Many many thanks
Jane

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
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Marriages Dec 1919 (>99%)
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CUNNINGHAM Margaret E Merthyr T 11a 2000
Toombs Samuel W Merthyr T 11a 2000

Birth, FreeBDM

Ireen M H TOOMBES, O/ND Qtr 1920 Pontypridd, mother's maiden name CUNNINGHAM

Baptism: 21 May 1894 St Nicholas, Halewood, Lancashire, England
Alfred James Toombes - [Child] of Alfred James Toombes & Mary
Born: 21 Mar 1894
Abode: Halewood
Occupation: Labourer
Baptised by: H. Gibson Smith Rector
Register: Baptisms 1870 - 1928, Page 119, Entry 869
Source: LDS Film 2147880

wife:-

Name: Elsie Gertrude Morrell
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: East Stonehouse
County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 299

1901
Samuel Morrell abt 1847 Birdgwator, Somerset, England Head East Stonehouse, Devon
Elizabeth Morrell abt 1867 Stonehouse, Devon, England Wife East Stonehouse, Devon
Louisa Morrell abt 1890 Stonehouse, Devon, England Daughter East Stonehouse, Devon
Elsie Morrell abt 1893 Stonehouse, Devon, England Daughter East Stonehouse, Devon
Beatrice Slocarbe abt 1894 Stonehouse, Devon, England Niece East Stonehouse, Devon

Name: Elsie G Morrell
Name: Alfred J Toombes
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1916
Registration district: Devonport
Registration county (inferred): Devonshire
Volume Number: 5b
Page Number: 740

children:-

Elsie M Toombes Oct Nov Dec 1916 Pontypridd Wales
Winefred M Toombes Jan Feb Mar 1920 Pontypridd Wales
Molly E Toombes Jul Aug Sep 1921 Pontypridd Wales

Name: Alfred J Toombes
Death Registration Month/Year: 1923
Age at death (estimated): 29
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 440

eldest daughter :-

Name: Elsie M Toombs
Spouse William J M Gardner
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1946
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration county (inferred): Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 8c
Page Number: 287

Name: Elsie M Gardener
Death Registration Month/Year: 1952
Age at death (estimated): 35
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 8b
Page: 383

second daughter marriage :-

Name: Winifred M Toombs
Spouse : Thomas N Olsen
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1943
Registration district: Bedwellty
Registration county (inferred): Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 157

<><><> possible remarriage for Alfred's Widow

Name: Elsie G Toombes
Spouse: David C Paul
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1929
Registration district: Williton
Registration county (inferred): Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 545

Name: Olive M Paul
Mother's Maiden Surname: Morrell
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1931
Registration district: Williton
Registration county: Devon/Cornwall/Seilly. Dorset/Somerset
Volume Number: 5c
Page Number: 319

Name: Elsie Gertrude Paul
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1892
Death Registration Month/Year: 1972
Registration district: Exmoor
Inferred County: Somerset
Volume: 7c
Page: 1099

Birth

Mary DROMEY
District: Crickenhowell (which covers Brynmawr)

A/M/J Qtr 1863

Volume 11b

Page 140

Birth:

Margaret DOWNEY
District: Crickenhowell

J/F/M Qtr 1866

Volume 11b

Page: 129

Birth:

John DOWNEY
District: Crickenhowell

J/A/S Qtr 1869

grand daughter:-

after 1911 cencus

Name: Phyllis M T Davies
Estimated birth year: abt 1911
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 0
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 256

Name: Phyllis M T Davies
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 526

her paternal line:-

1851 Mathry Pembs ??
Henry Davies 53
Mary Davies 53
Mary Davies 12
George Davies 9
Henry Davies 3
William Davies 1 Grandchild

1861 ???
Martha Davies abt 1829 Mathry, North Korea Head Granston, Pembrokeshire
William Davies abt 1850 Mathry, North Korea Son Granston, Pembrokeshire
Ely Davies abt 1852 Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales Daughter Granston, Pembrokeshire
Henry Davies abt 1854 St Nicholas, Pembrokeshire, Wales Son Granston, Pembrokeshire
Mary Davies abt 1856 St Nicholas, Pembrokeshire, Wales Daughter Granston, Pembrokeshire

1881
William Davies abt 1848 Mathry, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margt. Davies abt 1851 Rhybas..., Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
David Jas. Davies . abt 1876 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Martha Ja. Davies abt 1878 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
Henry John Davies Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan

1891
William Davies abt 1852 Mathry (Mathri), Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margaret Davies abt 1852 Rhibersen, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
David James Davies abt 1877 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Martha Jane Davies abt 1878 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
Henry John Davies abt 1881 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Mary Ann Davies abt 1883 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
William Francis Davies abt 1886 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Benjamin Arthur Davies abt 1889 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margaret Laura Davies abt 1891 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan

1901
William Davis abt 1851 Fishguard, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Margaret Davis abt 1852 Llandore, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Martha Jane Davis abt 1879 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Henry John Davis abt 1881 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Mary Ann Davis abt 1883 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Willie France Davis abt 1886 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Benj Arthur Davis abt 1889 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Maggie Laura Davis abt 1891 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Eglwysilan, Glamorgan
Annie Maria Davis abt 1893 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Eglwysilan, Glamorgan

Name: Benjamin Arthur Davies
Name: Margaret Downey ?
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 953

possible death ?
Name: Margaret Davies
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 21
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 359
or
Name: Margaret H Davies
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 19
District: Pontypridd
County: Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 348

Who is Margaret DOWNEY (1889/92) ??
I'd be happier if it was Mary TOOMBS 1889 !!

then I stumble upon ( recalling a reference to Llanelly):-

1881
Catherine Downey abt 1831 Ireland Head Llanelly, Breconshire
Mary Downey abt 1863 Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llanelly, Breconshire
Margaret Downey abt 1866 Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales Daughter Llanelly, Breconshire
John Downey abt 1870 Brynmawr, Breconshire, Wales Son Llanelly, Breconshire
Ellen Heahing abt 1801 Ireland Sister Llanelly, Breconshire

1871 Brynmawr, Llanelly
Catherine Dardy 35 Ireland
Mary Dardy 8 Brynmawr
Margaret Dardy 5 Brynmawr
John Dardy 2 Brynmawr
Ellen Hatton 71 Ireland

Is Mary DOWNEY 1863 the future Mary TOOMBS ?

Name: Margaret Elizabeth Cunningham
Year of Registration: 1894
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 705

<><><> mother (sister / sister in law / etc to Alfred or Mary TOOMBES

The widowed (?) Elizabeth CUNNINGHAM nee TREHARNE remarries:-

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Cunningham Elizabeth Merthyr T. 11a 1116
Evans William Merthyr T. 11a 1116

her first marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Sep 1882 (>99%)
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Cunningham John Merthyr Tydfil 11a 685
Treharne Elizabeth Merthyr T. 11a 685

1871 Aberdare
Thomas Morgan 26
Margaret Morgan 35 Llandefeilog, Carmarthenshire,
John Treharne 14
Evan Treharne 11
Elizabeth Treharne 9
Mary Ann Morgan 3 Months
David John 23
Mary Twigg 19

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1870 (>99%)
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Morgan Thomas Merthyr Tydfil 11a 501
TREHARNE Margaret Merthyr T 11a 501

Name: Elizabeth Treharne
Year of Registration: 1862
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Merthyr Tydfil
County: Breconshire, Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan
Volume: 11a
Page: 346

1861
Thomas Treharne abt 1832 Llandyfodwg, Carmarthenshire, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margaret Treharne abt 1834 Llangydeirn, Carmarthenshire, Wales Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
John Treharne abt 1856 Llandyfalog, Carmarthenshire, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Evan Treharne abt 1859 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Samuel Sussex abt 1793 Sarenton, Devon, England Lodger Aberdare, Glamorgan
William Edwards abt 1839 Stef Parish, Pembrokeshire, Wales Lodger Aberdare, Glamorgan

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Dec 1855 (>99%)
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LEWIS Margaret Carmarthen 11a 1057
TREHARNE Thomas Carmarthen 11a 1057

{The CUNNINGHAM surname could lead to Irish roots ..

maybe a Catholic marriage and why it seems to be obscure at the moment.}

Maggie M CUNNINGHAM age 17 born Aberdare

1901 Wales Census
Glamorgan

William EVANS, age 35, born Swansea, Glamorgan
Elizabeth EVANS, age 38, born Aberdare, Glamorgan
Margaret MORGAN - age 67 mother - born NK Caernarvonshire
Thomas John CUNNINGHAM - age 15 - born Aberdare, Glamorgan
Maggie M CUNNINGHAM - age 7 - born Aberdare, Glamorgan

1891 Census, Glamorgan, Fforchaman

John CUNNINGHAM age 32
Elizabeth CUNNINGHAM - 29
Thomas John CUNNINGHAM age 5

a Mary born approx 1863 in Penygraig / Ystradyfodwg area
( or Lannelli , just into Carmarthenshire, or Llanelly Brecon - towards Crickhowell!)
&
Family settles back in Pontypridd area
&
married for 22/33 years in 1911
& first child Mary A born Tupsley HEREF approx 1889

a contender for first child :-
Name: May Hannah Tombs
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Hereford
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Monmouthshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 466

leading to :-

a 10-20 mile span along the Heads of the Vallies around Ebbw Vale / Merthyr.

Penygraig near Tonypandy as a favoured location

FreeBMD has approx 200 Mary's registered in Pontypridd area for 1862-1864
Ancestry 1871 has approx 130 Mary's in Ystradyfodwg area
There are 13 districts and sub districts covering the Ystradyfodwg area in 1871 census

TOMBS

Joseph - Wid 54 - Sheppard, born Dymock Gloucestershire
Ellen - daughter, unmarried, age 20 - born Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Charles - son - age 16- Ag. Lab. born Preston, Gloucestershire
James - 14 - born Dymock Glos
Harry- 12 - born Dymock Glos
Elizabeth - 11 - born Dymock Glos
Sarah - 9 - born Dymock Glos
Louisa - Grand dau - 7 - born Dymock Glos
Earnest W - Grandson - 4 - born Dymock Glos

If you obtained one of the children's christening records

for example

Samuel William TOOMBES - J/A/S Qtr 1896

this would give the mother's maiden name

two of the children's baptism are on the net (Alfred James 1894 & Samuel William 1896)

1890-1909 Lancashire Online Parish Clerk Project (tried to do the link... )

Baptisms at St Nicholas, in the District of Halewood, Liverpool - 21 May 1894 (born 21 March 1894)

Alfred James TOOMBES
child of Alfred James TOOMBES (labourer) and Mary
baptised by : H GIBSON SMITH, Rector

and

6 September 1896 - Samuel William TOOMBES, bor 17 July 1896 (same details as above)

Name: Alfred J Toombes
Death Registration Month/Year: 1928
Age at death (estimated): 61
Registration district: Pontypridd
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 604

1911
TOOMBES ALFRED JAMES M 1867 44 Pontypridd Glamorganshire born Glos.
TOOMBES MARY F 1863 48 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
TOOMBES SAMUEL WILLIAM M 1897 14 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
TOOMBES ALFRED JAMES M 1894 17 Pontypridd Glamorganshire
DAVIES BENJAMIN ARTHUR M 1889 22 Pontypridd Glamorganshire son in law Widowed
DAVIES PHYLLIS MAY TOOMBES F 1910 4 MONTHS Pontypridd Glamorganshire
CUNNINGHAM MAGGIE ELIZABETH F 1894 17 Pontypridd Glamorganshire Niece

1901
Alfred J Toombes abt 1868 Halewood Green, Gloucestershire, England Head Halewood, Lancashire
Mary Toombes abt 1863 Llanelly, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Halewood, Lancashire
Mary Toombes abt 1889 Tepsley, Herefordshire, England Daughter Halewood, Lancashire
Alfred J Toombes abt 1894 Halewood, Lancashire, England Son Halewood, Lancashire
Samuel W Toombes abt 1897 Halewood, Lancashire, England Son Halewood, Lancashire

1891
Alfred Toombs abt 1867 Gloster, Dymock Head Halewood, Lancashire Ag Lab
Mary Toombs abt 1863 Penyeraig, Glamorgan, Wales Wife Halewood, Lancashire
Mary A Toombs abt 1890 Tupley, Herefordshire, England Daughter Halewood, Lancashire
Thomas Atherton abt 1843 Kirkby, Lancashire, England Boarder Halewood, Lancashire
Peter Roberts abt 1844 Aberystwith, Cardiganshire, Wales Boarder Halewood, Lancashire

Tupsley , Herefordshire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/HEF/HamptonBishop/Littlebury1876.html

TUPSLEY, a township in the parish of Hampton Bishop, hundred of Grimsworth, county Hereford, 1½ mile S.E. of Hereford, its post town, and 2½ miles N.W. of Hampton Bishop

<><><> now comes the detective work !

Hallwood Green. DYMOCK. GL18 2EE -- so like Halewood, Liverpool:-)

Year: 1872
Month: Oct
Day: 16
Surname: TOOMBS
Forenames: Sarah
Residence: Halwood Green
Age_at_death: 44
Officiating_Minister: W C S Newbolt vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/31
Page_No: 25
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

<><><> leading to

1881
Joseph Tombs abt 1827 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Dymock, Gloucestershire
Ellen Tombs abt 1861 Much Marcle, Hereford, England Daughter Dymock, Gloucestershire
Charles Tombs abt 1865 Preston, Gloucestershire, England Son Dymock, Gloucestershire
James Tombs abt 1867 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son Dymock, Gloucestershire
Henry Tombs abt 1869 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Son Dymock, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Tombs abt 1870 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Dymock, Gloucestershire
Sarah Tombs abt 1872 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Dymock, Gloucestershire
Louisa Tombs abt 1874 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Dymock, Gloucestershire
Earnest W. Tombs abt 1877 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Dymock, Gloucestershire

1871 Halwood Green
Joseph Tombs 47 Dymock
Sarah Tombs 47 Putley
Ellen Tombs 20 Much Marcle
Fanny Tombs 11 Dymock
Emma Tombs 3 Dymock
Charles Tombs 6 Dymock
James Tombs 5 Dymock
William Tombs 3 Dymock
Elizabeth Tombs 1 Dymock

Year: 1867
Month: Nov
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: TOMBS
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Dymock
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: A Newton
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P256 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 44
Parish_Chapel: Preston by Ledbury

1861
Joseph Jambs abt 1828 Dymock, Gloucestershire, England Head Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Sarah Jambs abt 1824 Putley, Herefordshire, England Wife Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Ellen Jambs abt 1852 M Marcle, Herefordshire, England Daughter Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Eliza Jambs abt 1855 M Marcle, Herefordshire, England Daughter Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Fanny Jambs abt 1860 M Marcle, Herefordshire, England Daughter Much Marcle, Herefordshire

1851
Joseph Tombs abt 1819 Much Marcle, Herefordshire, England Head Much Marcle, Herefordshire
Sarah Tombs abt 1829 Putley, Herefordshire, England Wife Much Marcle,

Name: Sarah Acton
Name: Joseph Tombs
Year of Registration: 1850
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Ledbury
County: Herefordshire, Hereford and Worcester, Worcestershire
Volume: 26
Page: 265

1841
Joseph Tombs abt 1829 Marcle Much, Herefordshire

1841
Robert Heyward abt 1801 Herefordshire, England Putley, Herefordshire
Harriet Acton abt 1798 Putley, Herefordshire
Sarah Acton abt 1830 Herefordshire, England Putley, Herefordshire

SARAH ACTON
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 06 JUN 1830 Putley, Hereford, England

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Parents:
Father: JOHN ACTON
Mother: HARRIET
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C139891 1662 - 1863 0992390 Film 6900294 Film
Sheet: 00

Year: 1826
Month: Apr
Day: 30
Parents_Surname: TOMBS
Child_Forenames: Joseph
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hallwood Green
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/14
Page_Number: 81
Parish_Chapel: Dymock

I believe I have ruled out the Halewood option although two of his sons were born there and records back this up. So i am left with Dymock but have failed to find a birth/baptism record. If anyone can shed any light on this I would really appreciate it.

Other info relating to him:

Married Mary ? around 1888 (as per 1911 census)
Had three living children: Alfred James b. 1894, Mary b. 1889 and Samuel William b. 1896.
I have found him on the 1891 (Halewood), 1901 (Halewood) and 1911 (Glamorgan) census only.
Died 1928 Pontypridd, Glamorgan.

Any help appreciated - my aim is to find his birth/baptism date/location so I can order the certificate and find his parents etc and go back further in the family.

Thanks in advance
Jane