Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Gethin family of Chapel Hill

Gethin family of Chapel Hill (reply)

Lisa Astley — Wed, 26 Sep 2012 22:03:07 +0000

Hi all
looking for informaion on my family the Gethin's from Chapel Hill, Tintern. I know that they lived in that area about 1780's before moving to Newport. They ran the river boats and where iron merchants George Gething Married mary Jacob in Bristol in 1790's but believe Mary lived in the area not Bristol. I have followed the family through to Newport where the Grandson Robert became Dock Master. I have strong believe that they have connections with the sea and local public houses as when they lived in Newport. I have looked on the Parish records and my family can be found through the baptisms to 1739 but would love to know where they lived ect and where they may have been burried.

Thank you

Lisa

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

unknown — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:07:27 +0000

Hi Thanks for your reply. I believe that is my daughter doing her research. I have got a little bit futher than her. Where I recently looked through the old bonds and wills and have found George and Hester the next generation.But I can find any marriage dating about 1763 onwards

Thanks for your help.

Gething family (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:54:14 +0000

Have you searched the forum for previous threads (there are quite a few including)

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=24899

Gething family (reply)

unknown — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 21:34:05 +0000

Good Evening all

I was wondering if anyone would have any information of the Gething family from Tintern. I have my 6th great gran as being Ester/Hester ? who married George Gething ( there are another couple being George and Mary from Tintern) I have their children George Robert, James and Littleton ? from 1765 onwards I have their christening from chappel hill and Chepstow but unable to find a marriage for Ester and George. where would I look next I have tried Newport and Itton.

Best wishes and thank you for reading

Lisa

Gething family and Baptist causes (reply)

Astley 7 — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 06:48:32 +0000

Hi Mark

Thanks so very much, I would love the images that would be so kind. I went in search of the gravestones earlier this year at St Woolos, But ran out of time on the Gethings. I was looking for the Swaffin/Patterson (Mary Ann Daughter and Son In Law to George graves who I could find.) That is so kind willing to share the images, Thank you. Are you a relation of the the Gethings?. Would you have also the plot numbers or where they are situated in St Woolos. I know that they may have been removed from the church yard of St Woolos to make way for the road around the church but there does not seem to be reords of the removals. This is very exciting thanks again

Best wishes
Lisa

Gething family and Baptist causes (reply)

Mark Hewinson — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:47:23 +0000

Dear Person
I live locally to St Woolos cemetery, Newport. Regarding your mention of the 2 daughters of George Gething (1798-1867), namely Mary (b.19 Jun 1827) and Jane (born 16 Dec 1828), who both died in 1842, they are buried in St Woolos cemetery alongside George Gething, his eldest son George Barclay Gething & Jane, wife and the mother. I have images of the headstones if you are interested.
Mark Hewinson.

William GETHING 1803 Ystradgynlais, BRE (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:28:41 +0000

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/Ystradgynlais/index.html

1851
William Gething abt 1803 Ystradgunlais, Breconshire, Wales Head Horningsham, Wiltshire Ind Minister
Elizabeth Gething abt 1791 Lampeter, Pembrokeshire, Wales Wife Horningsham, Wiltshire

William GETHING (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 16:06:09 +0000

1841 Census, Christchurch, Monmouthshire
Caerleon

William GETHING - age 35, Minister, not born in County
Elizabeth GETHING - age 55 - not born in County

(West Common alias Chapel Street)

Rev William GETHING

Horningsham Independent Chapel, the oldest free Church in England

http://www.themansfields.org.uk/horingsham.htm

Talks about Rev William GETHING was chosen by the Church to be their Pastor in 1848, .......... remained until his death in 1858 - interred in the Graveyard.

Gething family and Baptist causes (reply)

wbellin — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:49:00 +0000

Many thanks for so much on the family. I notice that the minister who christened Ann Gething daughter of James Gething and Mary in 1833 was Rev. Thomas Thomas. According to an 1871 history of the Independents in Wales (Hanes Eglwysi Annibynol Cymru), Rev. Benjamin Evans followed Thomas Thomas as minister and finally William Gethin (Gething on Caerleon.net) who came from Bristol. On Caerleon.net the christening by William Gething was that of Richard James in 1836. According to the 1871 history, William Gething sold the old chapel and built a new one, but there was reliance on a loan which was made by Mrs Powell, widow of a Mr T Powell. In her will she left that money to a nephew and on her death the nephew took possession of the chapel and locked it up. With this the cause failed. The history does not say what happened to Rev. William Gething.

GETHING - Newport (reply)

Astley 7 — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:49:22 +0000

Hi I am the 5th Great grand daughter of a Mary Ann Gething who is the Sister of George Gething. Parents George Gething and Mary Gething Nee Jacob of Chepstow. I have George Gething Jnr born in 1801 Chepstow baptism Dec 1801 Married Jane Evans born in 1805. george Died I believe in 1867 I hope we have the same family.
Best wishes
Lisa

GETHING - Newport (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:06:05 +0000

Caerleon Net - Caerleon Village Baptisms 1826-1836 Independent chapel

Ann GETHING daughter of James GETHING & Mary from Christchurch, Monmouth, born 29 Februrary 1833 - bap 16 March 1833

1836 - Minister: William GETHING

http://www.caerleon.net/history/records/village/baptisms/date1826.htm

FOD records - previous message

Geo GETHING - 31.12.1801, parents Geo & Mary GETHING - Chepstow, Monmouth (also Robert - 1806) mentioned in GB0218D.298 - see end of this message.

1841 Census, Newport, District 5
Commercial Street

Geo GETHING - age 40 - born in County
Jane GETHING - 35 - born in County
Geo. B GETHING - 15 - born in County
Jane M GETING - 12 - born in County
Harriet LANE - 25, Governess, not born in County
Mary THOMAS - 25, Servant, not born in County
Elizabeth JAMES - 25 - born in County

George GETHING married Jane EVANS (Astley7)

1841 Census, Monmouth, Marshfield

Amy EVANS - 65 - Independent, (all born in County)
Elizabeth EVANS - 25
Mary GETHING - 13/15
Ann DAVIES - 15 - female servant

1851 Census, Monmouthshire, St Woollos, District 1m

Geo GETHING - Mar 52 - Shipping Agent, born Monmouthshire Caerleon
Jane GETHING - 46 - born ditto
Geo GETHING - 25, Iron Merchant, born Newport
Edward L GETING - 20 - Shipping Agent
Jane JENKINS - age 7, Niece, born Glam. Cardiff
Elizabet RUSSEN? Seamstress, age 25, born Monmouthshire, Newport
Mary A GIBSON - 24 - Cook
Ann STOLER? 24, Housemaid, London
John FRANCIS - 21, Groom, born Monmouthshire, Christchurch

1861 Census, Monmouthshire, Newport St Woollos, Distrcit 22

Springfield House

George GETHING Esq. 62, Magistrate, born Monmouthshire, Christchurch
Jane GETHING age 56, born Llanvahfolyfe Upper, Monmouthshire
George B GETHING - unmarried son age 35, Farm? Holder, born Newport
Herbert GETHING - Grandson, age 5, born Bristol
Eliza SINCLAIR, Servant, age 36, Housemiad born Mon. Blackwood
Mary JONES - 34, Cook, Monmouthshire
Robert PRICHARD - age 22, Groom, born Monmouthshire, Usk

1871 Census, St Woollos (census difficult to read)

Gold Top

Jane GETHING - Widow age 66, born Monmouth LLanvrechva?
Jane JENKINS, unmarried niece, age 27, born Glam Cardiff
Amy Jane WASTZIG? Niece age 12, born Kent, Forest Hill
Elizabeth ASHWORTH, 28, Servant

There is on line from the National Archives a

PDF file,

GB0218D.298 Gwent Record Office

(tried a direct link, to this website, but can't seem to get the link, but just google the above)

Various documents - including GETHING

on various pages, Robert GETHING - 8 May 1818, Newport, Merchant
George GETHING, Newport, Mon, Gent
William GETHING, Caerleon, Mon. Gent
James GETHING

George GETHING, of Springfield St Woollos Gent, 1857, concerning Edward JAMES and daughter Mary Ann GETHING

Gething family and Baptist causes (reply)

wbellin — Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:39:50 +0000

A benefactor of the Baptist college at Pontypool in the 19th century was a George Gething. Is that the same George Gething (md to Jane)who lost two daughters (drowned at Southerndown 21/7/1842)? In the old Baptist chapel at Caerleon, Newport [now two private houses] there was a plaque He was a shipping merchant using the Usk at Caerleon. I would like to know more about the family and their connections.

"Sacred to the memory of Mary aged 15 years and Jane aged 13 years, only daughters of George and Jane Gething of the town of Newport, died 21st July 1842"

Bradney's history of Monmouthshire records the plaque. Then the Bristol Mercury and Daily post, Saturday,July 30 1842 reports

"In our last we breifly alluded to the melancholy dealth, by drowning, of Jane, aged 14, and Mary, aged 16, daughters of George Gething, Esq., of Newport. It appears that the two ladies, with their mother, who was stopping near Southerndown,a watering place, near Bridgend, on the Glamorganshire coast, went to bathe under Dunraven Castle, not far from the Summer-house. The tide being low, the young ladies proceeded beyond the point; and Mrs Gething repeatedly enjoined them to be cautious and not venture beyond the shallow water. They were , however, drawn into the current, and after a brief struggle for existance, both perished! Poor Mrs Gething made every exertion to rescue her children. She went out of her depth and narrowly escaped the fate of her lost offspring. The agonised father immediately reached the scene of the wo, and found his wife in a state of insensibility. The body of Jane aged 14, was soon recovered, but Mary was not found till about half past twelve on Friday morning. ... The afflicted father, wandering in agony beside the treacherous waters, found his beloved child Mary a stiffened corpse the next morning. A verdict of accidental dealth has been returned ..."

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

Astley 7 — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:02:09 +0000

Sound like food for research thank you so much for the information I will have to look this up
Best wishes
Lisa

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

bristolloggerheads — Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:49:32 +0000

From memory - you will find Gethings in "Men and Armour" listed as mariners. There were also Gethings in the Severn Gorge back this far.

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

Astley 7 — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:39:46 +0000

Yes I have that information The father John moved to Liverpool he was Captain /Master and died at sea in 1852 and his son John, Williams Bartons brother died in 1857 at sea of Yellow fever it seems shipping was in the family. George and Mary's son all had connections with shipping Robert became Dock Master of Newport. John a Captain/Master and George jnr a shipping agent in Newport. It seem that the family spread outwards across the Country from Robert side of the family also to Liverpool, Staffordshire, Worcestershire and London. But myside only moved up the road to Bargoed, (Mid Glamorgan) ha ha
Thanks for all your time and help on this.
Best wishes
Lisa

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

m p griffiths — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:06:21 +0000

Obviously this particular branch of the family were in Liverpool in 1839, as William BARTON GETHING birth is registered June 1839, Liverpool District.

On the 1881 census - we have at 17 Byron Street, Derbyshire
William GETHING - and his family - age 41, born Liverpool

(Chelsea Pensioner. Sergt Major - Yeoman (DYC)

Annie - 40, born Manchester

Isabella - 12, born Windsor, Berks
Maggie - 10 - born London
Gertrude - 7 - London, Chelsea
William 5 - born London, Regents Park
Adelaide - 3, born Berks, Windsor
Liliam - 4 months born Derby, Normonton

On the 1871 census, William B GETHING (transcribed as GETTING is a Corporal 1st Life Guards)

29 April 1868, Westminster, St James Paddington - 29 April 1868 - District of St Paul's Knightsbridge.

William is a Corporal in the 1st Life Guards - father John JACOB GETHING is a Captain in the Merchant Service.

Annie HURST, of St James Paddington, father John HURST, Engineer

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

Astley 7 — Thu, 29 Apr 2010 13:33:38 +0000

Thanks for your hard work looking into this for me. Some great research, I have all the children as there were bonds left apon the death of Mary so the Christening records confirm this. It was great to find the Marriage of the George and Mary it looks like I have been looking in the wrong area. It seems to be the only marriage that fits in for the time. I have been centralised at the possible connections with the riverboat and possible family members being in chepstow and brockweir more than further afield.

Thank you so very much
Lisa

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

m p griffiths — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:29:22 +0000

ANCESTRY : (England & Wales Marriages 1538-1940)

has the date: 26 October 1791 - George GETHING & Mary JACOB - Bristol, Gloucestershire

Just 4 GETHING marriages at Bristol, Gloucesteshire listed

John GETHING - Mary LUKINS - 7 November 1675

and these two quite close to George's marriage

Eleanor GETHING - Henry PRICE - 27 December 1791
William GETHING - Sarah LANE - 2 July 1807

20 JACOB marriages listed from 1660 to 1879

1851 Census, Lancs. Liverpool, Mount Pleasant

John Jacob GETHING - age 42, - Master Mariner - born Monmouthshire, Chepstow
Isabella GETHING - 40 - born Lancs. Manchester
William Barton GETHING - age 11
Robert J? GETHING - age 8

FOD christening records at Chepstow - Monmouth (George & Mary)

Sarah - 12 October 1797
George - 31 December 1801
Mary Ann - 16 January 1804
Robt. 18 July 1806
John 29 November 1808

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

Astley 7 — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:29:22 +0000

Hi Chris, Thanks for the information and replying to my post, I have never been able to link the surname really just a guess as one of the son's middle name was Jacob or it could have been Barclay who is named as a relation in Mary's Will cant thank you enough perhaps I will really get over the brick wall. Thank you

Gething family, Chepstow (reply)

ChrisW — Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:13:15 +0000

This marriage on IGI?

George Gething Pedigree
Male Family

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Event(s):
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Spouse: Mary Jacob Family
Marriage: 09 OCT 1791 Bristol, Gloucester, England

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Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.