Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Adeline ALLEN 1836 -1890 Lydney

Adeline ALLEN 1836 -1890 Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:25:46 +0000

1841 Furnace ( looks like Viney Hill / Blakeney)
Eliza Allen abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emily Allen abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Adeline Allen abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1836
Month: Mar
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: ALLEN
Child_Forenames: Adeline
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Allaston Parish of Lydney
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: H.C.H.Hawkins Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 150
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

1851 Blakeney Woodside
John Wellington abt 1816 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Wellington abt 1816 Caldicote, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Wellington abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Wellington abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Wellington abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fredrick Wellington abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Louisa Wellington abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Wellington abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elen Wellington abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Wellington abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Nephew East Dean, Gloucestershire
Adaline Allen abt 1836 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Niece East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1861
Month: Nov
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: DREDGE
Grooms_Forenames: John Bassett
Grooms_Age: Of Full Age
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Westbury
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Dredge
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: ALLEN
Brides_Forenames: Adeline
Brides_Age: Of Full Age
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Westbury
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Allen
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: He signs She marks
Witness_1: Henry Grindon
Witness_2: Sarah Hallington [?]
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Christopher Jay Jones Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 141
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

1871 Chestnuts / Hangmans Hill area ( Popes Hill)
John Barrettdordg 72
Adeline Barrettdordg 38 Lydney
William Barrettdordg 4

Year: 1873
Month: Dec
Day: 6
Grooms_Surname: REED
Grooms_Forenames: Jasper
Grooms_Age: full age
Groom_Condition: Widower
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Popes Hill
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Reed (deceased)
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: DREDGE
Brides_Forenames: Adeline Barrett
Brides_Age: full age
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Popes Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Allen (deceased)
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of James Miles
Witness_2: Markof Sarah Wellington
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Barker Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 70
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

more on Jasper REED http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=25122

1881
Joseph Reed abt 1807 Churcham, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Adaline Reed abt 1836 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1890
Month: Dec
Day: 20
Surname: REED
Forenames: Adeline
Residence: [Not stated]
Age_at_death: 54
Officiating_Minister: Leonard Wilkinson Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/17
Page_No: 36
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

Emily ALLEN 1833 Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 08:00:31 +0000

Thank you for your help with my query about Emily Allen. Her placement with this family is a logical one as her own father was noted as a blacksmith on Emily's baptism record. I believe her mother and father had both passed away by the time of the 1851 Census(her father James at Allaston in 1836 - Burial Record ID 24977; her mother Eliza possibly at Churchant (?) in 1848. Was the Halford family noted in the census as residing in Allaston also?

Its just Lydney - theCensus notes point to the south west side of Lydney, including the Tin Mill housing and Lydney Basin.

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1861
James Jones abt 1833 Itton, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Emily Jones abt 1834 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Eliza Ann Jones abt 1858 Poolingrick, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire
George Jones abt 1860 Poolingrick, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire

Name: James Jones
Name: Emily Allen
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1856
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 27

1841 Furnace ( looks like Viney Hill / Blakeney)
Eliza Allen abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emily Allen abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Adeline Allen abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1836
Month: Jun
Day: 8
Surname: ALLEN
Forenames: James
Residence: Allaston Meen - Parish of Lydney
Age_at_death: 27
Officiating_Minister: H.C.H.Hawkins Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/11
Page_No: 96
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Ye ar: 1830
Month: Dec
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: ALLEN
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: ALLEN
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of John Thomas
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Anne Hughes
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H.C.H.Hawkins Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 52
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

The Churcham Burial in 1848 is a young person.

Did Eliza remarry after 1836 ?

Emily Allen in 1851 Census (reply)

fred52 — Fri, 28 Dec 2012 07:17:52 +0000

Thank you for your help with my query about Emily Allen. Her placement with this family is a logical one as her own father was noted as a blacksmith on Emily's baptism record. I believe her mother and father had both passed away by the time of the 1851 Census(her father James at Allaston in 1836 - Burial Record ID 24977; her mother Eliza possibly at Churchant (?) in 1848. Was the Halford family noted in the census as residing in Allaston also?

Emily Allen in 1851 Census (reply)

Paul Andrews — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 12:26:55 +0000

1851 England Census
HO107/2443; Folio: 557; Page: 4
Lydney

James Halford - Head - Mar - 52 - Blacksmith Master employing 2 men & 1 boy - Gloucestersh, Newent
Maria Halford - Wife - Mar - 50 - Gloucestersh, Clearwell
Thomas Halford - Son - U - 18 - Blacksmith - Gloucestersh, Aylburton
Henry Halford - Son - 7 - Scholar - Gloucestersh, Aylburton
Frederick Jaine - Lodger - U - 24 - Blacksmith - Herefordsh, Kembolton
Emily Allen - Servt - U - 17 - Servt - Gloucestersh, Lydney.

It appears she was a servant to James Halford's household.

Emily ALLEN 1833 in 1851 Census (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 10:51:25 +0000

I have narrowed my search for Emily Allen in the 1851 Census to find that she is listed as a servant aged 17 in the Parish of Lydney. Can anyone help with suggestions as to where she may have been employed? Thank you.

Servant is a pretty generic term, not always a live-in position at a large house :-(

Year: 1833
Month: Dec
Day: 6
Parents_Surname: ALLEN
Child_Forenames: Emily
Fathers_Forenames: James
Mothers_Forenames: Eliza
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Allaston - Parish of Lydney
Occupation: Blacksmith
Officiating_Minister: H.C.H.Hawkins Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Daughter of
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 134
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Emily Allen in 1851 Census (reply)

fred52 — Wed, 26 Dec 2012 04:11:15 +0000

I have narrowed my search for Emily Allen in the 1851 Census to find that she is listed as a servant aged 17 in the Parish of Lydney. Can anyone help with suggestions as to where she may have been employed? Thank you.

Adeline Barrett DREDGE nee ALLEN 1836 Blakeney / Lydney (reply)

fred52 — Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:38:00 +0000

Again thank you for expanding our knowledge of the Welsh connection of our family. We are truly thrilled to now have so much information. I'm sure there are more details to be found. Our search will continue to try and find details of our Kezia's time in service at the Royal Hotel in Bristol and further information on her siblings and their stories. Much appreciated.

Adeline Barrett DREDGE nee ALLEN 1836 Blakeney / Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 09:54:09 +0000

1851
John Wellington abt 1816 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Wellington abt 1816 Caldicote, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Wellington J abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Ann Wellington abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Wellington abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fredrick Wellington abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Louisa Wellington abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Wellington abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elen Wellington abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Wellington abt 1837 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Nephew East Dean, Gloucestershire
Adaline Allen abt 1836 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Niece East Dean, Gloucestershire

1871
John Barrettdordg 72
Adeline Barrettdordg 38
William Barrettdordg 4

Year: 1872
Month: Dec
Day: 6
Surname: DREDGE
Forenames: John Barrett
Residence: East Dean
Age_at_death: 72
Officiating_Minister: Chris[topher] Jay Jones Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/16
Page_No: 141
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

1881
Joseph Reed abt 1807 Churcham, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire ret Gardener
Adaline Reed abt 1836 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire

1891
Mary Ann Smith abt 1838 Redley, Westbury On Severn Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ada Smith abt 1883 Popis Hill, East Dean Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hubert Smith abt 1878 Popis Hill, East Dean Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jasper Reed abt 1811 Creurchden, Gloucestershire, England Father East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1892
Month: Feb
Day: 22
Surname: REED
Forenames: Jasper
Residence: Popes Hill
Age_at_death: 87
Officiating_Minister: Leonard Wilkinson Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/17
Page_No: 43
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

James JONES 1833 Itton (reply)

fred52 — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 07:47:02 +0000

A huge thank you for all the information so far Slowhands. Will take some time to go through all this and cross reference with what I already have. Looking very interesting I must say. Your help is much appreciated. Look forward to further revelations!

James JONES 1833 Itton (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 07:19:33 +0000

1851 Chepstow Davies Court
Jones 51 Widow Wolvesnewton
James Jones 18 Itton
Francis Harris 18

Possible :-
1841
Wm Jones abt 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire
Rebecca Jones abt 1803 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire
William Jones abt 1831 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire
Thos Jones abt 1833 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire
James Jones abt 1835 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire
John Morgan abt 1816 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire
Gee Hevel abt 1816 Monmouthshire, Wales Itton, Monmouthshire

but I think this rules out this family
1861
William Jones abt 1801 Penterry, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Shire Newton, Monmouthshire
Rebecca Jones abt 1804 Wolvesnewton, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife Shire Newton, Monmouthshire

Kezia JONES 1864 Blakeney / Chepstow (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:47:29 +0000

Year: 1809
Month: Jun
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: ALLEN
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Perry
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1]Son of [2]B[ase] C[hild]
Notes:
Register_Reference: P209 IN 1/2
Page_Number: 87
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Year: 1830
Month: Dec
Day: 18
Grooms_Surname: ALLEN
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this Parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: ALLEN
Brides_Forenames: Eliza
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this Parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Mark of John Thomas
Witness_2: Mark of Mary Anne Hughes
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H.C.H.Hawkins Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 52
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

1841 Old Furnace, Blakeney
Eliza Allen abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Emily Allen abt 1835 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Adeline Allen abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

1851
Emily Allen abt 1834 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Servant Lydney, Gloucestershire

"POOLMERICK, a hamlet in the parish of Chepstow, upper division of the hundred of Caldicott, county Monmouth, 1½ mile S.W. of Chepstow, and 11 miles S. of Monmouth. It is situated about 3 miles from the mouth of the river Wye. The principal seat is Poolmerick." Today known as its Welsh equivalent -Pwllmeyric

1861 Howells row
James Jones abt 1833 Itton, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Emily Jones abt 1834 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Eliza Ann Jones abt 1858 Poolingrick, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire
George Jones abt 1860 Poolingrick, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire

<><><> The birth of Kezia could be either of these, however I suspect Blakeney and hence the WoS registration.

Name: Kezia Jones
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 228

Name: Keziah Jones
Year of Registration: 1865
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 202

1871 The Back Chepstow
James Jones 36 Itton
Emily Jones 37 Lydney
Eliza A Jones 13 Mathern
George Jones 11 Mathern
James Jones 9 Mathern
Kezia Jones 7 Itton
Mary J Jones 5 Lydney
William Jones 3 Chepstow
Thomas Jones 1 Chepstow
Mary A Jones 6 Months Chepstow

1881 College Green, Bristol - Royal Hotel
Kezia Jones abt 1864 Blakney, Gloucestershire, England Servant Bristol St Augustine, Gloucestershire

http://www.marriott.co.uk/hotels/travel/brsry-bristol-marriott-royal-hotel/

1881 Nelson St
James Jones abt 1833 Itton, Monmouth, Wales Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire Labourer
Emily Jones abt 1834 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Mary Jones abt 1866 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire
William Jones abt 1868 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Thomas Jones abt 1870 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Henry Jones abt 1873 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Phillip Jones abt 1875 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire

1891 Richmond Parade ?
Emily Jones abt 1834 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire Widow
Thomas Jones abt 1870 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Henry Jones abt 1873 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Philip Jones abt 1875 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Ethel Warman abt 1887 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Granddaughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire

1901 Lime St ?
Emily Jones abt 1834 Tydney, Gloucestershire, England Head Newport, Monmouthshire
Henry Jones abt 1873 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Newport, Monmouthshire

James Jones and Emily Allen and family

fred52 — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 06:21:51 +0000

James and Emily were married in the Registration District of Chepstow during the September quarter of 1856 (info from Find My Past). Am seeking more information on their children, residence/s, occupation and if possible their parents details. Know of only one child (Kezia) born 1864 (deduced from her marriage certificate). Kezia emigrated to Queensland, Australia, as far as we know on her own, in the 1880's. Any help with this family will be most appreciated.