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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re very welcome, we are all always pleased to help-out on this friendly forum.</p>
<p>Re the Advanced search feature, this is a really helpful feature and very flexible, I do recommend any newer users &quot;play around&quot; with it and find just how useful it can be, especially when researching commonly-occurring names. <br />
For example, as your family appear to be local to the Homend part of Ledbury, I&#039;ve re-searched the Burial PRs using Advanced search, and only inputting the words &quot;Morgan&quot; and &quot;Homend&quot; into the Surname and Residence search boxes. This gave a table of just 12 Burial records. The headings of each column in the table are Blue hyperlinks, so clicking any heading will change the way the table is displayed/ordered.  Clicking &quot;Year&quot; will make it display in chronological order, thus making it easier to interprete, as below.</p>
<p>The following are the Burial PRs which I suggest are PROBABLY related to your family, so need further research (marriages?, Census&#039; etc); I&#039;m sure some of them will relate to the earlier Baptisms I listed, or give clues as to earlier generations of the family.</p>
<p>Record ID Year Month Day Surname Forenames Residence Age at death Parish Chapel <br />
195835 1826 Mar 27 MORGAN illegible David   Homend 12 Ledbury <br />
195888 1826 Sep 5 MORGAN David   Homend 34 Ledbury <br />
195931 1827 Apr 13 MORGAN Thomas   Homend 48 Ledbury <br />
196433 1834 Jan 19 MORGAN Edward   Homend 41 Ledbury <br />
196495 1834 Sep 8 MORGAN Esther   Homend 66 Ledbury <br />
207301 1837 Apr 2 MORGAN Phebe   Homend 34 Ledbury <br />
207748 1841 Nov 21 MORGAN James   Homend 9 Ledbury <br />
208642 1852 Sep 8 MORGAN John Sampson   Homend 1 Ledbury <br />
184232 1871 Jan 6 MORGAN Sarah   Homend Ledbury 97 Ledbury <br />
220389 1886 Jun 7 MORGAN Ernest Edward   Homend infant Ledbury</p>
<p>The same approach can be sued to search this site&#039;s Marriage PRs, again using surname &quot;Morgan&quot; and residence &quot;Homend&quot; gives these PRs.  </p>
<p>Year Grooms_Surname Grooms_Forenames Grooms_Residence Brides_Surname Brides_Forenames Brides_Residence Parish_Chapel<br />
1842 MORGAN Thomas Homend TAYLOR Sarah Homend Ledbury</p>
<p>and,</p>
<p>Year Grooms_Surname Grooms_Forenames Grooms_Residence Brides_Surname Brides_Forenames Brides_Residence Parish_Chapel<br />
1841 BROOKES George Fleetwood Homend MORGAN Ann Homend Ledbury</p>
<p>The full PRs gives far more detail, and suggests the two maybe father and daughter;</p>
<p>Record_ID 58524<br />
Entry_Number 117<br />
Year 1842<br />
Month Mar<br />
Day 30<br />
Grooms_Surname MORGAN<br />
Grooms_Forenames Thomas<br />
Grooms_Age Of full age<br />
Groom_Condition Widower<br />
Grooms_Occupation Basket maker<br />
Grooms_Residence Homend<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname [not stated]<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames [not stated]<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation [not stated]<br />
Brides_Surname TAYLOR<br />
Brides_Forenames Sarah<br />
Brides_Age Of full age<br />
Brides_Condition Widow<br />
Brides_Occupation <br />
Brides_Residence Homend<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname [not stated]<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames [not stated]<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation [not stated]<br />
Licence_or_Banns Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns <br />
Signature_or_Mark He signs she marks<br />
Witness_1 Thomas Bowkett<br />
Witness_2 Mary Williams<br />
Other_Witnesses <br />
Officiating_Minister W Servante Off[iciatin] Minister<br />
Event Marriage<br />
Memoranda <br />
Notes <br />
Register_Reference BO92/19<br />
Page_Number 59<br />
Parish_Chapel Ledbury<br />
Soundex_Groom M625<br />
Soundex_Bride T460</p>
<p><br />
or in full;</p>
<p>Record_ID 58507<br />
Entry_Number 100<br />
Year 1841<br />
Month Aug<br />
Day 15<br />
Grooms_Surname BROOKES<br />
Grooms_Forenames George Fleetwood<br />
Grooms_Age Of full age<br />
Groom_Condition Widower<br />
Grooms_Occupation Carpenter<br />
Grooms_Residence Homend<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname Brookes<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames Joseph<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation Ostler<br />
Brides_Surname MORGAN<br />
Brides_Forenames Ann<br />
Brides_Age Of full age<br />
Brides_Condition Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation <br />
Brides_Residence Homend<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname Morgan<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames Thomas<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation Basket Maker<br />
Licence_or_Banns Licence<br />
Date_of_Banns <br />
Signature_or_Mark Both sign<br />
Witness_1 Thomas Morgan<br />
Witness_2 Elizabeth Hill<br />
Other_Witnesses <br />
Officiating_Minister James Watts Vicar<br />
Event Marriage<br />
Memoranda <br />
Notes <br />
Register_Reference BO92/19<br />
Page_Number 50<br />
Parish_Chapel Ledbury<br />
Soundex_Groom B622<br />
Soundex_Bride M625</p>
<p>Luckily the two occurred just before the 1841 Census was taken, this may give other members of the family.</p>
<p>Eg, could this be our Thomas, and there&#039;s a Harriet too... ???</p>
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1841 Homend Street, Ledbury, Herefordshire.</p>
<p>Given Name  Surname  Age  Estimated Birth Year  Gender  Birth City  Birth County  Birth Country<br />
Thomas  Morgan  50  1791  Male   Labourer Herefordshire  England<br />
Harriett  Morgan  11  1830  Female   Herefordshire  England<br />
James  Morgan  8  1833  Male   Herefordshire  England<br />
Mary  Morgan  6  1835  Female   Herefordshire  England</p>
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Hoping this helps a little more, good luck !</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou - this is all very helpful.  I will continue to check PR as Id missed many of these sibings when trying to research.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have traced a George Morgan, born Ledbury 1821 to David and Sarah Morgan.<br />
However I have no record of where David was born and Sarah&#039;s Maiden name etc.  Any chance of a lookup please? Or some knowledge of Morgans in Ledbury? Im presuming as they arent far from the Welsh border that they may have originated from over there with a name like Morgan.<br />
Thanks</p>
</blockquote><p>Hi and welcome to the forum. Have you searched this site&#039;s PRs ?. </p>
<p>Here&#039;s George&#039;s baptism PR in full;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 293616<br />
Entry_Number: 943<br />
Year: 1822<br />
Month: Jan<br />
Day: 27<br />
Parents_Surname: MORGAN<br />
Child_Forenames: George<br />
Fathers_Forenames: David<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Wellington Division<br />
Occupation: Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: James Watts Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: Son of<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/8<br />
Page_Number: 118<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p>Using Advanced Search can find all Baptisms to &quot;David&quot; and &quot;Sarah Morgan&quot;, these all look to be good fits for one (our) family;</p>
<p>Year Surname Child Forenames Parents Forenames Mothers Surname Residence Occupation Parish Chapel<br />
1811 MORGAN James, David Sarah       Dymock<br />
1812 MORGAN Rosanna, David Sarah       Dymock<br />
1816 MORGAN David, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1817 MORGAN David, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1819 MORGAN Thomas, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1820 MORGAN Matthew, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1822 MORGAN George, David Sarah   Wellington Division Labourer Ledbury<br />
1823 MORGAN Harriet, David Sarah   Homend Labourer Ledbury<br />
1825 MORGAN Sarah, David Sarah   Homend Labourer Ledbury</p>
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I&#039;ve also used the Advanced search looking for any marriages of a Morgan with father David, there are only five in the whole PR database, none in the Ledbury/Dymock area and none are our family.  Seems odd !...<br />
Similarly I don&#039;t think there are any Morgan marriages with mother Sarah as a witness, but needs rechecking to be sure.<br />
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<p>This may be George&#039;s brother&#039;s burial, right age and address.  I found this PR by accident while searching his father, I recommend you search the PRs for the other siblings, burials and marriages, may find clues as to parents David &amp; Sarah&#039;s background eg their own siblings may have been witnesses, etc.</p>
<p>Record_ID: 195835<br />
Entry_Number: 937<br />
Year: 1826<br />
Month: Mar<br />
Day: 27<br />
Surname: MORGAN<br />
Forenames: illegible David<br />
Residence: Homend<br />
Age_at_death: 12<br />
Officiating_Minister: J. A. Montgomery Clerk<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/35<br />
Page_No: 118<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p>Looks like George&#039;s father died young, perhaps explaining my inability to find him on the 1841 Census;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 195888<br />
Entry_Number: 990<br />
Year: 1826<br />
Month: Sep<br />
Day: 5<br />
Surname: MORGAN<br />
Forenames: David<br />
Residence: Homend<br />
Age_at_death: 34<br />
Officiating_Minister: J. A. Montgomery Clerk<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/35<br />
Page_No: 124<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p><br />
In fact I&#039;ve struggling to find any of the family in the 1841 Census !...</p>
<p><br />
Cannot be certain as we&#039;re dealing with common names, but I think this may well be mother Sarah&#039;s Burial, or possibly her mother ?, still in Homend Ledbury. </p>
<p>Record_ID: 184232<br />
Entry_Number: 453<br />
Year: 1871<br />
Month: Jan<br />
Day: 6<br />
Surname: MORGAN<br />
Forenames: Sarah<br />
Residence: Homend Ledbury<br />
Age_at_death: 97<br />
Officiating_Minister: F. Salter Stooke<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/37<br />
Page_No: 57<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p>CONCLUSION:  <br />
Not sure where to go from here, given my sadly limited available time. I&#039;ve tried searching the Census&#039;s for parent&#039;s David and Sarah without any real luck at all, except to prove that there are an awful lot of Morgans of this name and approx age in the Glos/Herefordshire area, but which are ours ?. If indeed they lived until 1841 ?.  Similarly no definite luck searching for daughter Harriet (I thought this might be a rarer name, wrong !).</p>
<p>???</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a marriage between David Morgan and Sarah Morgan at Hereford St. NIcholas on 9 April 1811.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have traced a George Morgan, born Ledbury 1821 to David and Sarah Morgan.<br />
However I have no record of where David was born and Sarah&#039;s Maiden name etc.  Any chance of a lookup please? Or some knowledge of Morgans in Ledbury? Im presuming as they arent far from the Welsh border that they may have originated from over there with a name like Morgan.<br />
Thanks</p>
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