Forest of Dean FHT Forum - William MOORE 1785 Arlingham

William MOORE 1785 Arlingham (reply)

amandakerby — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:12:39 +0000

Thanks very much for the next instalment! I shall hopefully have more time tomorrow to spend time working through all this wonderful information you have sent. It is very much appreciated. Amanda

MERRETT/MOORE - Murder of Amelia PHIPPS - Charles BUTT (reply)

amandakerby — Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:09:12 +0000

Goodness me, the first murder in the family! Well sort of, distantly! Amazing stuff! Thankyou. Unfortunately I havent had much time today to do family history but hopefully will have more tomorrow to catch up on your message and Slowhands.
Thanks to both of you for SOOO much fantastic help.
Amanda

MERRETT/MOORE - Murder of Amelia PHIPPS - Charles BUTT (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:04:36 +0000

Amanda

If you look at Public Members Tree on Ancestry - named 'Buckpont'

you will find

James MERRETT - christened at Slimbridge - 12 August 1798

married 1st to Mary WILLIAMS 30 December 1824 in Arlingham (died Dec 1839) - FOD records say Mary WILKINSON

married

Eliza MOORE c1825 - June 1872 in Wheatenhurst District

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FOD records

Marriage at Arlingham - 30 June 1872

James MERRETT age 74, Widower, labourer, Arlingham
father: James MERRETT, Farmer

married

Eliza MOORE age 45, Spinster residence, Arlingham

father: William MOORE, labourer, by banns

witnesses: George & Hannah ANDREWS

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and gives this as well

Eliza MERRETT is on the 1881 Arlingham age 56

1881 Census Arlingham
Cottage

Eliza MERRETT - M - 56 - born Arlingham
Elizabeth Ellen MORE - daughter - unmarried age 18 - Servant, born Arlingham

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FOD records

Marriage at Arlingham - 30 December 1824

James MERRETT - Bachelor, Arlingham
married
Mary WILKINSON - Spinster, Arlingham

by licence

witnesses: Enoch WILLIAMS and Eliza MERRETT

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Gloucestershire Archives - Arlingham - 24 March 1825

Agreement between William VIZARD and James MERRETT for letting two fisheries in the River Severn and other premises at Arlingham

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The Newspaper article from The Argus (Melbourne) - talks about the Murder of Amelia Selina PHIPPS in Arlingham - James MERRETT, brother-in-law of the deceased - and 'The 17 August was what is locally kown as 'Arlingham Feast- and James MERRETT's house in Arlingham

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5866055?searchTerm=Thomas+John+Griffin+Murderer

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Flickr - have a website + Charles Edward BUTT - triple hanging 1874

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/5046573971/

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The James in the Newspaper article - could be James son of Henry MERRETT in Arlingham - there appear to be 3 brothers farming in Arlingham from Slimbridge, James 1798 - who married Eliza MOORE, Henry c1804 and John - 1801.

1881 Census Arlingham
James MERRETT - 47 - Farmer of 100 acres, born Arlingham
Esther Charlotte MERRETT - 43 - born Stroud (nee PHIPPS)
William PHIPPS - son - 14
Walter - 12
Charles - 10
Ellen - 8
Charlotte - 5
Maurice John - 2

GloucestershireBDM - James MERRETT married Esther C PHIPPS, Stroud, Whitshill St Paul 1866

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FOD records

Baptism at Arlingham 5 Jan 1834

James MERRETT, parents Henry (School Master) & Sarah - residence, Arlingham

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and googling - right up-todate.

T J MERRETT, Oldbury Farm, Overton Lane, Arlingham

William MOORE 1785 Arlingham (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:08:23 +0000

WILLIAM MOORE
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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 20 MAR 1785 Arlingham, Gloucester, England
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MOORE
Mother: SARAH
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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
C026571 1724 - 1812 0417107 Film 6911632 Film
Sheet: 00

<><>< not his parents?

WILLIAM MOORE
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Marriages:
Spouse: HESTER MILLS
Marriage: 01 JUL 1782 Arlingham, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M026571 1756 - 1812 0417107 Film 6911633 Film
M026571 1813 - 1882 0856935 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

Year: 1821
Month: Oct
Day: 21
Surname: MOORE
Forenames: Esther
Residence: Arlingham
Age_at_death: 64
Officiating_Minister: Rob[er]t Smith Officiating Minister
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/13
Page_No: 11
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham

<><><><> probably this pair

William Moore
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Marriages:
Spouse: Sarah Jacksons
Marriage: 20 NOV 1785 St Mary-De-Lode'S, Gloucester, Gloucester, England
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
I038299 Film
Sheet:

MOORE (Chelsea Pensioner) - Lord Leycester Hospital (reply)

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:05:08 +0000

Mm I never joined Curious Fox but it does throw up some interesting msgs sometimes. Shall have to find out if any of the friends here have access! The lister is not a paid member either so you have to become a paid member to msg them.

I googled Overton and took a google drive around the area, its SOOOOO pretty.
Amanda

Elizabeth TODMAN 1788 Petersfield HANTS (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:01:21 +0000

Unconfirmed in LDS

Bett Todman
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Event(s):
Birth: 03 AUG 1788 Petersfield, Hampshire, England

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Parents:
Father: Thomas Todman
Mother: Elizabeth Page
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

THOMAS TODMAN
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH PAGE
Marriage: 10 JUN 1788 Petersfield, Hampshire, England
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Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church.

which is good for the following marriage

WILLIAM MOORE
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Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH TODMAN
Marriage: 19 JUN 1805 Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M062612 1774 - 1783 0919744 Film 1238634 Film
M062612 1783 - 1798 0919745 Film NONE
M062612 1798 - 1806 0919746 Film NONE
M062612 1807 - 1815 0919747 Film NONE
Sheet: 00

MOORE (Chelsea Pensioner) - Lord Leycester Hospital (reply)

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:54:36 +0000

Wow how exciting, that's just wonderful stuff, thank you so much for finding all of that. I can hardly keep up with all the information coming in! I shall look into this tomorrow but must get to bed, its now 2am!!!
Amanda

MOORE (Chelsea Pensioner) - Lord Leycester Hospital (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:25:23 +0000

There are two other Public Members tree with MOORE/TODMAN

Mitchel-Turner
Skellon_12-2009

Earl Leicester Hospital - the Head's seem to be 'Brothers' of the hospital - small retirement home, as other male's are ex Army/Marines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Leycester_Hospital

William MOORE age 64 is at the Earl Leicester Hospital (High Street- 1851) - he is a Chelsea Pensioner and brother to Earl Leicester Hospital.

National Register of Archives holds information about manuscripts and historical records etc.

On Curious Fox -

http://www.curiousfox.com/history/gloucestershire_2.html

'Arlingham Glos and Petersfield Hants.

My ancestor was a William MOORE, bap at Arlingham on 20 March 1785. In 1805 he married Elizabeth TODMAN at Portsea in Hampshire while he was a serving soldier in the Napoleonic wars.

He spent the last years of his life in the Lord Leycester Hospital in Warwick (a home for retired servicemen). If you have any connection with either the Moore or Todman families, please get in touch.'

Sarah WEBBER nee MOORE 1819 (reply)

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:15:02 +0000

Sorry just posted another one slightly out of order as following TODMAN thread!
Night!
Amanda

William MOORE/Elizabeth TODMAN (reply)

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:13:07 +0000

Mmm you are right re the Todman marriage fitting the 1861 census. I think I shall back up the bus and print every census image I have and make sure we have one family and not two!

The hints im getting on Ancestry take me to a FAWKES family tree with the Todman marriage but it doesnt list the children so I wonder which family tree you are looking at?
Im too tired to think any more, its past 1am here so time for head on pillow! More tomorrow! Insomnia is an affliction which must affect lots of genealogists!
Amanda

Sarah WEBBER nee MOORE 1819 -1911 Overton / Frampton (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:11:48 +0000

Great, yes that looks likely to be her in the 1841, thanks. Sarah MOORE married Robert Webber of Chawleigh, Devon the same year in St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol. After the birth of first child a year later in Bristol, they moved first to Deptford, then to Bermondsey, London where they had at least thirteen more children.

Thre is one other person on Ancestry researchign this family so I might go see what she has listed on her public tree.

Thanks for your help and the useful map, though it booted up extremely small on my screen!

Amanda

makes more sense now !

Name: Sarah Webber
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1820
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1911
Age at Death: 91
Registration district: Wandsworth
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 272

1901
Robert Webber abt 1807 Devon, England Head Battersea, London
Sarah Webber abt 1814 Frampton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Battersea, London

1891
Robert Webber abt 1812 Dewsbury, Yorkshire, England Head Battersea, London
Sarah Webber abt 1817 Gloucestershire, England Wife Battersea, London
Emma Hendey abt 1821 Chelsea, London, England Lodger Battersea, London

1881 8 Heath Road
Robert Webber abt 1813 Chorley, Devon, England Head Clapham, London
Sarah Webber abt 1819 Frampton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Clapham, London

1871 Bermondsey
Robert Webber 59
Sarah Webber 52 Overton
Walter H Webber 19
Thomas Webber 17
Martha Webber 15
George Webber 12
Sarah J Webber 7
Margaret A Webber 5
Robert Webber 3

1861
Robert Webber abt 1813 Cheveley, Devon, England Head Bermondsey, Surrey
Sarah Webber abt 1819 Frampton, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bermondsey, Surrey
Elzabeth Webber abt 1848 Bermondsey Daughter Bermondsey, Surrey
Walter Henry Webber abt 1851 Bermondsey Son Bermondsey, Surrey
Thomas Webber abt 1853 Bermondsey Son Bermondsey, Surrey
Martha Webber abt 1855 Bermondsey Daughter Bermondsey, Surrey
George Webber abt 1859 Bermondsey Son Bermondsey, Surrey
Marianne Webber abt 1861 Bermondsey Daughter Bermondsey, Surrey
Sarah Jane Webber abt 1861 Bermondsey Daughter Bermondsey, Surrey

1851
Robert Webber abt 1813 Devon, England Head Bermondsey, Surrey
Sarah Webber abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Wife Bermondsey, Surrey
Emm Webber Robertabt 1843 Bristol Daughter Bermondsey, Surrey
Elizabeth Webber abt 1846 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter Bermondsey, Surrey
William Webber abt 1849 Deptford, Kent, England Son Bermondsey, Surrey
Walter Webber abt 1850 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Son Bermondsey, Surrey

William MOORE/Elizabeth TODMAN (reply)

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:58:23 +0000

They did end up in Warwickshire so I feel safe to say that's them in the hospital and the Jane MOORE grandaughter all fits. I have seen the marriage to TODMAN and I shall have to delve further because it doesn't seem right, but need to prove it before ruling out completely. At some stage I have also found this marriage which is more likely I think. I need to see the original record for more information.

ame: William Moore
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Napper
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1817
Marriage Place: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

You are certainly very adept at finding things quickly!
Amanda

MOORE family of Overton, Arlingham early 1800s (reply)

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:28:14 +0000

Great, yes that looks likely to be her in the 1841, thanks. Sarah MOORE married Robert Webber of Chawleigh, Devon the same year in St Mary Redcliffe, Bristol. After the birth of first child a year later in Bristol, they moved first to Deptford, then to Bermondsey, London where they had at least thirteen more children.

Thre is one other person on Ancestry researchign this family so I might go see what she has listed on her public tree.

Thanks for your help and the useful map, though it booted up extremely small on my screen!

Amanda

William MOORE/Elizabeth TODMAN (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:12:22 +0000

This tree is on Ancestry Public Members Tree - and should of course only be used as a possible guide..... or it might even be your tree

William MOORE born 20 March 1785 Arlingham (1785-1867)

married

Elizabeth TODMAN - 1788-1868 - born Petersfield, Hampshire - 26 October 1788 - place of birth confirmed by 1861 census

CLDS

Marriage at Saint Mary's Portsea - 19 June 1805 - William MOORE/Elizabeth TODMAN

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children:

Martha - 1817
Sarah - 1819
George - 1821
Thomas - 1822
Hester - 1823
Emma - 1824
Mary - 1827
Ann - 1828

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1841 Census, Gloucestershire, Frampton on Severn

MOORE

Wiliam - 55 - Ag Lab. born in County
Elizabeth - 59 - not born in County
Martha - 22
George - 20
Clara - 16
Ann - 13
Emma - 10
William - 3
Hannah WATKINS, 35 - Indp - born in County

and give them on the 1861 at Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire

Earl Leicester Hospital

William MOORE - Peurer? Rl Artilliary - age 73 - born Erlingham
Elizabeth - 70 - more Petersfield
Emma - 37 - born Arlingham
Jane - 17

death: June 1867, age 82, Warwickshire

Overton, nr Arlingham (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:51:40 +0000

Hi Im new to the FOD Forum but not to Gloucestershire research! Im looking for Sarah MOORE born around 1821 in Overton (which I think was a farm) nr Arlingham. I have searched the parish records here and come up with the following two families in the Arlingham parish, one quite possibly mine. Does anyone else have these families on their tree? Are Slowhands Cinderford MOORE's related?

Yes there is an Overton hamlet in the neck of the Great Horseshoe bend near Arlingham and Fretherne.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/showmap.php?gridref=SO7210

Sarah MOORE 1819 ? (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:43:21 +0000

Hi Im new to the FOD Forum but not to Gloucestershire research! Im looking for Sarah MOORE born around 1821 in Overton (which I think was a farm) nr Arlingham. I have searched the parish records here and come up with the following two families in the Arlingham parish, one quite possibly mine. Does anyone else have these families on their tree? Are Slowhands Cinderford MOORE's related?

Possible sightings ???

Year: 1819
Month: Sep
Day: 17
Parents_Surname: MOORE
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Betty
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Arlingham
Occupation: Labour[er]
Officiating_Minister: John Sayer Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P18 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 17
Parish_Chapel: Arlingham

1841 Newnham St
Daniel Hardey abt 1806 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Mary Hardey abt 1801 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Hannah Hardey abt 1833 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Richard Hardey abt 1836 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Elen Hardey abt 1840 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Hannah Carl abt 1796 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Sarah Moore abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire Nurse
Mariam Syner abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Ann Wyker abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire
Mary Smith abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Newnham, Gloucestershire

Possible parents across the River Severn

1841
William More abt 1786 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Moore abt 1788 Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
Martha Moore abt 1819 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
George Moore abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
Eliza Moore abt 1825 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
Ann Moore abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
Emma Moore abt 1831 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire
William Moore abt 1839 Gloucestershire, England Frampton Upon Severn, Gloucestershire

1851 High St
William Moore abt 1797 Erlingham, Gloucestershire, England Head Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire Chelsea Pensioner

1851
James Merrett abt 1799 Stimbridge, Gloucestershire, England Head Arlingham, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Moore abt 1789 Petersfield, Hampshire, England Wife Arlingham, Gloucestershire
Eliza Moore abt 1825 Arlingham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Arlingham, Gloucestershire
Emma Moore abt 1832 Arlingham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Arlingham, Gloucestershire
Jane Moore abt 1844 Arlingham, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Arlingham, Gloucestershire
Ann Moore abt 1850 Arlingham, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Arlingham, Gloucestershire

1861
William Moore abt 1788 Erlinghon, Warwickshire, England Head Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Moore abt 1791 Petersfield, Hampshire, England Wife Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire
Emma Moore abt 1824 Erlingham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire
Jane Moore abt 1844 Erlingham, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Warwick St Mary, Warwickshire

MOORE family of Overton, Arlingham early 1800s

amandakerby — Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:34:49 +0000

Hi Im new to the FOD Forum but not to Gloucestershire research! Im looking for Sarah MOORE born around 1821 in Overton (which I think was a farm) nr Arlingham. I have searched the parish records here and come up with the following two families in the Arlingham parish, one quite possibly mine. Does anyone else have these families on their tree? Are Slowhands Cinderford MOORE's related?

William (retired soldier) and Elizabeth (Betty) MOORE, children:
Martha 1817
Sarah 1819 (possible contender for my Sarah)
Marianne d.1821 (infant)
Thomas 1822
Esther 1823
Eliza 1825
Mary 1827
Anne 1831

Following on from this there are baptisms for bastard children born to an Eliza Moore (b.1825 - possibly Eliza above?):
Jane 1843
Augustus 1848 d. 1848
Frances Ann 1849
Augustus Merrett 1852
Martha 1854
Edwin Wm Merrett 1857 d 1858
Wm John Merrett 1861
Elizabeth Ellen 1864
Edith Emily 1867

Would love to hear from anyone connected.
Amanda Kerby
NZ