordshire, England Son Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
James Charles Jones abt 1838 Hope Mansell, Herefordshire, England Son Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Thomas Hennett abt 1781 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Uncle Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Elizabeth Matthews abt 1842 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Hope Mansell, Herefordshire
Joseph Stokes abt 1840 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Servant Hope Mansell, Herefordshire

1851
Timothy Bernett abt 1804 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Head Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Jane Bernett abt 1835 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Bernett abt 1781 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Uncle Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire
Hannah Davis abt 1794 Baurding, Gloucestershire, England Servant Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

1841 High Street
William Jones abt 1774 [OUT OF COUNTY] Mitchell Dean,Gloucestershire Farmer
Mary Ann Jones abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Evans abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
William Parry abt 1816 Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
John Green abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean,

next door to (witness in Mary Ann's marriage)

Timothy Bennett abt 1804 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire Malster ( Widow of Beata)
Thomas Bennett abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Bennett abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire

Possible

Year: 1780
Month: Sep
Day: 24
Parents_Surname: BENNETT
Child_Forenames: Thomas
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: J H BEESTON - minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 57
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

????

National Probate Calender - Death 1861

BENNETT Thomas - 18 January 1862

The Will with two Codicils of Thomas BENNETT late of the Parish of Hope Mansell in the County of Hereford Landowner and Coal Proprietor deceased who died 16 October 1861 at Hope Mansell aforesaid was proved at Hereford by the oaths of Francis Hamp ADAMS of the Town of Ross in the said County Banker and Cornelius BRAIN of the Quabbs House near Dryrook in the Forest of Dean in the County of Gloucester Coal Proprietor for the Executors.

Effects under £1,000

1841 Census Mitchell Dean

Timothy BENNETT - 37 Malster - born in County
Thomas BENNETT - 60 Gent - born in County
Jane BENNETT - 7 - ditto
Hannah DAVIES - 45 Ind
Ann BURFORD f/s

next door to (witness in Mary Ann's marriage)
Timothy Bennett abt 1804 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire Malster ( Widow of Beata)
Thomas Bennett abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Bennett abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1837
Month: Jul
Day: 5
Surname: BENNETT
Forenames: Beata
Residence: Mitcheldean
Age_at_death: 32
Officiating_Minister: George Cox Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 in 1/9
Page_No: 34
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

Year: 1834
Month: Jul
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: BENNETT
Child_Forenames: Jane
Fathers_Forenames: Timothy
Mothers_Forenames: Beata
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Mitchel Dean
Occupation: Maltster
Officiating_Minister: George Cox Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 62
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

Year: 1805
Month: Jun
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: HALE
Child_Forenames: Beata
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daug[hte]r of
Notes: Mother's name Elizh entered in the PR has been expanded to Elizabeth
Register_Reference: P220 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 29
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

possible wifes for Isaac
1757 HART Mary Baptism Aston Ingham
1751 HART Mary Baptism Aston Ingham

Year: 1777
Month: Jul
Day: 3
Grooms_Surname: WILLIAMS
Grooms_Forenames: Isaac
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Leonard Stanley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HART
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: 1777 Jun 15 22 29
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: John Beavan
Witness_2: William Mash
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: W. H. Baker rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AR90/5
Page_Number: 13
Parish_Chapel: Aston Ingham

1778 WILLIAMS Elizabeth Isaac Mary Aston Ingham
1780 WILLIAMS Mary Isaac Mary Aston Ingham
1781 WILLIAMS Nathaniel Isaac Mary Aston Ingham
1784 WILLIAMS John Isaac Mary Mitcheldean
1785 WILLIAMS Maria Isaac Mary Mitcheldean

Year: 1821
Month: Feb
Day: 27
Surname: WILLIAMS
Forenames: Isaac
Residence: Mitcheldean
Age_at_death: 73 [implied 1748]
Officiating_Minister: John Newport Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 220 in 1/9
Page_No: 12
Parish_Chapel: Mitcheldean

George SMITH - Bachelor
of the Parish of Mitcheldean in the City of Gloce

married

Jane HALE, Spinster of this Parish

by Banns (no parents names stated)

witnesses: Beata HALE - Tho(mas) PRICK (sic)

Christening : Jane BENNETT 20 July 1834, at Mitcheldean - parents Timothy & Beata

FOD records

Marriage at Micheldean, 17 September 1833

Timothy BENNETT - of this Parish
married
Beata HALE - of this Parish - by Licence

witnesses: Tho(ma)s BENNETT - Hope Mansell
Jane SMITH - Gloster (sic)

1841 High Street
William Jones abt 1774 [OUT OF COUNTY] Mitchell Dean,Gloucestershire Farmer
Mary Ann Jones abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Ann Evans abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
William Parry abt 1816 Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
John Green abt 1824 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean,

next door to (witness in Mary Ann's marriage)
Timothy Bennett abt 1804 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire Malster ( Widow of Beata)
Thomas Bennett abt 1781 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Bennett abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Mitchell Dean, Gloucestershire

Marriage at Mitcheldean - 13 September 1804 (by LICENCE) - which would possibly give more information i.e. age/occ/Parish - there are two examples of a Licence (from my x Grandparents) on the FOD site - under Documents & Articles - Misc. Documents - Marriages Bonds - one earlier than the other...

William JONES - Parish of Mitchel Dean
married
Mary WILLIAMS - Parish of Mitchel Dean

witnesses: Joseph MAYO and Maria WILLIAMS

There are two siblings of William JONES 1805 - christened at Mitcheldean

George - 4 October 1807
and
Mary Anne - 11 June 1820 (upwards of 10 years old, William (Currier) and Mary JONES

?

FOD records Marriage at Mitcheldean, 1842

Mary Ann JONES - father: William JONES (Farmer)
married
George CROOK

witnesses: Timothy BENNETT and Mary JONES

1851 Census, Newent
Black House

George CROOK - 38 - farm er of 130 acres, born Glos. Flaxley
Mary Ann CROOK - 41 (c1810) - born M Deene, Glos.
Maria CROOK - 5 - born Glos. Newent
George W CROOK - 1 - ditto
Margaret SMITH visitor unmarried age 20 born Newnham
Harry GREEN - visitor 27, born Hereford Aston Ingham
and a couple of Farm Servant

1851 Census, Herefordshire, Hope Mansell,
Upper End

George JONES - 43, farmer of 124 acres, born Gloucestershire, Mitcheldean
Jane JONES - wife - 45 born ditto
William Bennett JONES - son 15 - born Herefordshire, Hope Mansell
James Charles JONES - son - 13 - ditto
Es=+ 3 servants

There are 3 BENNETT JONES baptisms at Hope Mansell (FOD records) - not sure which generation/wife? BENNETT name comes from

William BENNETT JONES 1835
George William BENNETT JONES - 1874
Alfred William BENNET JONES - 1874
William BENNET JONES - FOD B.C. 1878

On the Gloucestershire Records Office - Genealogical Database - there is

1878 - William BENNETT JONES (Gender - Mother) Farmer, Ref: d2598/5/5 - non conformist

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1841 Census (Mitchell Dean - on Ancestry)

William JONES - 69 c 1772 Farmer, not born in County
Mary Ann JONES - 25 Housekeeper (born in County) - married George CROOK
Ann EVANS - 20 F/M
William PARRY - 25 M/S
John GREEN - 17 - M/S

It was this website that surprised me by advising Jones is the most common Forest surname, not my experience in my first 20 years from 62 onwards, as a Jones in Cinderford & at the RFDGS in Berry Hill, but I'm not denying the statistical facts as they've been proven by my own problems tracing my family tree these last few months. My son is William Jones, named after my father William Jones, named after his before him and so on ad infinitum. In our case they are Lydbrook/Ruardean WJ's which seems to be the hotbed area for Jones', unless of course you think it's Mitcheldean ??.

I don't think our paths will cross genetically but I'll keep a lookout and contact you if they appear to do so. Meanwhile keep smiling thro, good luck !