Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Rosina Ann THOMPSON nee SAYSELL 1864

Rosina Ann THOMPSON nee SAYSELL 1864 (reply)

LJT — Fri, 16 Nov 2012 08:53:49 +0000

Hi Spike
Good to hear from you again. We figured that Stanley was not brilliant husband material but at least he adds a bit of colour to the family tree. Am quite charmed to come from the black sheep branch myself! Would love to see the pics. My email address is thompsonstwo AT icloud.com. Kind regards, Lisa

Rosina Ann THOMPSON nee SAYSELL 1864 (reply)

spike — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:16:46 +0000

Hi Lisa, Great to hear from you, thanks for the information. The information about Stanley stacks up with what I've found out or heard about him. As far as my Mum is concerned she was always told by my Granny (Dorothy) that Stanley was the 'black sheep' of the family. I hadn't heard the detail about Dorothy sending the hotel bill to your Dad, but then I suppose my side of the family wouldn't be likely to relate that tale!
Christopher Thompson, out in New Zealand, was kind enough to get in touch with me (almost exactly a year ago) and if my genealogy is correct, he must be your brother. He sent me a photo of your dad in his naval uniform. Please pass on my regards to your brother and your Dad.
If you'd like to give me your email address I can send you scanned photos of Dorothy, and of Rosina.
All the very best, Spike (Neil)

Dorothy K G Bond nee ROBINSON nee THOMPSON 1897 (reply)

LJT — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:37:44 +0000

Thanks for the info. Poor old Stanley. Couldn't work out when you were born but I'm a novice at this.

Dorothy K G BOND nee ROBINSON nee THOMPSON 1897-1979 (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:31:47 +0000

Name: Dorothy Kathleen G Thompson
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 255

Name: Dorothy K G Thompson & Robert Robinson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1920
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 674

ROBINSON Robert
THOMPSON Dorothy Kathleen Gladys
Forest of Dean Cinderford Woodside St Stephen
1920 2 165

Year: 1920
Month: Nov
Day: 27
Grooms_Surname: ROBINSON
Grooms_Forenames: Robert
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Steel Worker
Grooms_Residence: Pontypool Road Panteg
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Robinson
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Frederick William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Steel Worker
Brides_Surname: THOMPSON
Brides_Forenames: Dorothy Kathleen Gladys
Brides_Age: 23
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Church Road Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Thompson
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Arthur
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Commercial Traveller
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Thomas Robinson
Witness_2: Rose Ann Roberts
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: HM Biddell Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 83
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen

BOND Herbert Grove
ROBINSON Dorothy Kathleen Gladys
Forest of Dean Cinderford St John the Evangelist
1924 3 471

BOND Herbert Grove
THOMPSON Dorothy Kathleen Gladys
Forest of Dean Cinderford St John the Evangelist
1924 3 471

Year: 1924
Month: Sep
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: BOND
Grooms_Forenames: Herbert Grove
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Builder
Grooms_Residence: New St[reet] Tiddington Stratford on Avon
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Bond
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Edward Barnes
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Deceased
Brides_Surname: ROBINSON
Brides_Forenames: Dorothy Kathleen Gladys
Brides_Age: 26
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Cinderford
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Thompson
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Arthur
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Deceased
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Sign
Witness_1: Rosena Ann Roberts
Witness_2: Harry Needle
Other_Witnesses: Stanley Thompson
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 236
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

Barbara R E Bond Jul-Aug-Sep 1926 Stratford Warwickshire
Ruth Bond Oct-Nov-Dec 1933 Stratford Warwickshire

Name: Herbert G Bond
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1963
Age at Death: 62
Registration district: Stratford-upon-Avon
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 871

Name: Herbert Grove Bond
Probate Date: 9 Oct 1963
Death Date: 8 Aug 1963
Death Place: Stratford upon Avon
Registry: Birmingham, England
BOND Herbert Grove of 29 New St Liddington Stratford
on Avon died 8th August 1963 probate to
Dorothy Kathleeen Gladys Bond Widow and
Edward Stanley Bond Technical representative

Effects £4,738 6s

Name: Dorothy Kathleen G Bond
Birth Date: 22 Jan 1897
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1979
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Stratford-upon-Avon
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 31
Page: 0393

Stanley H F C THOMPSON 1900 - 1958 Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:22:23 +0000

Hi Spike
Rosina Ann Thompson was my great grandmother. My grandfather was Stanley, who died in the 1950s before I was born. I don't know much about Arthur but my Dad seemed to think he (or possibly his dad) came from Breadalbane, which was the lower part of the Scottish Highlands. Stanley's birth certificate has him down as a commission agent, which I think meant he just set up deals. Stanley married my grandmother in Northampton then they moved to London, where he was the chemist running Boots in The Angel, Islington. My dad, Peter, was born in 1928 and they moved six years later to Market Harborough where Stanley managed a larger branch of Boots. He and my grandmother divorced, though I'm not sure when and he died in a hotel in the 1950s. Dorothy sent the bill on to my dad, which went down like a bucket of sick I gather. Dad had by then emigrated to New Zealand to join the Royal Navy and had just married my mum. Dad is still alive but very frail. If you have any questions I'll email him. He still lives out there but I've lived in the UK since 1979.
Kind regards, Lisa

Name: Stanley H F C Thompson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1900
Registration district: Westbury on Severn
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 290

Name: Stanley H F C Thompson & Doris Pratt
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1926
Registration district: Northampton
Inferred County: Northamptonshire
Volume Number: 3b
Page Number: 95

Name: Peter H O A Thompson
Mother's Maiden Surname: Pratt
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1928
Registration district: Pancras
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 116

Name: Stanley H F C Thompson
Birth Date: abt 1901
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 104

Rosina Ann THOMPSON nee SAYSELL 1864 (reply)

LJT — Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:28:20 +0000

Hi Spike
Rosina Ann Thompson was my great grandmother. My grandfather was Stanley, who died in the 1950s before I was born. I don't know much about Arthur but my Dad seemed to think he (or possibly his dad) came from Breadalbane, which was the lower part of the Scottish Highlands. Stanley's birth certificate has him down as a commission agent, which I think meant he just set up deals. Stanley married my grandmother in Northampton then they moved to London, where he was the chemist running Boots in The Angel, Islington. My dad, Peter, was born in 1928 and they moved six years later to Market Harborough where Stanley managed a larger branch of Boots. He and my grandmother divorced, though I'm not sure when and he died in a hotel in the 1950s. Dorothy sent the bill on to my dad, which went down like a bucket of sick I gather. Dad had by then emigrated to New Zealand to join the Royal Navy and had just married my mum. Dad is still alive but very frail. If you have any questions I'll email him. He still lives out there but I've lived in the UK since 1979.
Kind regards, Lisa

Rosina Ann SAYSALL 1864 prior thread (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 21:28:54 +0000

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=14320

update merged with that thread

Ellen Saysell daughter of Samuel and Harriett Saysell (reply)

spike — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 20:58:33 +0000

Hi, Rosina Ann Saysell was my grandmother, and I can remember her sister Emma (my great-aunt Em). I may have a scanned photo of these 2 (your great-aunts) if you're interested. I would welcome any info you've come across about Rosina Ann. Like you, I have her in various censuses, but can find no marriage certificate for her with Arthur Thompson. I agree with Harriet and Samuel as great-grandparents. All the best, spike

Ellen Saysell daughter of Samuel and Harriett Saysell (reply)

norastrand — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:05:13 +0000

THANK YOU!!!!

Ellen Saysell daughter of Samuel and Harriett Saysell (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:22:02 +0000

Looking at the actual typewritten entry from the birth entry register SAYSEL Ellen

Ellen SAYSELL 1877 Cinderford / Westbury on Severn (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:13:36 +0000

Year: 1861
Month: Jan
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: SAYSEL
Grooms_Forenames: Samuel
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: East Dean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Saysel
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Brides_Surname: KIBBLE
Brides_Forenames: Harriett
Brides_Age: 25
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: East Dean
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Kibble
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs She marks
Witness_1: Mark of George Roberts
Witness_2: Alice Brinten [?]
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Gosselin Smythies
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 171
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

Name: Rosina Ann Saysall
Year of Registration: 1864
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 214

Name: Clara Saysal
Year of Registration: 1866
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 199

Name: Eliza Saysall
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 235

1871
Samuel Saysell 34
Harriet Saysell 34
Ann Saysell 6
Clara Saysell 4
Eliza Saysell 2

Name: Ellen Say*L
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 253

SAYSEL Ellen
SAYSEL KIBBLE
1877 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn,
Newnham 42 344

1881
Samuel Saysell abt 1837 Littledean (East Dean), Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Harriet Saysell abt 1836 Wesybury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Clara Saysell abt 1867 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Eliza Saysell abt 1869 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Ellen Saysell abt 1878 Cinderford Daughter Flaxley, Gloucestershire
Eliza Saysell abt 1812 Littledean Mother Flaxley, Gloucestershire

Name: Emma Saysell
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 239

1891
Samuel Saysell abt 1837 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriett Saysell abt 1836 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ellen Saysell abt 1876 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emma Saysell abt 1882 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Eliza Saysell abt 1812 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Mother East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Samuel Saysell
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 55
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 178

1901 Forest Rd Cindeford
Harriet Saysell abt 1837 Elton, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Widow
Emma Saysell abt 1882 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rose Thompson abt 1865 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire Married
Arthur Thompson abt 1896 Bristol Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire
Dorothy Thompson abt 1897 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Stanley Thompson abt 1900 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire
Walter Howell abt 1901 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Grandson East Dean, Gloucestershire

Name: Harriet Saysell
Estimated birth year: abt 1836
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 66
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 180

1911
TOMPSON ROSE F 1865 46 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
THOMPSON DOROTHY F 1897 14 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
THOMPSON STANLEY M 1901 10 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire
TOGRELL EMMAN F 1882 29 Westbury on Severn Gloucestershire Emma SAYSELL !

Ellen Saysell daughter of Samuel and Harriett Saysell (reply)

norastrand — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 16:59:48 +0000

My grandmother Ellen (later known as Helen) SAYSELL was born in about 1877 and appears on the 1881 and 1891 census records. Her sisters were Rosina Ann, Clara, Eliza and Emma. I can find the record of my grandmothers marriage in Egypt in 1901 but can find no trace of her birth certificate or baptism. Can anyone help please?

Arthur THOMPSON 1877 United States; commercial traveller (reply)

spike — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:29:18 +0000

Again you've found the same info as me, which makes it doubtful (though not impossible) that by 1901 this Arthur H Thompson he was remarried to Rosina/Rose, with an eldest child born in 1896...
I suppose I'd been hoping for details of a marriage between Rosina/Rose and Arthur, but it looks like I'll just have to keep looking....
Thanks, spiike.

Arthur THOMPSON 1877 United States; commercial traveller (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:54:26 +0000

its possible -that he appears with wife and children in 1891

1891
Arthur H Thompson abt 1859 Nottinghamshire, England Head St Mary, Nottinghamshire
Elizabeth Thompson abt 1859 Nottinghamshire, England Wife St Mary, Nottinghamshire
Anna Thompson abt 1888 Nottinghamshire, England Daughter St Mary, Nottinghamshire
Charles Thompson abt 1890 Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary, Nottinghamshire
Henry Thompson abt 1883 Nottinghamshire, England Son St Mary, Nottinghamshire

Arthur THOMPSON 1877 United States; commercial traveller (reply)

spike — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 03:27:36 +0000

Hi, You've certainly picked up the same Rose/Rosina as I have for 1891 & 1901, which is great. Unfortunately, I have some doubts about your proposed Arthur Thompson, as he is shown as single in 1901 census, and only aged 24 (Rosina would have been 36/7). An alternative may be an Arthur H Thompson, married boarder & traveller in Castlegate, York in 1901 census. Birthplace Nottingham, age 41 in 1901. Any supporting confirmation or rebuttal would be welcome, nice though it would have been to have a US ancestral link. Thanks, spike.

Arthur THOMPSON 1877 United States; commercial traveller (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 21:32:13 +0000

1901 Victoria House, Bath Parade , Redcliffe, South Bristol
Arthur Thompson abt 1877 United States Visitor Bristol, Gloucestershire Commercial Traveller

may fit with

Name: Rosanna A Thompson (??)
Death Registration Month/Year: 1947
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 545

Year: 1947
Month: Jan
Day: 14
Surname: THOMPSON
Forenames: Rosanna Anderson
Residence: The Cross Little Dean Glos
Age_at_death: 80
Officiating_Minister: George E Hubbard Rector
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/14
Page_No: 32
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

seems a better fit with :-

1911
THOMPSON ARTHUR M 1875 36 Bristol Gloucestershire Traveller

Name: Stanley H F C Thompson
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 290

Name: Dorothy Kathleen G Thompson
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 255

Name: Arthur Gordon Thompson
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 9
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: [30]6

1891
Rosina Ann Saysell abt 1865 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Servant Cheltenham, Gloucestershire

SAYSALL Rosina Ann
SAYSALL KIBBLE
1864 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 24 466

Rosina (Rose) Ann Saysell b. 1864, Little Dean

spike — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 06:46:59 +0000

Hi, I'm looking specifically for the marriage of Rosina (Rose) Ann Saysell to Arthur Thompson (commercial traveller). The marriage was presumably no later than 1896 (birth of their 1st son, also Arthur Thompson). Rosina (my great grand-mother) was the daughter of Samuel Saysell and Harriet Kibble (m. 26 January 1861). Any other info. on these Saysells would, of course, also be welcome. Thanks.