Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Other FoD VAUGHANs in Bristol in 1851

Other FoD VAUGHANs in Bristol in 1851 (reply)

jimashton — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 15:27:24 +0000

Although not directly related to the persons named in the original enquiry, about whom I have no knowledge, I do have in my family tree the Hannah Maria Vaughan 1778 whose baptism is shown in Slowhands Feb 2008 contribution.

This Hannah Maria Vaughan is a bit of a mystery to me. She is in my tree as I have connections with descendants of both her parents Richard Vaughan 1741 & Betty Gagg 1746.

I have Hannah Maria Vaughan 1778 as married to John Vaughan 1778, son of William Vaughan 1748 and Hannah Jemima Bennett 1757. Before moving away from John Vaughan's parents, my notes for them (from an unknown source - I am very bad at recording sources) :
Notes for WILLIAM VAUGHAN: Ruardean records 48/22 - 1809/10 Final Concord made at Westminster in 49th year of reign of George III , sale of property by William and Hannah Jemima Vaughan to John and Mary(Vaughan from courtfield) Jones. Copies 36 Pounds See: www.ancestordocs.co.uk/Gloucestershire.htm

I have not found a marriage for Hannah Maria Vaughan & John Vaughan, but I believe it is possible that she had previously been married to a Yemm as I did find this marriage :

Year: 1807
Month: Aug
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: VAUGHAN
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Parish of Ruardean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YEMM
Brides_Forenames: Anna Maria
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Walford
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Hannah Vaughan
Witness_2: William Webb
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J. H. Beeston Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AO19/5
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Walford

John Vaughan 1778 & Hannah Maria Vaughan had a daughter Elizabeth Vaughan born 26 Dec 1806 and baptised Ruardean 5 Feb 1808. My notes for her are interesting :

Notes : Baptised after Elizabeth's marriage to John Vaughan when they presumably adopted her. See research notes regarding the parentage of her birth mother Frances Vaughan :

Research Notes : She is Frances ,the daughter of William and Frances Vaughan of Courtfield . He is the son of Richard (1708) who was banished to spain and never returned . William(1738) inherited from his uncle John Vaughan . Frances did marry a Major Thomas Davis in 1810 . Although i don't have her birthdate , her brother william was born in 1781.

I have this Hannah Maria Vaughan as buried 29 Nov 1851 St James, Bristol.

There are a number of connections between the Vaughan's and the Bennett's. Hannah Maria Vaughan 1778 had a brother Absalom 1772 who married a Mary Bennett, her brother John Vaughan 1777 married Elizabeth Bennett.

Jim Ashton

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john vaughan — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:32:46 +0000

I have a large amount of info on the Vaughans of Tidenham, Woolaston and Hewelsfield,
dating from about 1780. I have not tried to go back any further as yet.

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mellychesnel — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:24:19 +0000

update on information for those who may be interested:
Phillip Vaughan(1839) had a grandmother called Ann. I have bought her death cert and the details are as follows:
Death: 1849 18 Mar
Age 58
residence Eugene st, St Philip And St Jacob'S, Bristol
died of asthema registered by M porter resident in near by Wade St (she is a next door neighbour to Ann Vaughan in Little Ann St on the 1841 census)
Ann is given as the widow of Phillip Vaughan occupation smith

They seem to have a son Thomas whose baptismal records are on IGI:
bapt 08 FEB 1824 St Philip And St Jacob'S, Bristol, Gloucester, England

He seems to be on the 1841 England Census
Age: 20, occupation smith, residence Little Ann St, St Philip And St Jacob'S, Bristol, Gloucester

I have also found a George Vaughan on the 1841 census in King's Alms lane Brislington, age 30, a lodger by the looks of things, occupation plasterer which fits the info on Philip's wedding cert. I have still yet to find a direct connection to FoD Vaughans as I have no idea where Philip senior was born or married. His wife Ann was according to the 1841 census born in Gloucestershire about 1791 and if I have found the right William/George Vaughan then according to the 1841 census he was born in Somerset not Gloucestershire which is likely where his mother's family came from and most likely where their wedding took place, although The census records give Sarah mapstone place of birth as Bristol about 1819

Other FoD VAUGHANs in Bristol in 1851 (reply)

Shirleyanne — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 15:47:42 +0000

As Richard and Betty Vaughan are my 5g grandparents I would be interested to see Richard's will (proved in 1829/30).
Would you be able to supply a copy to be posted and shared on this site?

Other FoD VAUGHANs in Bristol in 1851 (reply)

vaughap — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:14:26 +0000

My 3 times Great Grandmother was Hannah Vaughan referred to above as living Bristol St James in the 1841 and 1851 Censuses. She was married to a Philip Vaughan but it seems she was herself a Vaughan. Her parents being Richard and Betty Vaughan (her will confirms this as it refers to pews at Ruardean Church, which she was bequeathed in Richard Vaughan's will, proved in 1829/30).

I have never been able to trace this Philip Vaughan, however. He died prior to 1837 but his children were born in Bristol St James between 1803 and 1810.

Paul Vaughan

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mellychesnel — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 00:35:41 +0000

exactly! Though Philip was married in Southwark in 1863 and if his mother was not present he must have given the info on the certificate from memory, some 15 years after his father's death. Maybe he was called George by the family but christened William, or the other way round, maybe Sarah called him William but he was christened George. What I would dearly love to know is where William/George and Sarah were married, if they were CoE it should have been St Phillips church and unfortunately there birth records were destroyed by bombing in WWII, but I don't know about the marriage records. In short I am no nearer to finding where Philip's father was born and therefore from which set of Vaughan's he was descended.
as for the Mapstone connection, there is a James and Ann Mapstone living in Wade st( next to Little Ann st) on the 1841 census with a son Thomas who is doing a carpenters apprenticeship in Ubley in Sommerset on the 1851 census, which is a possible for Sarah's family if and when I can find their marriage details.

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slowhands — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:41:01 +0000

Mapstone is in line with the Bristol / North Somerset area.

However

Philip's wedding certificate gives his father's name as George (occupation - painter/plasterer),

seems at odds with a father named as William ??

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mellychesnel — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:40:03 +0000

according to the birth certificate which arrived this morning Philip's father's name is William, his mother's maiden name was Mapstone, his father's occupation was labourer and the birth was registered by his mother.
The following entry is a possible for William's birth:

Record_ID: 12477
Entry Number: 38
Year: 1814
Month: Feb
Day: 15
Parents Surname: VAUGHAN
Child Forenames: William
Father's Forenames: William
Mother's Forenames: Teresiae
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: Born: 1814/02/14
Notes:
Register Reference:
Page No:
Parish_Chapel: Courtfield
Soundex: V250

I can't as yet find any mention of a marriage for William and Sarah - anyone got any ideas?

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mellychesnel — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:09:22 +0000

thanks very much - once I get the birth certificate for Philip I will be able to see if I can fit the pieces of the puzzle together
kind regards
melanie

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slowhands — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 22:46:29 +0000

1851
Elizabeth Scott abt 1771 Ruaeden, Gloucestershire, England Head Bristol St James, Gloucestershire Annuitant
Hannah Vaughan abt 1779 Ruaeden, Gloucestershire, England Visitor Bristol St James, Gloucestershire Annuitant

1841 ??
Hannah Vaughan abt 1786 St James, Gloucestershire

did this Hannah not marry and is possibly :-

Year: 1778
Month: Nov
Day: 14
Parents Surname: VAUGHAN
Child Forenames: Hannah
Father's Forenames: Richard
Mother's Forenames: Betty
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating Minister:
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/5
Page No: 47
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean

and

1851
Robert Vaughan abt 1797 Forest Deer, Gloucestershire, England Head Bristol St Paul, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Hugha [VAUGHAN] abt 1798 Bristol Wife Bristol St Paul, Gloucestershire

1841
Robert Vaughan abt 1796 St Paul, Gloucestershire
Mary Vaughan abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England St Paul, Gloucestershire

and
1851
William Vaughan abt 1801 Tiddenham, Gloucestershire, England Head Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Harriet Vaughan abt 1801 Woodborough, Somerset, England Wife Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Charles Vaughan abt 1841 Bristol Son Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
George Vaughan abt 1836 Bristol Son Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire

the bits you have

1851
Sarah Vaughan abt 1819 Bristol Head Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Philip Vaughan abt 1840 Bristol Son Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Vaughan abt 1845 Bristol Daughter Bristol St Philip and St Jacob,

death ?
Name: Ann Vaughan
Year of Registration: 1849
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 250

birth
Name: Sarah Ann Vaughan
Year of Registration: 1845
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page:

1841 Little Ann Street
Ann Vaughan abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Sarah Vaughan abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire
Philip Vaughan abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire

birth
Name: Philip Vaughan
Year of Registration: 1839
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Clifton
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 267

1841 Little Ann Street
Betsey Vaughan abt 1791 Gloucestershire, England St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire

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mellychesnel — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 19:47:25 +0000

I've ordered a copy of the Philip Vaughan's birth certificate but whilst I'm waiting for it to arrive here in France I've had the following thought on which you might like to comment.
My grandmother paid a professional, in the late 60's I believe, to chase up the family records. He got as far as Philip son of George and said he could go no further because Philip's baptismal records were lost in WWII when the church in which they were kept was bombed! My grandmother left it at that and in the late 70's when I took up the quest I went to the records office in Bristol and looked up the baptismal records for Holy Trinity (which did exist!) for the period covering a year before his birth to more than 2 years after his birth and could find nothing. I was working on the principal that he would be C of E and therefore baptized in his local parish church shortly after his birth. It has just occurred to me that he may have been from catholic or non-conformist stock do you know the confession of the Vaughan families in Tiddenham and Whitecroft at this time?
With regard to George Vaughan, I've looked at the 1841 census for Tiddenham and son George is no longer living with his parents so it is possible that he was Sarah's husband, we shall have to wait and see what the birth certificate says,

yours
melanie

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mellychesnel — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 03:45:34 +0000

no I didn't have any of this! - thank you for your help and prompt reply I will look at it all in detail and keep you posted

kind regards melanie

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ChrisW — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 02:12:53 +0000

Hi Melanie

Some possibles from the FOD site.

This one fits in with your time frame for George Vaughan:

record_id 60841
Entry No 319
Year 1823
Month Nov
Day 23
Parents Surname VAUGHAN
Child Forename George
Father'e Forename George
Mother's Forename Sarah
Place of Residence Tidenham
Occupation Cobler [sic]
Officiating Minister Tho[mas] Thomas
Event Type Baptism
Register Ref P333/1 in 1/3
Page 40
Parish/Chapel Tidenham
Soundex V250

record_id 103654
Entry No 718
Year 1849
Month Aug
Day 1
Surname VAUGHAN
Forename George
Place of Residence The Chase, Tidenham
Age at death 27
Officiating Minister J Armstrong Vicar
Event Burial
Register Ref P333/1 in 1/16
Page 90
Parish/Chapel Tidenham
Soundex V250

This for a Thomas Vaughan:

record_id 111715
Entry No 565
Year 1832
Month Aug
Day 5
Parents Surname VAUGHAN
Child Forename Thomas
Father's Forename Thomas
Mother's Forename Elizabeth
Place of Residence Whitecroft
Occupation Coal Miner
Officiating Minister H[enr]y Poole Minister
Event Baptism
Register Ref P245 in 1/9
Page 71
Parish/Chapel Parkend

Have just found Philip's birth registration on FreeBMD:

Vaughan Philip July-Sep 1839 CLIFTON Vol 11 Page 267

St Philip & St Jacob was a sub district of Clifton.
But I expect you've already got this!

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mellychesnel — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 00:36:10 +0000

My great great grandfather Philip Vaughan was born in the parish of St philip and St jacob in Bristol and shows up on the 1841 census as 1 year old living with his mother Sarah Vaughan and Ann Vaughan in Little Ann St. Ann is age 50 to 54 and was born in Gloucestershire, Sarah is given in the 1851 census as being a widow with son Philip and daughter Sarah Ann Vaughan age 5 and born in Bristol about 1819.

Philip's wedding certificate gives his father's name as George (occupation - painter/plasterer), but I can find no record of him in the census, and I couldn't find baptismal records for Philip Vaughan in Holy Trinty Church records when I looked for his date of birth 24.8.1839 (as given on marriage certificate) By deduction George must have been born before 1824 and died between 1845 and 1851.

In the 1841 census for Little Ann St. there is a Betsy Vaughan (mother-in-law? to Samual Britton, an agricultural labourer)born about 1790 and a Thomas Vaughan(occupation â€“ smith?) born about 1830, possibly in Whitecroft.
In the 1851 census for the parish of St philip there is also the family of William Vaughan who came fron Tiddenham. In my family there is a rumor that either George or Philip vaughan was an illegitimate child of the Vaughans from Courtfield or Ruardean. I would be interested to hear from anyone who knows of any connection between the Vaughans living in St Philips, Bristol in the early 19th century and Vaughans originating in the FoD

You can contact me at mjchesnel@ornamentation.fr.