Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Flower Brain

Flower Brain (reply)

cjtrigg — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 04:20:41 +0000

Flower Brain was the younger brother of my great-great-grandmother, Constance Eliza Brain. Constance married Jesse Trigg, and they later had a son they named Lewis Flower Trigg!

Flower BRAIN 1872 Abenhall (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:39:27 +0000

names changed ? just the way they have been transcribed from the original :-)

Flower BRAIN 1872 Abenhall (reply)

Jean Herbert — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:50:37 +0000

Once again, thanks Slowhand. I don't wonder we could not find them on later census, names have changed yet again. Pity you do not live in Yorkshire, I could make you a lovely Yorkshire Pudding for all your efforts. Regards Jean Herbert

Sulia BARNARD 1876 Abenhall ( wife of Flower BRAIN) (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:10:29 +0000

Sulia is the latin form of Julia I seem to remember, that'll fool the census taker !

Year 1875
Month Jun
Day 27

Parents Surname BARNARD
Child Forename(s) Sally Elizabeth
Father's Forename(s) William
Mother's Forename(s) Mary Ann
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence East Dean
Occupation Miner
Officiating Minister J.W. Gregg
Event type Baptism
Memoranda
Notes Childs first Christian name unclear
Register Reference P1 IN 1/8
Page No 51
Parish/Chapel Abenhall

Name: Ursula Elizabeth Barnard ???
Year of Registration: 1875
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 232

1841
Thomas Barnard abt 1811 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Barnard abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Abinghall Gloucestershire

1851 Folly Farm Abenhall
Thos Barnard abt 1809 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Abinghall Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Barnard abt 1813 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abinghall Gloucestershire
Alice Barnard abt 1847 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire
Dinah Barnard abt 1845 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire
Hannah Barnard abt 1844 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire
Henry Barnard abt 1843 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
William Barnard abt 1849 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Barnard abt 1811 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Head Abinghall Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Barnard abt 1816 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abinghall Gloucestershire
Alan Barnard abt 1857 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
Alice Barnard abt 1847 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abinghall Gloucestershire
James Barnard abt 1854 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
Michael Barnard abt 1851 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
William Barnard abt 1849 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire

Year 1870
Month Sep
Day 25

Groom Surname BARNARD
Groom Forename(s) William
Groom Age at Marriage 21
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Collier
Groom Residence East Dean
Groom Father's Surname Barnard
Groom Father's Forename(s) Thomas
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Bailiff

Bride Surname HALE
Bride Forename(s) Mary Ann
Bride Age at Marriage 19
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession [not stated]
Bride Residence East Dean
Bride Father's Surname Hale
Bride Father's Forename(s) James
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Engineer

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 Elijah Dewfield Mountjoy
Witness 2 Joych [sic] Hale
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister Tho[ma]s Gosselin Smythies
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P85/1 IN 1/5
Page No 49
Parish/Chapel Cinderford St Johns

1871 Westbury Brook nr Plump Hill
William Barnard abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Barnard abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire

1881
William Barnard abt 1850 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abinghall Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Barnard abt 1852 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter in Law Abinghall Gloucestershire
Selia Barnard abt 1876 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Abinghall Gloucestershire

1891
William Barnard abt 1850 Abenhall, Gloucestershire, England Head Abenhall Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Barnard abt 1856 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abenhall Gloucestershire
Allen Barnard abt 1874 Abenhall, Gloucestershire, England Son Abenhall Gloucestershire
Lulia Barnard abt 1876 Abenhall, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Abenhall Gloucestershire
William J Barnard abt 1872 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Abenhall Gloucestershire

Flower BRAIN 1872 Abenhall (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:01:06 +0000

Flower should be male...
< there is a Flower FISHER on the board >

Name: Flower Brain
Year of Registration: 1872
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 235

Year 1872
Month Nov
Day 3
Parents Surname BRAIN
Child Forename(s) Flower
Father's Forename(s) John
Mother's Forename(s) Melinda
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence East Dean
Occupation Miner
Officiating Minister John Senior Curate
Event type Baptism
Memoranda Son of entered after childs Christian name
Notes
Register Reference P1 IN 1/8
Page No 42
Parish/Chapel Abenhall

Name: Sulia Elizabeth Barnard
Name: Flower Brain
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 490

Year 1898
Month May
Day 29
Parents Surname BRAIN
Child Forename(s) Maurice Thomas
Father's Forename(s) Flower [?]
Mother's Forename(s) Julia
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister Thos Hireson
Event type Baptism
Memoranda son of: Born March 22 1898
Notes
Register Reference D6026 8/1
Page No 84
Parish/Chapel Mitcheldean Congregational

1901
Floner Bram abt 1874 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Sulia Bram abt 1876 Abbenhall, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Maurice Bramabt 1898 Abbenhall, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

Flower Brain

Jean Herbert — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:42:23 +0000

At the moment I have been side-tracked into the Brain family, initial research was Phelps. Came across a Flower Brain, child of John and Melinda Brain. On 1881 census the child Flower is shown as female, and also on 1891 female age 17, no occupation given.
Then found marriage record of Flower Brain married to Sulia Elizabeth Barnard in 1896 Westbury on Severn. I am totally confused as to the sex of this person, Flower being an unusual name for a male, unless of course the translation of the name has been mis-spelt. I can find no record of Flower and Sulia Elizabeth on any further census. They could of course have emigrated. Can anyone shed any light on this mystery? Regards Jean Herbert