Mary anne hannah meek was also my great grandmother. My mother was born in Ferndale to Alice Maud who was mary's daughter. If you have any more info I would really appreciate it.

jackie

Sorry I missed this question dated 16th February amongst the others. Luckily I had an email from Rosie today via a friend, which caused me to look again at this posting.
Yes I have Hannah Meek baptised 22.8.1813 married to Moses Nelmes baptised 17.3.1805 at Hope Mansell 27.3.1830. Moses being the son of William Nelmes 1761/1812 & Susan Annetts 1770.

Before moving on to Moses Nelmes & Hannah Meek's son George. At some stage look at the posting Joseph Wilce 1853 and my response – as Moses Nelmes & Hannah Meek's daughter Charlotte married James Wilce and Joseph Wilce 1853 was their son.

Getting back to George Meek, I agree he married Esther Mansell, but I don't have a date. Son Timothy married Emily Cook with 4 children. Son Frederick married Laura Emily Marfell born 1.4.1873, daughter of Benjamin Marfell & Elizabeth Mason (picture on this web site) Providence Chapel (now a private house) 22.11.1890, I have the certificate if you wanted an email copy.

Frederick Nelmes & Laura nee Marfell had 10 children, the first Frederick 9.5.1892 married Ethel Blanche Marfell 1891 and had 2 children. Another of their offspring was Arnold Dennis Nelmes 1901 who married Edith Lilian Hillman and their daughter I have met several times, last time in October and due to meet again in July.

Apologies again for missing your question

Jim Ashton

Thanks once again for your information, quite a bit there.

As I stated earlier I am the great grandson of Mary Ann Hannah MEEK, the sister of Alice. This makes you my 3rd cousin.

Mary Ann married twice.

11 Jan 1874 Thomas Hardy Trotter witnesses were William & Mary Marfell.

20 May 1877 (William) Henry Palmer witnesses were T Jones & Alice Meek.

I have both these marriage certs plus Mary Ann's birth cert.

Kind Regards

David

Thanks for all the information. This line was one that I had entered in the first place with some as "connected" people rather than "related" people, following the siblings & parents of spouses. Very often the people entered in this way become related due to the subsequent discovery of other information. Sometimes you have to draw a line though and this it appeared had been a case in point. I had Rosemary Angela Bundy and spouse in my Tree and decided not to proceed further, simply noting against her entry - "two children see XXXX Tribal Pages for details" As my computer updates relationships for me, I now find that Rosie is in fact a 7th cousin once removed, so Hi cousin Rosie !!

Jim Ashton

Thanks for your input, Alice nee Meek was my Great-Grandaunt.

Her children were

James William Williams, who I think died young

Richard (Ainsley) Williams, not sure about the Ainsley but the only Richard I can find on the 1901 census.

Stephen Jabez Jayne

Regards

David

Cheers
Mike

Thanks for the information, I had not thought of adding a "S" to Jayne.

It proved it's my great grand aunt Alice Meek

Are you related to this family?

Regards

David

Deaths Mar 1890
Jaynes Charlotte 29 Westbury S. 6a 215

Alice's first marriage:
Marriages Sep 1879
MEEK Alice Ross 6a 795
WILLIAMS James Ross 6a 795

1881 Census entry for James and Alice:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
James WILLIAMS Head M Male 23 Bridstow, Hereford, England Butcher
Alice WILLIAMS Wife M Female 24 Cinderford, Gloucester, England
James W M. WILLIAMS Son Male 10 m Ross, Hereford, England

Source Information:
Dwelling Berry Field
Census Place Ross, Hereford, England
Family History Library Film 1341623
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2585 / 84
Page Number 24

Deaths Dec 1882
Williams James 24 Ross 6a 320

and the marriage you seek:
Marriages Sep 1890
Jaynes Edward Henry Ross 6a 827
WILLIAMS Alice Ross 6a 827

Entry Number 91
Year 1890
Month Aug
Day 25
Groom Surname JAYNES
Groom Forenames Edward Henry
Groom Age at Marriage 30
Groom condition Widower
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence Bishopswood
Groom Father's Surname Jaynes
Groom Father's Forenames Stephen
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Collier
Bride Surname WILLIAMS
Bride Forenames Alice
Bride Age at Marriage 35
Bride Condition Widow
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence Bishopswood
Bride Father's Surname Meek
Bride Father's Forenames Richard
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Collier
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 [illegible] Meek
Witness 2 Eliza Meek
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister F.H. Aldrich-Blake
Event type Marriage
Memoranda Minister's full name Frederick Hooper Aldrich-Blake
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference
Page No 46
Parish_Chapel Bishopswood

Mike

I know you are related to the Marfells.

Do you have this one?

Hannah Meek 1813 sister of Richard married Moses Nelmes.

Their Son George 1831 married Esther Mansell.

Their son Frederick 1868 married Laura Emily Marfell.

Regards

David

I admit to being a bit confused myself !!

I received information about the Alice (daughter of Richard Meek) marriage to Edward H Jayne from someone with the surname Jayne. She has a family tree on Tribal pages and I have just had a peek, to see that she has Alice married to Edward H Jayne and James Williams. I found the marriage you mentioned on the Parish Records and she was shown as a spinster, but I haven't got the detail of the marriage to Edward Jayne. As it happens I had an email from the person in question today. I will email back and see if she has any more information. I have shown below the Census details I have :

1861 Census Ruardean
Richard Meek 43 Coal Miner Ruardean
Ann 42 East Dean
James 16 Coal Miner Ruardean
Mary Ann 14 Ruardean
Elizabeth 11 Ruardean
Charlotte 8 Ruardean
Alice 6 Ruardean
Richard 4 Ruardean
Eliza 1 Ruardean

In 1881 Alice's father Richard was with his son William and Alice's brother Richard - this latter Richard being the most important one to me as he married Elizabeth Ann Marfell. As you see Alice was not there :

1881 Census
Dwelling: Ruardean Hill
Census Place: (Westbury On Severn) East Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1341608 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 2521 Folio 113 Page 8
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
William Jnr MEEK M 38 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Mar (Head)
Occ: Coal Miner
Jane MEEK M 34 F Ireland
Rel: Wife
Jane Ann MEEK 11 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Clara MEEK 9 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Elizabeth MEEK O 7 F East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Dau
Occ: Scholar
Richard MEEK U 23 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Brother
Occ: Coal Miner
Richard MEEK W 63 M East Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Father
Occ: Laborer
Mary Ann DAVIS W 58 F Ireland
Rel: Mother in Law
Occ: Income Derived from House

1891 Census RG 12/2056/117
Edward H Jayne 31 Coal Miner Gloucstershire
Alice 34 Gloucstershire
Florence 8 Gloucstershire
Thomas 6 Mon
Alfred 4 Gloucstershire
Edward D 8 Gloucstershire
William 10 Herefordshire
Richard 9 Herefordshire
Ann Powle 76 widow lodger

1901 Census Walford
Edward H Jayne 40 CM Ruardean
Alice 45 Laundress Cinderford
Alfred 14 page boy Ruardean
Edward H 12 Cinderford
Stephen 8 Bishopswood Heref

Jim Ashton

Sorry I have now found Alice & Edward in the 1891 Census, with 2 Williams children.

I can't find a marriage though.

Regards

David

I have Alice married to James Williams on 25 Aug 1879 Bishopwood.
The Parish Record is on this site.

Do you think I have the wrong Alice? daughter of Richard.

Regards

David

To add to the information here, Alice born 1854 married Edward Henry Jayne born 20.7.1860 South Wales about 1891, they had a son Stephen Jabez Jayne 6.6.1892 Bishopswood, Herefordshire. Edward Henry Jayne had been married before to Charlotte Jayne 29.4.1883 Drybrook and they had 4 children.

Jim Ashton

Daughter of Richard Meek & Ann Cloudley.

Her known siblings were

William Meek 1842 married Jane Davies
James Meek 1844 married Sophia Trigg
Elizabeth Meek 1849
Charlotte Meek 1853
Alice Meek 1854
Richard Meek 1857 married Elizabeth Marfell
Eliza Meek 1860

Mary Ann married 1st Thomas Hardy Trotter in 1874 and then William Henry Palmer in 1877.

Mary & William came to the Rhondda Valley in Glamorgan very soon after they married.

Any Meek cousins out there ?

Were there any more children for Richard & Ann ?

Regards

David Jones
Rhondda Valley