Forest of Dean FHT Forum - George Morris Morse b1815 Yorkley, emigrant freeminer.

George Morris Morse b1815 Yorkley, emigrant freeminer. (reply)

mharawira — Sat, 27 Apr 2019 21:33:02 +0000

Thank you Jeff! I think I have it all straight now.

After my very moving visit to the FOD and Morse's Level last year, I would very much like to meet Morse relations next time I am there.
George Morse who developed Morse's Level is my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather and George Morris Morse my Gt Gt Grandfather.

Makere

George Morris Morse b1815 Yorkley, emigrant freeminer. (reply)

Jefff — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:02:35 +0000

Hi and a warm welcome to the forum and website,

First, please note that where a username is displayed in black, that denotes they're not active on the forum. Sadly this applies to JBWheat, who posted 10 years ago. It's possible she will see your post, have to wait and see. For your further info, if you click on an active username, as denoted by blue text, you can see when they last visited the forum.
Of course other users may still be able to help untangle the various George Morses, I hope so.

Ref your query about them being Freeminers; since some of this thread was posted the Freeminer Database has been added to this website, like several other excellent aspects of this great site it can be found under the "Resources" heading on the main menu bar.
For background see http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/index.php/resources/register-of-freeminers

Searching that database gives a few George Morses, especially this one as a starter;

Record_Number: 497
Forename: George Morris
Surname: MORSE
Calculated_Year_of_Birth: 1815
Age: 23
Day: 15
Month: Sep
Year: 1838
Residence: Yorkley
Remarks: America
Memorandum: America struck out possibly when book was updated
Soundex: M620

This suggests he did emigrate but perhaps not to America. This would appear to perfectly match the details within the first and second posts within this thread, and so New Zealand.

I haven't studied/understood this thread in full wrt all the various George's, but from those registered as freeminers perhaps this is his father ?,

Record_Number: 493
Forename: George
Surname: MORSE
Calculated_Year_of_Birth: 1784
Age: 54
Day: 15
Month: Sep
Year: 1838
Residence: Yorkley
Remarks:
Memorandum:
Soundex: M620

This George born about 1784 residing Yorkley appears to match the man mentioned in the third post on this thread (by Slowhands).

Hope this helps, meanwhile please do visit the many and varied sections of this website apart from the forum, it's amazing just how much is there to be found,there are various search boxes to help with this.

Parents of George Morris Morse 1815? (reply)

mharawira — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 05:35:09 +0000

oops, my mistake, thats a marriage date, not a birthdate..

Parents of George Morris Morse 1815? (reply)

mharawira — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 05:32:34 +0000

According to this, George Morse who married Ann was 8 years old when George Morris Morse was baptized.

Do we have any other George Morse married t Ann's please? Can anyone help with this?

George Morse (reply)

mharawira — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 05:23:39 +0000

Is this the George Morse who had Morse's Level???

George MORSE and Anne CLARKE (reply)

mharawira — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 05:22:25 +0000

Now I am really confused also...

George Morse and George Morris Morse (reply)

mharawira — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 05:19:50 +0000

Thank you - this information is brilliant. Have been tearing my hair out over which George is which.

I have come late to this and have been pursing the free oner connection.

I think we are still missing the link to which John and Margaret Morse is their ancestor, as I appear to have it entirely wrong.
Too many John Morses marrying Margaret Jones's in the same place..

George Morris Morse. (reply)

mharawira — Mon, 11 Jun 2018 04:42:28 +0000

Did the George Morris Morse born 1815, son of George Morse, emigrate to New Zealand and were they both free miners?
Do you have the records for these please?

George Morse baptised 21 Nov 1784 Newland Glos married Ann Morris 22nd December 1807 Lydney Glos.
Their children were: Char bap 27th Nov 1808 Lydney Glos;
Eliza bap 11 Feb 1810 Lydney;
Richard Morse bap 17th Mar 1811 Yorkley;
Henry bap 1813;
George Morse bap 14 May 1815 Lydney;
Ann Morse bap 13 July 1817 Lydney;
Charles Morse bap 4 July 1819 Lydney;
Thomas Morse bap 8 July 1821 Lydney;
Diana Morse bap 31 July 1822 Lydney and
Mary Ann Morse bap 7 Aug 1825. Have further information if required.

George MORSE and Anne CLARKE (reply)

ChrisW — Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:24:05 +0000

I will sort this out for you off board Sandra!

Chris

George MORSE and Anne CLARKE (reply)

mrsbruso — Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:15:06 +0000

Okay. Now I am completely confused. I have muddled which children belong to George Morse and Anne Clarke and which ones belong to George Morse and Ann Morris. I believe this thread shows Eliza as belonging to Ann Morris, but the George who marries Anne Clarke mentions his eldest daughter Eliza in his will.

And if the George Morse was born in 1784 in Newland marries Ann Morris, does that mean that the George Morse christened 30 Aug 1789 is the one who married Anne Clarke (c. 16 Feb 1783)? And what of George Morse c. 14 May 1758 (Blakeney).

George Morris MORSE 1815 Lydney / Blakeney /Yorkley area (reply)

ChrisW — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:20:33 +0000

The 1841 Viney Hill entry is for my ggg grandpappy George and Ann Clark.

Chris

George Morris Morse. (reply)

jbwheat — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:38:46 +0000

George Morse baptised 21 Nov 1784 Newland Glos married Ann Morris 22nd December 1807 Lydney Glos. Their children were: Char bap 27th Nov 1808 Lydney Glos; Eliza bap 11 Feb 1810 Lydney; Richard Morse bap 17th Mar 1811 Yorkley; Henry bap 1813; George Morse bap 14 May 1815 Lydney; Ann Morse bap 13 July 1817 Lydney; Charles Morse bap 4 July 1819 Lydney; Thomas Morse bap 8 July 1821 Lydney; Diana Morse bap 31 July 1822 Lydney and Mary Ann Morse bap 7 Aug 1825. Have further information if required.

Bernadette

George MORSE 1789 Lydney area (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:28:42 +0000

< this may be assosciated with George Morris MORSE - it may not >

GEORGE MORSE
----------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 30 AUG 1789 Lydney, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: RICHARD MORSE
Mother: SARAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
--------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C036172 1661 - 1740 0425460 Film 6911878 Film
C036172 1741 - 1812 0857044 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

RICHARD MORSE
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Marriages:
Spouse: SARAH WILLIAMS
Marriage: 24 NOV 1772 Awre With Blakeney, Gloucester, England
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
---------------------------------------------------------------
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M023301 1754 - 1859 0091512 Film 6911601 Film
Sheet: 00

George Morris MORSE 1815 Lydney / Blakeney /Yorkley area (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:51:06 +0000

This looks like him and there is a picture of him in the Yorkley pages of this site
He emigrated from Yorkley to New Zealand on the ‘Tip Tree’ in 1864

Year 1807
Month Dec
Day 22

Groom Surname MORSE
Groom Forename(s) George
Groom Age at Marriage
Groom condition Batchelor
Groom Rank or Profession
Groom Residence of this Parish
Groom Father's Surname
Groom Father's Forename(s)
Groom Father's Rank or Profession

Bride Surname MORRIS
Bride Forename(s) Ann
Bride Age at Marriage
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence of this Parish
Bride Father's Surname
Bride Father's Forename(s)
Bride Father's Rank or Profession

Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 William Morris
Witness 2 Susanah Wickenden
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister W[illia]m Jones curate
Event type Marriage
Memoranda Tuesday
Transcriber's Notes
Register Reference P209 IN 1/8
Page No 135
Parish/Chapel Lydney

Year 1815
Month May
Day 14
Parents Surname MORSE
Child Forename(s) George
Father's Forename(s) George
Mother's Forename(s) Ann
Mother's Surname
Place of Residence Forest of Dean
Occupation Shoemaker
Officiating Minister Wm. Jones
Event type Baptism
Memoranda Son of
Notes
Register Reference PFC 209 IN 1/3
Page No 15
Parish/Chapel Lydney

Year 1841
Month Nov
Day 13

Groom Surname MORSE
Groom Forename(s) George
Groom Age at Marriage Full
Groom condition Bachelor
Groom Rank or Profession Shoemaker
Groom Residence Newland
Groom Father's Surname Morse
Groom Father's Forename(s) George
Groom Father's Rank or Profession Shoemaker

Bride Surname BILLEY
Bride Forename(s) Martha
Bride Age at Marriage Full
Bride Condition Spinster
Bride Rank or Profession
Bride Residence St Briavels
Bride Father's Surname Billey
Bride Father's Forename(s) Isaac
Bride Father's Rank or Profession Farmer
Licence or Banns Banns
Date of banns
Signature or Mark Both sign
Witness 1 Thomas Hulin-P Clerk
Witness 2 Emma Hulin
Other witnesses
Officiating Minister [illegible]
Event type Marriage
Memoranda
Transcriber's Notes Bride signs BILLY
Register Reference P278 IN 1/12
Page No 56
Parish/Chapel St Briavels

1841 Viney Hill ???
George Morse abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
Ann Morse abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire
William Morse abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest Gloucestershire Shoe Maker

1841 Yorkley
George Moose abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Newland Gloucestershire Shoe Maker

Champion mine

8 July 1845 Granted to George Morris Morse of Yorkley for a pit on Moseley Green about 110 yards north of the Parkend - Blakeney road on the line of the Speedwell High Delf level to get coal from the Brazilly, Dog Delf, Rockey, Starkey and Parkend High Delf veins.

Pillowell Engine mine

7 February 1843 Granted a gale in unequal parts to Henry James of Whitecroft and George Morris Morse of Yorkley for a pit to the Coleford High Delf, Yorkley and Whittington veins near to the Weslyan Chapel.

1851
Geo M Morse abt 1816 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Martha Morse abt 1816 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles B Morse abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Julia E Morse abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Sarah Jayselle abt 1787 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Aunt West Dean Gloucestershire

1861
George Morris Morse abt 1816 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Martha Morse abt 1816 Brcom Parish Newland Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles Moress Morse abt 1843 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Juliana Morse abt 1845 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire

George Morris Morse.

lofty93 — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 12:22:41 +0000

I found this death notice in the North Otago Times, New Zealand,newspaper of 26th March 1872, page 2, column B:-
"On the 21st March, at Oamaru, in the 57th year of his age, Mr. George Morris MORSE, formerly of Dean Forest, England."

He would appear to be the son of George Morse & Ann Morris of Lydney, married 1807.

The newspaper is available on our NZ Natioal Library site -

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Hope this is of use to someone.
Brian.