Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Alma TROTMAN 1861-1888

Alma TROTMAN 1861-1888 (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:50:07 +0000

It might be worth uncovering Alma's roots - she is the sort of age to have been William's first wife ...

Name: Alma Trotman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 27
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 164

Year: 1888
Month: May
Day: 26
Surname: TROTMAN
Forenames: Alma
Residence: Westbury
Age_at_death: 27
Officiating_Minister: Christopher Jay Jones Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P 354 IN 1/17
Page_No: 24
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

<><><><> she is not this Alma
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&id=19258

William Mark Trotman 1881 Census (reply)

sarah phelps — Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:36:44 +0000

So who did he marry between 1881 and 1890??????

Thank you everyone for all this information...Lots for me to go on.

Excellent !

William TROTMAN 1821 North Nibley (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:11:09 +0000

WILLIAM TROTMAN
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Event(s):
Birth: 13 OCT 1821
Christening: 13 DEC 1821 The Tabernacle Calvinistic Methodist, Wotton Under Edge, Gloucester, England
Death:
Burial:
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM TROTMAN
Mother: BETTEY
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C036421 1789 - 1837 0595451 RG4 395, 396 Film 6911913 Film
Sheet: 00

1851
William Trotman abt 1790 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Head North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Trotman abt 1790 Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England Wife North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Robert Trotman abt 1830 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Son North Nibley, Gloucestershire

1841
William Trotman abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Trotman abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Richard Trotman abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England North Nibley, Gloucestershire
William Trotman abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Robert Trotman abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England North Nibley, Gloucestershire
Mary Gillings abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England North Nibley,

WILLIAM TROTMAN
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH BAKER
Marriage: 27 DEC 1808 North Nibley, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M030551 1754 - 1882 0855695 Film 6911777 Film
Sheet: 00

<><><><><> long shot ?

ELIZABETH BAKER
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 21 NOV 1790 Rodmarton, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHD BAKER
Mother: SARAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C054941 1578 - 1813 0417158 Film 6911986 Film
Sheet: 00

William Mark TROTMAN Jnr 1898 -1964 Dursley / Ross (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:15 +0000

Name: William Mark Trotman
Year of Registration: 1898
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Dursley
County: Gloucestershire, Wiltshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 219

1901
William Mark Trotman abt 1867 Gloucestershire, England Head Tretire With Michaelchurch, Herefordshire
Alice Ellender Trotman abt 1872 Gloucestershire, England Wife Tretire With Michaelchurch, Herefordshire
Alice Ellender Trotman abt 1894 Gloucestershire, England Daughter Tretire With Michaelchurch, Herefordshire
William Mark Trotman abt 1899 Gloucestershire, England Son Tretire With Michaelchurch, Herefordshire

1911
TROTMAN WILLIAM M 1869 42 Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN ALICE F 1875 36 Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN ALFRED M 1902 9 Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN ALICE F 1894 17 Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN EDITH F 1910 5 MONTH Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN ELLEN F 1907 4 Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN FLORENCE F 1905 6 Ross Herefordshire
TROTMAN WILLIAM M 1899 12 Ross Herefordshire

Name: William M Trotman
Spouse : Florence E Hancox
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1924
Registration district: Ross
Registration county (inferred): Herefordshire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 1128

Doreen O Trotman Jan Feb Mar 1922 Ross Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Pearce W Trotman Apr May Jun 1924 Ross Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Douglas F Trotman Jul Aug Sep 1925 Ross Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Edith M Trotman Jul Aug Sep 1927 Ross Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Denis G Trotman Jan Feb Mar 1929 Ross Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire
Doris J Trotman Apr May Jun 1930 Ross Gloucestershire, Shropshire, Herefordshire

Name: William M Trotman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1964
Age at death (estimated): 66
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 9a
Page: 78

Name: Florence Emily Trotman
Birth Date: 3 Jun 1903
Death Registration Month/Year: 1979
Registration district: Hereford
Inferred County: Hereford & Worcester
Volume: 29
Page: 0230

William Mark Trotman 1881 Census (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:30:57 +0000

1881 Census, Westbury on Severn
Walmore? Road

John W WATKINS - married, 31, Teazel Grower, born Eastington

Mary J WATKINS - 28, born Down Hadley
(nee TROTMAN - as John W WATKINS - birth 1877, Glos. Frampton - on Gloucesteshire BDM)

John W WATKINS - son - 4, born Eastington

William M TROTMAN - unmarried, 19 - Teazel Worker, born Cheltenham

On the 1891 census, William age 29 ( Widr) is living at Elmstone Hardwicke with his father William age 69 (Widr)

William TROTMAN/Charlotte LYES (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:11:31 +0000

Gloucestershire BDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

William TROTMAN married Charlotte LYES, Glos - Down Hatherley, St Mary & Corpus Christie 1848

On the Gloucestershire Baptism Index, Charlotte was christened 24 June 1827, at the above Church, parents William (labourer) & Ann

siblings :

Sarah LYES - 14 January 1816
Hannah - 23 August 1818
Abraham - 28 June 1821
Emanuel - 14 November 1824

William Mark TROTMAN born 1862 in Gloucestershire (reply)

shepway — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:09:41 +0000

1851 Census from GFHS transcription

Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1961 0102 005 Down Hatherley TROTMAN William HD M 29 Ag.Lab. GLS North Nibley
1961 0102 005 Down Hatherley TROTMAN Charlotte WI M 23 - GLS Down Hatherley
1961 0102 005 Down Hatherley TROTMAN Sarah Ann DA - 10M - GLS Wotton under edge

Marriage from Gloucestershire BMD Index at http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx

Groom: TROTMAN William
Bride: LYES Charlotte
Place of Marriage: Down Hatherley St Mary and Corpus Christi
Year: 1848

From FreeBMD
Marriages Sep 1848
LYES Charlotte Gloster 11 397
TROTMAN William Gloster 11 397

Parents marriage from IGI:
WILLIAM TROTMAN
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH BAKER Family
Marriage:
27 DEC 1808 North Nibley, Gloucester, England

1851 Census:
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1958 0083 058 Warrend TROTMAN William HD M 61 Ag Labourer GLS North Nibley
1958 0083 058 Warrend TROTMAN Elizabeth WI M 61 - WIL Malmesbury
1958 0083 058 Warrend TROTMAN Robert SO U 21 Ag Lab GLS North Nibley

Charlotte's birth from IGI:
CHARLOTTE LYES Pedigree
Event(s):
Birth:
29 MAY 1827 Hatherley Court, Gloucester, England
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM LYES Family
Mother: ANN

1851 Census:
Piece Folio SchNo Town Surname Forename Relatn Marr Age Occupation County Place
1961 0101 002 Down Hatherley LYES William HD M 62 Ag.Lab. GLS Newent
1961 0101 002 Down Hatherley LYES Ann WI M 63 Pauper. Ag.Lab. GLS Abingall [Abenhall]

12 December 1814 William LYES married Ann ROBBINS at Down Hatherley

Baptism from this website:
Year: 1789
Month: Aug
Day: 23
Parents_Surname: LYES
Child_Forenames: William
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Anne
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: J Foley Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 35
Parish_Chapel: Newent

Best wishes
Mike

William Mark TROTMAN born 1862 in Gloucestershire (reply)

sarah phelps — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 22:07:02 +0000

Many thanks

TROTMAN - North Nibley (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:44:32 +0000

On the 1871 Census, William says he was born in North Nibley, Charlotte in Down Hatherley, William M 9, in Cheltenham and Alfred age 4 - Longney

1851 Census, Glos. Down Hatherley

William TROTMAN - 29 - born North Nibley, Glos
Charlotte - age 23 - born Down Hatherley
Sarah - 10 weeks/months - born Wootton-Under-Edge

(line through ages on census return)

1841 Census, Glos. North Nibley

Crowell Brook

TROTMAN

William - 50 - Ag Lab
Elizabeth - 50
Richard - Ag Lab - 20
William - 20
Robert - 10
Mary Gillings - 1

some of these siblings baptisms are on the FOD records (North Nibley)

? Gloucestershire Marriage Index, does have a marriage at North Nibley 27 December 1808, of William TROTMAN and Elizabeth BAKER - by Banns

1851 Census, Glos. North Nibley
Warrend?

TROTMAN

Richard - 32, born North Nibley
Zipporah - wife - born ditto
Maria - 7 - born Worcestershire, Kidderminster
Mark - 6 months, born Glos. North Nibley

next door but one

Warrend

William TROTMAN - 61 - born North Nibley
Elizabeth - 61 - born Wiltshire, Malmesbury
Robert - 21 - born Glos. North Nibley

William Mark TROTMAN born 1862 in Gloucestershire (reply)

sarah phelps — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:20:23 +0000

thanks slowhands. I did look on here and couldn't find it but you obviously have lots of resources at your finger tips... Would you have any information on William and Charlotte?

William Mark TROTMAN 1862 -1922 Gloucestershire (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:00:20 +0000

I would love to get more information on him

Name: William Trotman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1922
Age at death (estimated): 61 [inferred 1861]
Registration district: Ross
Inferred County: Herefordshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 776

Name: William Mark Trotman
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 391

1871 Longney
William Trotman 50 North Nibley
Charlotte Trotman 43 Down hatherley
William M Trotman 9 Cheltenham
Alfred Trotman 4 Longney "idiot from birth"

1861
William Trotman abt 1821 North Nibley, Gloucestershire, England Head Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Charlotte Trotman abt 1828 Down Hatherley, Gloucestershire, England Wife Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Trotman abt 1850 Wotton Under Edge, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Mary J Trotman abt 1853 Down Hatherley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Selina Trotman abt 1855 Down Hatherley, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Isabella Trotman abt 1859 Boddington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Cheltenham, Gloucestershire
Alinda Townsend abt 1857 Norton, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

Name: William Mark Trotman
Name :Alice Ellender Marston
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 577

William Mark Trotman born roughly 1865 in Gloucestershire

sarah phelps — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:53:24 +0000

I am having trouble finding the birth of the above ancestor. I have his marriage certificate to an Alice Ellender Marston on December 7th 1892 which states he was already a widower and was aged 27 and living in Norton with his father a william trotman. I do not have any other details regarding his family. In 1901 he was living with wife and two children, boy and girl both named after each parent.

I believe he was alive in 1922 and living in Ross-On-Wye, HFDS.

I would love to get more information on him to finish this line of my ancestors and complete my tree.

thank you in advance for any help you may offer

Sarah