Florence Acheson (General)

by Rasthem, Monday, April 15, 2019, 19:03 (239 days ago)

Florence lived at Green Acre, Broad Oak, Newnham. between 1954 and 1957. She, at sometime, worked for Dr L Trotter. Please can anyone help with additional information. Thank you.

Florence Acheson, Newnham, 1950s ?

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 19:46 (238 days ago) @ Rasthem

Hi and welcome to the forum. Luckily this is an unusual name, so can find this record in FreeBMD which is presumably your Florence;

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/DoB District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1973 (>99%)
ACHESON FLORENCE 13MR1910 GLOUCESTER C 7B 1217

Sadly that's the only record I can find that def relates to her. Was Acheson her maiden name or had she married as I suspect ?.

Maybe worth searching the old newspapers ?

PS Seems she never married so had no descendants, a general internet search find this mention in the London Gazette. When she died she was living in Gloucester.

see https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/45901/supplement/1892/data.pdf

Re Doctor Trotter, could he have been Leslie, son of this Doctor Trotter in this old thread ?.
https://forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=47937

Florence Acheson, Newnham, 1950s ?

by Rasthem, Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 20:31 (238 days ago) @ Jefff

Thanks Jeff, I have found most of the information you have posted. Florence was born in Ballintemple County Cavan. I am trying to find when/how she came to England. I know she was Housekeeper to Dr Leslie B C Trotter but I do not know when. I am hoping that someone might remember such detail.

Florence Acheson, Newnham, 1950s ?

by Mike Pinchin @, Bedford, England, Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 20:40 (238 days ago) @ Rasthem

GR 1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census
First Name Florence Adelaide Emily
Last Name Acheson
Birth Year 1894
Age 17
Where Born Cavan Ireland
Relationship To Head of Household Boarder
Gender Female
Condition Single
Year Of Marriage
Years Of Marriage
Occupation School
Military Info
Address Lee College 5 And 7 Hartfield Sqe Eastbourne
Parish Eastbourne
County Sussex
Country England
Ecclesiastical District
Enumeration District 23
Registration District Eastbourne
Registration District Number 71
SubDistrict Number 2
Category Census, Land & Surveys
Record set 1911 Census For England & Wales
Collections from Great Britain, England
Census Reference RG14PN4835 RG78PN208 RD71 SD2 ED23 SN63
Archive Reference RG14
Folio
Page
Piece Number 4835

Florence Acheson, Newnham, 1950s ?

by Rasthem, Tuesday, April 16, 2019, 20:49 (238 days ago) @ Mike Pinchin

Thanks Mike, Sorry, but the Florence Acheson I am looking for I know was in Ballintemple at 1911 Census living with her parents and siblings.

Florence Acheson, Dr Trotter, Newnham, 1950s ?

by Jefff @, West London, Middlesex, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 00:09 (238 days ago) @ Rasthem

Sorry wasn't exactly what you were/are looking for, but your post was very vague, no dates etc.
No harm done, very little time spent, but do please help us to help you, thanks.

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I wonder if a query like this will be better served by writing an open letter to be printed in the local newspapers, and hopefully their readers will know something ?.

Searching the BNA online newspaper archives may help, chances are the report on Dr L.B.C. Trotter's funeral in 1964 may mention her as well ?.
Having said that, the coverage of local papers such as the Gloster Citizen only covers upto 1950, and the Hereford Times a lot earlier than that. If you're able to visit Cinderford Library they have the Dean Forest Mercury on microfilm.

I don't currently have a subscription so cannot give the full article, but the BNA site's search engine does give the following,

"Dr. Leslie Batten Currie Trotter. of Stroud Road, Gloucester, a well-known member of a medical family in the Forest of Dean, and for many years in practice at Ledbury, left R 40,548 (RA0,432 net). Duty of £11,329 has been paid. His ..."

Published: Monday 7 December 1964
Newspaper: Birmingham Daily Post

https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

Dr LBC Trotter and his home in Ledbury gets a mention and photos here.
http://www.old-ledbury.co.uk/Streets/RosswayNewStreet.htm

He was educated at Cambridge, and served in the RAMC in France in WW1;

"LESLIE BATTEN CURRIE TROTTER (born 1882). M.A., M.D., B.Ch. (Cantab.).
Leslie Batten Currie Trotter (born 1882) [Epsom College 1898-1901] was the son of Dr L. B. Trotter, of Coleford, Gloucestershire. He received his medical education at Clare College, Cambridge and University College Hospital, before entering general practice at Ledbury, Herefordshire. During the First World War he served as a Captain in the R.A.M.C., at Ypres and in Italy (1914-1918)."

http://atelim.com/epsom-college-1855-1899-general-practitioners-medical-officers.html?p...

Sadly I'm unable to find his Medal Card etc.

He is mentioned in the following downloadable document, as follows;

"Leslie Batten Currie Trotter (1882-1964)

Member: ?1921-1964
Bryological activity:
Herbarium:

Trotter was born at Coleford, Gloucestershire, a son of Dr. Leslie Batten Trotter (c.1850-1934) and Elizabeth (née Currie, 1858-1882). Leslie Trotter senior was a son of Thomas Birt Trotter (1806-c.1855), grocer and general merchant at Coleford, and Jane (née Thomas, c.1815-1885). Elizabeth Currie was a daughter and fifth child of John Currie (1814-1904), chemist and druggist of Glasgow, and Mary Stark (née Kirkwood, 1823-1901). John Currie was a son of John Currie, a candlemaker, and Elizabeth (née Kirkwood). Mary Kirkwood was a daughter of Robert Kirkwood (born c.1784), a house factor in 1851, and Jean or Jane (née Stark, c.1782).

Leslie Trotter senior married secondly Elizabeth Mary Catchpole in 1890.

Trotter’s first cousin, Wilfred Batten Lewis Trotter (1872-1939) was surgeon to the King, Professor of surgery at University College Hospital in London, and also wrote The Instincts of the Herd in Peace and War (1914); he has an entry in the Dictionary of National Biography.

Leslie Trotter practised as a physician in Ledbury from 1913 until 1939, and joined the MEC in 1921, becoming President of the BBS in 1956. In 1914 he married Hilda Mary (née Pierce), daughter of John Pierce, solicitor of Nottingham, and Hannah Louisa (née Bullock). Hilda was drowned in a boating accident off the coast of the West Highlands in 1943, along with Cecil Marquand (q.v.).

Trotter’s plants are at the National Museum and Gallery of Wales in Cardiff, and his drawings are at the Linnaean Society in London."

https://rbg-web2.rbge.org.uk/bbs/Learning/Bryohistory/MEC_BBS%20Members.rtf


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From Familysearch;


1891 Census; Coalway Road, St John's Parish, Monmouthshire.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Leslie B Trotter Head M 40 Married. Doctor of Medicine. Gloucestershire, England
Mary Trotter Wife F 40 Married. Herefordshire, England
Leslie B C Trotter Son M 8 Scholar. Gloucestershire, England
Wilfred B L Trotter Nephew M 18 Unmarried. Student of science. Gloucestershire, England
Frances Trotter Niece F 24 Unmarried. Australia
Alice Morgan Servant F 28 Unmarried. Domestic cook. Clearwell, Gloucestershire, England
Emily Willis Servant F 15 Unmarried. Domestic Servant. Gloucestershire, England


Name Leslie Batten Courie Trotter
Event Type Census
Event Date 31 Mar 1901
Event Place Epsom, Surrey, England
County Surrey
Civil Parish Epsom
Ecclesiastical Parish St Martins
Sub-District Epsom
Registration District Epsom
Gender Male
Age 18
Occupation STU
Relationship to Head of Household Pupil
Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Birthplace Newland, Gloucestershire
Page Number 5


Name Leslie Batten Currie Trotter
Alias BATTEN CURRIE
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place Islington, Upper Holloway N, London, England
County London
Parish Islington
Sub-District Upper Holloway
Sub-District Number 2
District Number 10
Enumeration District 24
Registration District Islington
Gender Male
Age 28
Marital Status SINGLE
Marital Status SINGLE
Occupation MEDICAL PRACTITIONER
Industry GENERAL HOSPITAL
Institution GREAT NORTHERN CENTRAL HOSPITAL
Birth Year (Estimated) 1883
Birthplace Coleford, Gloucestershire
Relationship to Head of Household Medical Officer
Schedule Type 1
Page Number 1
Registration Number RG14
Piece/Folio 183
Affiliate Record Identifier GBC/1911/RG14/00820/0183/5

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Name Florence Acheson
Event Type Birth
Event Date Apr - Jun 1910
Event Place Cavan, Ireland
Registration Quarter and Year Apr - Jun 1910
Registration District Cavan
Volume Number 3


1911 Ballintemple, County Cavan, Ireland
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas S Acheson Head of Family M 46 Farmer. Co Cavan
Martha Acheson Wife F 32 Co Cavan
Wm Francis Acheson Son M 7 Co Cavan
Florrie Acheson Daughter F 1 Co Cavan
Thomas Acheson Uncle M 78 Retired farmer.


Have you looked-up Florence in the 1939 Register ?.

Florence Acheson, Dr Trotter, Newnham, 1950s ?

by Rasthem, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 09:13 (237 days ago) @ Jefff

Thank you Jeff for your comprehensive details of Florence Acheson and Dr Trotter. I am sorry that I may have caused some confusion by ommitting details that I had already acquired, I will make a better effort next time. Thanks.
Yes, I have checked 1939 Register, Florence is not listed.

Florence Acheson, Dr Trotter, Newnham, 1950s ?

by MPGriffiths @, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 14:01 (237 days ago) @ Rasthem

Death: March Qtr 1973, Gloucester City

Florence ACHESON - date of birth: 13 March 1910


ANCESTRY - Probate

Florence ACHESON, 44 Larchwood Drive, Gloucester
died 9 January 1973
Probate: Oxford - 25 January
£33,626

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British Phone Books

1972

F Acheson

44 Larchwood Dvjuffley (Dv, Tuffley)

Telephone No: Gloucester : 31335

Gloucester


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Also - any connection?

ACHESON J F H East Wv, South Fm : Telephone : Burbage 287

Florence Acheson, Dr Trotter, Newnham, 1950s ?

by probinson @, S. Oxon, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 16:48 (237 days ago) @ MPGriffiths

Also, L B C Trotter MD 321 Stroud Road, Gloucester in both the 62 and 63 telephone directories.

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Peter

Florence Acheson

by probinson @, S. Oxon, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 12:42 (237 days ago) @ Rasthem

She is listed at Green Acre from June 1947 onward.

Leslie Trotter is listed at the same address at the same time.

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Peter

Florence Acheson

by probinson @, S. Oxon, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 13:39 (237 days ago) @ probinson

Apparently they are still living together in 1965 in Stroud Road, Gloucester. Which contradicts the notice of his death in 1964. Maybe the poll books didn't get updated.

Here's the full notice from the Birmingham Daily Post - Monday 07 December 1964

Dr. Leslie Batten Currie Trotter. of Stroud Road, Gloucester, a well-known member of a medical family in the Forest of Dean, and for many years in practice at Ledbury, left £40,548 (£40,432 net). Duty of £11,329 has been paid. His bequests included "all my collection of dried mosses in their cabinets together with the cabinets" to the National Museum of Wales. The Herbarium, Cardiff: £1,000 to the Linnean Society and "the original work by Professor Joseph Else and myself entitled Histology of British Mosses contained in two large deed boxes: £l,000 to the British Bryological Society and "my bryological literature and library to be disposed of to members of the society or retained by the society as the executive of the society thinks best." £500 to Dr. Barnardo's Homes.

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Peter

Florence Acheson

by Rasthem, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 15:35 (237 days ago) @ probinson

Thank you for that information, I would be grateful if you could give me the source.

Florence Acheson

by probinson @, S. Oxon, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 15:45 (237 days ago) @ Rasthem

The residential information all came from the poll books of the time. All available on Ancestry if you have access though I'm not sure where else you can find them if you don't.

I couldn't find any information in poll books before 1947 so I would guess that's when Florence first appeared on the scene.

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Peter

Florence Acheson

by probinson @, S. Oxon, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 15:52 (237 days ago) @ probinson

I meant to add that Florence's estate amounted to over £30000 so I would guess she inherited most of Dr Trotter's estate.

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Peter

Florence Acheson

by Rasthem, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 16:01 (237 days ago) @ probinson

Thank you Peter. I have evidence (Kelly's Directory) that she was still at Greenacres in 1957. Re: the estate, we are in the process of obtaining copies of the Will.

Florence Acheson

by probinson @, S. Oxon, Wednesday, April 17, 2019, 16:25 (237 days ago) @ Rasthem

Yes, they were at Green Acre up to February 1958. Can't find their whereabouts between 58 and 65 though.

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Peter

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