Forest of Dean FHT Forum - KILBY/DANCE/WHITE

KILBY/DANCE/WHITE (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:14:43 +0000

GloucestershireBDM

Birth: 1838, Chepstow, Lydney -KILBY - mother's maiden name DANCE

1841 Census, Woolastone

KILBY

Thomas - 45 - all born in County
Margaret - 40
James - 10
Ann - 10
William - 9
John - 5 ***
Mary - 2

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1861 Census, Herefordshire
Ganarew

Yew Tree Cottage

KILBY

Margrett - 59 - Widow, Laundress - born Lanrcthel, Herefordshire
Mary - daughter - 22 - born Woolastone

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1891 Wales Census, Llanishen
Station House

KILBY

John - 53 - born Woolastone
Elizabeth - 49 - born Coleford
Flora - 19 - all born Glamorgan, Llanishen
Emma - 17
Mary E - 15
George - 13
Margaret - 9

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1871 Census, Glamorgan, Llanishen
Yew Tree Cottage

John KILBY - married - age 33, Railway Station Master, born Glos. Woolaston

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FOD records

Marriage at Newland 12 May 1863

John KILBY, age 25 Bachelor, Official on Great Western Railway, residence: St Marys Cardiff
father: Thomas KILBY, Farmer
married
Elizabeth WHITE age 21, Spinster, residence, Coleford
father: Charles WHITE, Carpenter, by banns

witnesses: Charles WHITE and Elizabeth (illegible)

Edward Kilby or Thomas Kilby (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:55:22 +0000

There seems to be a difference of opinion on various Public Members Trees on Ancestry also, which states Thomas KILBY married Elizabeth ELLEY - Penrose, Monmouthshire - 9 May 1842.

FreeBDM

J/A/S Sept Qtr 1842

Monmouth (which includes Penrhos)

BALL Edward Richard
ELLEY Elizabeth
ELLEY Fanney
KILBY Thomas

this certificate should give the father's christian name

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1851 Census Newland

KILBY

Thomas 40 - born The Kingslutt, Herefordshire
Elizabeth - 33 - born Berry Hill
Jane - 7
John - 3
Thomas - 1

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GloucestershireBDM

KILBY - mother's maiden name ELLEY

Thomas 1849
William 1851
James 1859
Richard 1862

1861 Census, Newland
Lower Lane

Mary ELLEY - Widow - 87 - Beerhouse Keeper, born Salop Cleeve Hill
Richard ELLEY - 46 - son Coal Miner, born Glos. Newland
Elizabeth KILBY - daughter - 35 - Shepherds wife
Richard - son - 21 - Coal Miner
Jane - 18 - House Servant
John - 14 - Coal Miner
Thomas - 11
William - 9
Fanny - 6 + baptism address given as Highmeadow ***
James - 1

*** christened at Newland 6 April 1863, along with William, Emma, James, Richard

John was christened 17 August 1847 at Christchurch - residence Berry Hill

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1861 Census, Coleford, Newland
High Meadow

Thomas KILBY 51 - Shepherd - born Shilton, Oxfordshire
William KILBY - age - 7 - born Newland

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1871 Census, West Dean

KILBEY

Elizabeth - W - Charwoman, born West Dean
Thomas - 21 Iron Ore M - born Newland
William - 19 - born West Dean
Fanny - 16
Emma - 14
James - 11

FOD records
When Fanny KILBY married John JONES at Christchurch 31 March 1878 - her father Thomas KILBY (Shepherd) was deceased

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???

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Death: Thomas KILBY age 55 - J/F/M Qtr 1867 - Monmouth District

Edward Kilby or Thomas Kilby (reply)

unknown — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 20:06:37 +0000

Have two names of which I am confused about
1. Edward Kilby born abt. 1783-1837 married a Jane Bunce (1781-1857) married 1804
One of the children Thomas born 1811 married Elizabeth Elley on 9/5/1842

2. I have a Thomas Kilby who married a Margaret Dance in 1801

One of the children Thomas born 1811 married Elizabeth Elley on 9/5/1842

Can anyone tell which is correct

so can anyone tell who Edward Kilby who married Jane Bunce was

Fanny KILBY 1854 Coleford (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:03:41 +0000

Year: 1863
Month: Apr
Day: 6
Parents Surname: KILBY
Child Forenames: Fanny
Father's Forenames: Thomas
Mother's Forenames: Elizabeth
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: High Meadow
Occupation: Shepherd
Officiating Minister: S.C.Morgan Curate
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P227 IN 1/6
Page No: 223
Parish_Chapel: Newland

1861 Lower Lane Coleford
Mary Elley abt 1774 Cleeve Hill, Shropshire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Richard Elley abt 1815 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Richard Elley abt 1840 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Kilby abt 1826 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Emma Kilby abt 1858 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Fanny Kilby abt 1855 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
James Kilby abt 1860 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire
Jane Kilby abt 1843 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Newland, Gloucestershire
John Kilby abt 1847 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire
Thomas Kilby abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire
William Kilby abt 1852 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Newland, Gloucestershire

1851
Thomas Kilby abt 1811 The Hingslutt, Herefordshire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Kilby abt 1818 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Jane Kilby abt 1844 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
John Kilby abt 1848 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Thomas Kilby abt 1850 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

John JONES 1853 Llandrindod Wells, Radnorshire (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:40:05 +0000

I assume that Boots is the Boot/shoe cleaner aka Bootboy ( not the Chemist ! )

1871 Royal Hotel Ross
John Jones abt 1853 Llandrindod Servant Ross, Herefordshire Boots

and a suspect for his family

1861
Thomas Jones abt 1821 Llanyre, Radnorshire, Wales Head Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
Mary Jones abt 1830 Derbyshire, England Wife Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
Eliza A Jones abt 1859 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales Daughter Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
Jane Jones abt 1860 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales Daughter Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
John Jones abt 1855 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales Son Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
Mary A Jones abt 1851 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales Daughter Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
Thomas Jones abt 1853 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales Son Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire
William Jones abt 1857 Nantmel, Radnorshire, Wales Son Gwastedin Fawr, Radnorshire

Fanny Kilby abt 1854/Marriage to John Jones 1879 (reply)

ChrisW — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:37:29 +0000

Yes, no, maybe?

record_id 2505
Entry No 280
Year 1878
Month March
Day 31
Groom Surname JONES
Groom Forename John
Age at marriage 24
Groom Condition Bachelor
Rank or Profession Boots
Place of Residence Ross
Groom Father's Surname Jones
Groom F.F. Thomas (deceased)
Rank or Profession Mason
Bride Surname KILBY
Bride Forename Fanny
Age at marriage 23
Bride Condition Spinster
Place of Residence Berry Hill
Bride Father's Surname Kilby
Bride F.F. Thomas (deceased)
Rank or Profession Shepherd
Licence or Banns Licence
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 Mark of Thomas Kilby
Witness 2 Jane Brown
Officiating Minister W H Taylor
Event Marriage
Register Ref PFC82 in 1/7
Page 140
Parish/Chapel Christchurch
Soundex Groom J520
Soundex Bride K410

Witness 1 is most likely Fanny's brother, who was a shepherd like his father.
What sort of rank or profession was Boots??

I cannot find a baptism for Fanny but there is this registration which could be her:

KILVY Fanny Monmouth Sept 1854 Vol 11a Page 19

There are two burials for John Jones's without age at death.

Marriage of Ethel Knight (reply)

bertha — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:33:50 +0000

Marriage of Ethel Knight
Record_ID: 26345
Entry Number: 76
Year: 1913
Month: Apr
Day: 28
Groom Surname: HULLETT
Groom Forenames: Horace Austin
Groom Age at Marriage: 24
Groom condition: Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession: Rate Collector
Groom Residence: Bowens Hill Coleford
Groom Father's Surname: Thomas Henry
Groom Father's Forenames: Hullett
Groom Father's Rank or Profession: Assistant Overseer
Bride Surname: KNIGHT
Bride Forenames: Ethel Maud
Bride Age at Marriage: 21
Bride Condition: Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession: [not stated]
Bride Residence: Kings Head Coleford
Bride Father's Surname: Edwin
Bride Father's Forenames: Knight (deceased)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession: License Holder
Licence or Banns: Banns
Date of banns:
Signature or Mark: Both sign
Witness 1: Bertram K Locke
Witness 2: Dorothy L Hullett
Other witnesses: G Knight Florence Knight
Officiating Minister: Edward H Brice
Event type: Marriage
Memoranda:
Transcriber's Notes:
Register Reference: P93 IN 1/12
Page No: 38
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex Groom: H430
Soundex Bride: K523

Edwin Knight - Ruardean - 1863 - 1913 (reply)

bertha — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:24:22 +0000

England Census 1891

NOTE!!
On the actual Census Record, Albert born 1879 and Frances E born 1882 are listed with the surname JONES indicating that Fanny may have been a widow when she married Edwin Knight

Albert Knight abt 1879 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Edwin Knight abt 1863 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Knight abt 1858 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Wife Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Frances E Knight abt 1882 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Kate Knight abt 1887 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Sydney Knight abt 1890 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Knight abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son Ruardean, Gloucestershire

1901 England Census living at The Swan Hotel
Edwin Knight abt 1863 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fanny Knight abt 1856 High Mearton, Monmouthshire, Wales Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Frances E Knight abt 1882 Ross, Herefordshire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Kate Knight abt 1887 Berry Hill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ethel Knight abt 1892 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Florence M Knight abt 1894 Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Hilda Knight abt 1897 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Sidney Knight abt 1891 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Knight abt 1889 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Jane Cooper abt 1877 Lydbrork, Gloucestershire, England Servant East Dean, Gloucestershire

Baptism of Sydney available to view on this website
Record_ID: 58476
Entry Number: 396
Year: 1890
Month: Jun
Day: 15
Parents Surname: KNIGHT
Child Forenames: Sydney
Father's Forenames: Edwin
Mother's Forenames: Fanny
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Ruardean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: E Bailey-Churchill
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page No: 50
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: K523

Baptism of Hilda
Record_ID: 58649
Entry Number: 569
Year: 1897
Month: Apr
Day: 14
Parents Surname: KNIGHT
Child Forenames: Hilda
Father's Forenames: Edwin
Mother's Forenames: Fanny
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Cinderford
Occupation: Licensed Victualler
Officiating Minister: Edw[ard] Parnell Rector
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page No: 72
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: K523

Baptism of Thomas
Record_ID: 58445
Entry Number: 365
Year: 1888
Month: Jun
Day: 10
Parents Surname: KNIGHT
Child Forenames: Thomas
Father's Forenames: Edwin
Mother's Forenames: Fanny
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Ruardean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: J Brasher Beesley Rector
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page No: 46
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: K523

Baptism of Florence M
Record_ID: 58579
Entry Number: 499
Year: 1893
Month: Dec
Day: 31
Parents Surname: KNIGHT
Child Forenames: Florence Minnie
Father's Forenames: Edwin
Mother's Forenames: Fanny
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: The Plump n[ea]r Mitcheldean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: William Robinson
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Sept 23 1893
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page No: 63
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: K523

Baptism of Ethel
Record_ID: 58537
Entry Number: 457
Year: 1892
Month: Jan
Day: 31
Parents Surname: KNIGHT
Child Forenames: Ethel Maud
Father's Forenames: Edwin
Mother's Forenames: Fanny
Mother's Surname:
Place of Residence: Ruardean
Occupation: Collier
Officiating Minister: E Bailey-Churchill
Event type: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register Reference: P275 IN 1/8
Page No: 58
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: K523

Edwin Knight - Ruardean - 1863 - 1913

Teresa — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:35:32 +0000

I am looking for information about Edwin Knight. He ran The Swan Hotel in Cinderford High Street.

I am looking for information on his family especially his wife. All I know about her was her name was Fanny. She was possibly older than Edwin.

They had 7 children - Frances b. 1882
- Kate b. 1887
- Thomas b. 1888
- Sydney b. 1890
- Florence b. 1893
- Ethel b. 1894
- Hilda b. 1897

I can't seem to find much out about these either.

Any info will be gratefully appreciated.