Forest of Dean FHT Forum - John ROBERTS 1842 - 1928 Woolaston Salmon Fisherman

John ROBERTS 1842 - 1928 Woolaston Salmon Fisherman (reply)

rosie — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 13:29:43 +0000

HI
Just me, that had a funny five minutes.Of course you were just replying with some information. I think I got maybe abit excited that I might have come across some-one else researching the same ancestors!!! There must be somewhere......

Thank you again.
R

John ROBERTS 1842 - 1928 Woolaston Salmon Fisherman (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:15:42 +0000

HI
Thank you for replying. A little confused? Are you related to JOn or Harriett Roberts (nee Davis)?
John Roberts would have been my great grandfather.
\thank you again

I'm not related - why are you confused ?

Just trying to fathom out which John ROBERTS was yours and help find where he is buried for you

John ROBERTS 1842 - 1928 Woolaston Salmon Fisherman (reply)

rosie — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 10:01:49 +0000

HI
Thank you for replying. A little confused? Are you related to JOn or Harriett Roberts (nee Davis)?
John Roberts would have been my great grandfather.
\thank you again

John ROBERTS 1842 - 1928 Woolaston Salmon Fisherman (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 05:58:14 +0000

Hi
Anyone else related to John Roberts or Harriet Roberts (nee Davis) from Woolaston?
Would be lovely to know if there was.

Year: 1928
Month: Feb
Day: 1
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: John
Residence: 15 Bridge R[oa]d Llandaff North
Age_at_death: 85 years
Officiating_Minister: Rev[eren]d J E Brett
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: [1]Fisherman [2]M[ale] [3][place of burial] Plot G [number of grave space] 73 [4][Consecrated ground] Yes [5]Llandaff North
Notes:
Register_Reference: F
Page_No: 8
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow Municipal Cemetery

Year: 1921
Month: Feb
Day: 19
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Harriett
Residence: 26 Lower Church S[tree]t Chepstow
Age_at_death: 78 years
Officiating_Minister: Rev[eren]d J E Brett
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda: [1]Wife of John Roberts Fisherman [2]F[emale] [3][place of burial] Plot G [number of grave space] 73 [4][Unconsecrated ground] Yes
Notes:
Register_Reference: E
Page_No: 13
Parish_Chapel: Chepstow Municipal Cemetery

1911 26 Tower Church St Chepstow Monmouthshire
John Roberts 67 Salmon Fisherman
Harriet Roberts 68
Harriet Harrison 10

1901
John Roberts abt 1844 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire Fisherman
Harriet Roberts abt 1843 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
John Roberts abt 1873 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Sidney G Roberts abt 1882 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Ada M Roberts abt 1883 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire

1891
John Roberts abt 1843 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Harriet Roberts abt 1842 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
William I Roberts abt 1869 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
John Roberts abt 1873 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Charlotte Roberts abt 1880 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Sidney G Roberts abt 1882 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Ada M Roberts abt 1883 Chepstow, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire

1881
John Roberts abt 1844 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Harriet Roberts abt 1843 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Chepstow, Monmouthshire
William J. Roberts abt 1869 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Curdonia A. Roberts abt 1871 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire
John Roberts abt 1873 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Son Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Harriet E. Roberts abt 1875 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire
Charlotte Roberts abt 1880 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Daughter Chepstow, Monmouthshire

1871 Beryl
John Roberts abt 1844 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Able Seaman (Seaman) Vessels, Monmouthshire

1861
John Roberts abt 1844 Worllastine, Gloucestershire, England Crime Prisn North Hamlet, Gloucestershire

1851 Woolaston
Charlotte Robert 40 Lydney
Mary Ann Robert 10
John Robert 8
Jabez Robert 5
Bertha Robert 4

Year: 1842
Month: Dec
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Charlotte
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C Bryan
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 95
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

1841
William Roberts abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Charlete Roberts abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Hannah Roberts abt 1830 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Charlote Roberts abt 1832 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
George Roberts abt 1834 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Roberts abt 1837 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Mary Anne Roberts abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire
Emily Roberts abt 1838 Gloucestershire, England Wollastone, Gloucestershire

Year: 1829
Month: Dec
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: POWELL
Brides_Forenames: Charlotte
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Francis Williams
Witness_2: Mark of Harriet Haynes
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Bryan rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

ROBERTS -churchyards Woolaston/Lydney (reply)

peteressex — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 05:38:44 +0000

For location of graves at St Mary's Lydney, have a look at www.gfhs.org.uk/products.htm. For a fiver you get the memorial inscriptions. If my memory is right, I also got a CD and map of the grave locations from GFHS (Gloucestershire Family History Society) who are right next door to the county archives in Alvin Street, Gloucester. If I were you, I wouldn't go to the churchyard beforehand, as part of it has been designated a conservation area which is code for "You'll never find what you're looking for unless you hack your way in." I found out where my family's memorial was but couldn't get to read it until two relatives who still live in Lydney had put in a great deal of labour.

ROBERTS -churchyards Woolaston/Lydney (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 16 Jul 2012 03:18:30 +0000

HI
If I want to find my ancestors graves where do I start. I am looking for any Roberts relatives from Woolaston/Lydney? My grandfather was a fisherman. It would be also interesting to see if anyone else is trying to locate the Roberts family?
What church yards I go to and also where could I find this information out?
Thanks

There are 21 ROBERTS burials in Woolaston listed in the transcriptions section, and 32 Lydney burials.

Roberts -churchyards woolaston/Lydney (reply)

rosie — Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:16:40 +0000

HI
If I want to find my ancestors graves where do I start. I am looking for any Roberts relatives from Woolaston/Lydney? My grandfather was a fisherman. It would be also interesting to see if anyone else is trying to locate the Roberts family?
What church yards I go to and also where could I find this information out?
Thanks

ROBERTS Woolaston (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 23:50:24 +0000

Hi again Rosie, Happy New Year to you and yours.
As much as I sincerely hope you do find some more Roberts' via this forum I'm beginning to doubt you will. That said have you tried actively searching for & emailing other Roberts forum users, see the attached list of Roberts surname researchers, hopefully some of them still have active direct email addresses.

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/surnames/php/do_search.php?page=1&surname=roberts

I don't know where you're writing from, but have you tried alternative methods which may be more likely to succeed ?. I suggest studying the local Phone directories (although sadly not as useful these days as they used to be with so many not using BT), they should be available thro most UK libraries. Also how about writing open letters or placing adverts within the local FoD newspapers, probably the Lydney ones ?
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=17318)?.

I hope this helps and meanwhile good luck !
(No doubt this will prompt a flood of Roberts' posts here, I do hope so)

ROBERTS Woolaston (reply)

rosie — Sat, 07 Jan 2012 21:43:55 +0000

Hi
Anyone else related to John Roberts or Harriet Roberts (nee Davis) from Woolaston?
Would be lovely to know if there was.

watermen/fishermen- John Roberts (reply)

rosie — Sat, 15 Oct 2011 12:48:37 +0000

Is there anyone that knows anything about the watermen/fishermen that came from woolaston/Lydney? Also anyone related to John ROBERTS BORN IN WOOLASTON

Woolaston Photos (reply)

rosie — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:41:11 +0000

Thank you Jeff

Rosemary

Woolaston Photos (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 15:29:31 +0000

The Forest Prints website carries some nice old photos, the site is searchable.
http://www.forestprints.co.uk/woolaston.htm

Woolaston Waterman: Severn OR Wye ? (reply)

rosie — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:57:47 +0000

Hi
never thought about that so will research further.
Thank you

Woolaston Waterman: Severn OR Wye ? (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:54:48 +0000

One of my "stock" reference sites is the British History site which is easily searched.
Entering "Woolaston" and "watermen" gives the following hit, if you track down the extensive texts the search "hits" are highlighted green.
Interestingly, perhaps, until now I'd always assumed we were discussing Severn watermn, with Woolaston village being on said river.
HOWEVER I now see that during the mid 1800s, as we're discussing, Woolaston PARISH was extended to include parts of the lower Wye at Brockweir etc.

Do you know whether your John Roberts is actually in Woolaston aka Severn, or could he be a Wye waterman ??.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=23257&strquery=woolaston watermen

John Roberts Waterman (reply)

rosie — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:53:11 +0000

Thank you

John Roberts Waterman (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:40:56 +0000

Hi again Rosie,
as suggested before, have you used the search facilities on this site ?.
If not go to the Home Page and the "search" icon is at the bottom of the lefthand menu, this searches the whole site, forum, photos etc.

Entering "watermen" gives a few hits that may be of interest
eg http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=21922
is a particularly interesting thread.

Similarly "fisherman" eg gives
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/blakeney/pages/page_18.html

Also "fishermen" gives
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/gallery/blakeney/pages/page_18.html

I recall you're looking at Woolaston area.
Suggest searching the site for Woolaston too,
eg http://www.forest-of-dean.net/search_engine/search_photos_results_2.php?q=woolaston&...

Hope this helps a little.

John Roberts Waterman (reply)

rosie — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:13:52 +0000

Has anyone gor any information about watermen/fishermen pictures about this occupation during the 1800/1900 century. Or is there any books about this.
Thanks

John Roberts (reply)

rosie — Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:56:32 +0000

Hi jeff
Thank you for your information. greatly received. As I have only just started my fathers side and didn't know much about my grandfather it is really good to go back further. It would be amazing to come across relatives connected. looking at the brothers and sisters maybe there are some distant relatives alive?
Thank you againie

Ros

John Roberts (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:24:05 +0000

Hi Rosie,
welcome to this great forum and website. The database of photos, Parish Records etc is easily searchable free-of-charge, heres a start.
You don't give dates which would help, but clciking on the Parish Records blue button at top of page allows you to search the PRs, firstly input "John Roberts".
This gives 546 individual Records across the FoD area !!
Now input "Woolaston" as the Parish, presumably; gives just 3 PRs, as follows:

I guess this MAY be your grandfather ?

Record_ID: 74340
Entry_Number: 759
Year: 1842
Month: Dec
Day: 4
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Charlotte
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: C Bryan
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son of
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 95
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: R163

From this can search for parents William & Charlotte, gives:

Record_ID: 19664
Entry_Number: 73
Year: 1829
Month: Dec
Day: 5
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: POWELL
Brides_Forenames: Charlotte
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Francis Williams
Witness_2: Mark of Harriet Haynes
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Charles Bryan rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex_Groom: R163
Soundex_Bride: P400

Sadly no conformation or otherwise wrt their occupations ?.

Now searching "William Roberts", there are 5 PRs on the site within Woolaston, although of course they may have moved to other parishes.
This may be the same William:

Record_ID: 49618
Entry_Number: 537
Year: 1848
Month: Jun
Day: 18
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: William
Residence: Woolaston
Age_at_death: 52 years
Officiating_Minister: A K Smith Offic Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/9
Page_No: 68
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: R163

And this is Charlotte:

Record_ID: 195226
Entry_Number:
Year: 1804
Month: Jan
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: POWELL
Child_Forenames: Charlotte
Fathers_Forenames: Philip
Mothers_Forenames: Jane
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: T Lewis B. A. Curate
Event: Baptisms
Memoranda: daughter
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 21
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: P400

This is probably the same Charlotte, recorded ages are often "confused":

Record_ID: 49960
Entry_Number: 79
Year: 1868
Month: Aug
Day: 2
Surname: ROBERTS
Forenames: Charlotte
Residence: Chepstow
Age_at_death: 56
Officiating_Minister: G Davis offg minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/18
Page_No: 10
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: R163

Using the Advanced Search can find Baptisms for the whole family, you can search individual Baptism, Marriage & Burial Records for them all:

ID, DATE, BAPTISED CHILD, PARENTS, RESIDENCE, OCCUPATION, PARISH
74047 1831 ROBERTS Hannah, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
74089 1832 ROBERTS Charlotte, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
74125 1834 ROBERTS George, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
74180 1837 ROBERTS Eliza, William & Charlotte, Woolaston Wood, Labourer, Woolaston
74236 1839 ROBERTS Mary Anne, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
74297 1841 ROBERTS Emma, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
74340 1842 ROBERTS John, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
67675 1844 ROBERTS Jacob, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston
67747 1847 ROBERTS Bertha, William & Charlotte, Woolaston, Labourer, Woolaston

The other 2 "John Roberts" PRs mentioned earlier may well be their family forebears:

Record_ID: 245125
Entry_Number: 208
Year: 1713
Month: Jun
Day: 16
Parents_Surname: ROBERTS
Child_Forenames: John
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Robert Griffith Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: son
Notes: in Latin son Johanne father Johannis
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 11
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex: R163

And t'other is his parents:

Record_ID: 52147
Entry_Number: 46
Year: 1712
Month: May
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: ROBERTS
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: JUSTICE
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: same parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns:
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark:
Witness_1:
Witness_2:
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Robert Griffith Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: the same parish [literal translation of Latin]
Notes: In Latin Johannes
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 37
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston
Soundex_Groom: R163
Soundex_Bride: J232

As you can see there's lots of info on the site, it just needs some detectivework.
Hope this helps you get start and good luck.

Happy Hunting !

John Roberts

rosie — Wed, 21 Sep 2011 22:44:01 +0000

Is there any information about watermen In Woolaston in the 1800 -1900's? and any information about my great grandfather John Roberts