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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed Peter, looking forward to hopefully learning more.</p>
<p>By the way, like you I tried to glean more info from the various old maps. Typical of my luck yet again I found the pub is right on the join between the largest scale maps I looked at, so needed little more effort, however this helped me find exactly which of two neighbouring buildings was the Traveller&#039;s Rest. Unfortunately these largest scale maps don&#039;t offer any more info than the others.<br />
What is clear that as far as the Ordnance Survey was concerned, the building wasn&#039;t considered worthy of a name or description prior to 1900. </p>
<p>Largest scale map, first edition surveyed c1878, just shows the building but no more clues; see extreme bottom left corner.<br />
<a href="https://maps.nls.uk/view/109726249">https://maps.nls.uk/view/109726249</a></p>
<p>Different (smaller) scale but essentially the same map, first edition also surveyed c1878; see dead centre.<br />
<a href="https://maps.nls.uk/view/101453649">https://maps.nls.uk/view/101453649</a></p>
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<p>Here are the next editions of both these series of maps, both revised c1900; now the establishment is given it&#039;s current name, and an official key ident, BH for Beerhouse. (The alternative key ident used by the O.S. is PH for Public House. There was no O.S. identifier for &quot;Inn&quot;.</p>
<p>Larger scale, second edition, see bottom left corner again; <br />
<a href="https://maps.nls.uk/view/109726252">https://maps.nls.uk/view/109726252</a></p>
<p>and smaller scale, see dead centre again;<br />
<a href="https://maps.nls.uk/view/101453646">https://maps.nls.uk/view/101453646</a></p>
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<p>The first O.S. maps from c1830 wern&#039;t such a large scale as the above, hence not so highly detailed and not showing individual buildings, so no more help to us - especially as Stowe Green is once again on the join lines and partially obscured.<br />
eg see extreme top edge of this map, abt middle of left-hand page.<br />
<a href="http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/sheet/first_edition/sheet35">http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/maps/sheet/first_edition/sheet35</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Jeff. Begs the question what information Ziva has to suggest it opened in 1826.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suspect you know this Peter, as you seem to know the area - I&#039;d never heard of Stowe Green !. The British History sites states</p>
<p>&quot;The hamlet of Stowe had a beerhouse in 1851, (fn. 257) probably the Travellers Rest, which was so called by 1891 (fn. 258) and was still open in 1992.&quot;<br />
<a href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp195-231">https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp195-231</a></p>
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<p>The GlosPubs site doesn&#039;t have any history for the pub before 1891, perhaps because that was when it gained the name ?. No direct link possible but it&#039;s page is easily found by searching for &quot;Stowe Green&quot;. <br />
<a href="http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPubs_view.php">http://www.gloucestershirepubs.co.uk/AllGlosPubsDatabase/AllGlosPubs_view.php</a></p>
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<p>Heather Hurley&#039;s book &quot;Pubs of the RFoD&quot; states that &quot;it opened as a beerhouse around 1850 to cater for the lime burners, quarrymen and farm labourers working in the neighbourhood&quot;.  In other words, no mention of any &quot;traveller&#039;s&quot;, or it being an Inn ie offering accommodation for them to &quot;rest&quot; in. The earliest &quot;beer retailer&quot; mentioned in the book is Charles Knight in 1879.</p>
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<p>By the way a &quot;beerhouse&quot; differed from a &quot;public house&quot; insofar it was only permitted to sell beer, but not spirits as well. In theory neither are &quot;inns&quot;, which also offer accommodation. Beerhouses were an attempt by the government to encourage working-class people to return to drinking beer or cider as a norm, and not gin.<br />
<a href="http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/articles/beerhouse.html">http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/articles/beerhouse.html</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 18:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For info:</p>
<p>The Clearwell 1880 map at <a href="https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp195-231">https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/glos/vol5/pp195-231</a> shows a dot on the crossroads just to the right of the name &#039;Stowe&#039;. That&#039;s the location of the inn. The dotted line is the parish boundary.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earliest, likely, record I can find is from the 1851 census:</p>
<p>Newland. Stowe Green.<br />
Edward Gilbert  Head 58 1793 Beer House Keeper and Lime Burner <br />
Elizabeth Gilbert Wife 60 1791 </p>
<p>This is the only record of a beer house or similar in the area so assume it&#039;s the Travellers rest.</p>
<p>I can find an Edward and Eliz Gilbert in 1841 census but he is listed as a farmer living in St Briavels. Could be the same. The location of the Travellers Rest is right on the parish boundary between Newland and St Briavels.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always good to let people know what you already have as it saves duplication.</p>
<p>What&#039;s the earliest records you have?</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 14:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter, yes, did see that, but the info there starts around 1850, I was wanting to go back further, from 1826 onwards if possible.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 12:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a prior thread at about this inn at <a href="https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=11401">https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=11401</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, does anyone have any info on the early occupants of the Travellers Rest when I believed it first opened around 1826?</p>
<p>Thank you in advance!</p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 10:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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