Forest of Dean FHT Forum - SAMUEL PARRY more Longhope area "strays".

SAMUEL PARRY more Longhope area "strays". (reply)

Jefff — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 23:49:52 +0000

This series of census entries suggests that the Samuel Parry who was the son of John and Caroline was alive on 2/4/1871. Perhaps the Durham Samuel Parry found by Jeff shouldn’t be discounted?

GR 1851 Census, Blaisdon, Nott Wood

John PARRY, Head, Mar, 38, Ag Lab, b. Glos. Longhope
Caroline, Wife, Mar, 28, Glos. Awre
John P GLOVER, Son, 9, Scholar, Glos. Saint Brivals
Mary A PARRY, Daur, 6, Glos. Longhope
Harriot, Daur, 3, Glos. Blaisdon
Samuel, Son, 7m, Glos. Blaisdon
John GLOVER, Inmate, 2m, Glos. Blaisdon

GR 1861 Census, Longhope, Cottages
John PORRY, Head, Mar, 48, Ag Lab, Gloster, Longhope
Caroline, Wife, Mar, 37, Charwoman, Gloster, Awre
Harriett, Daur, Un, 13, Gloster, Blaisdon
Samuel, Son, 10, Scholar, Gloster, Blaisdon
William, Son, 8, Scholar, Gloster, Blaisdon
James, Son, 6, Gloster, Blaisdon
Emily, Daur, 4, Gloster, Longhope
Henry, Son, 2, Gloster, Longhope
Elizabeth, Daur, 1, Gloster, Longhope

GR 1871 Census, Longhope, Village

John PORRY, Head, Mar, 58, Ag Lab, b. Gloucestershire, Longhope
Caroline, Wife, Mar, 48, Gloucestershire, Awre
Samuel, Son, Un, 20, Coal Miner, Gloucestershire, Blaisdon
William, Son, Un, 18, Ag Lab, Gloucestershire, Blaisdon
James , Son, Un, 16, Ag Lab, Gloucestershire, Blaisdon
Elizabeth, Daur, 10, Scholar, Gloucestershire, Longhope
Julia, Daur, 8, Scholar, Gloucestershire, Longhope
Sarah, Daur, 6, Scholar, Gloucestershire, Longhope
Charles, Son, 4, Gloucestershire, Longhope

For ref, found by Jeff:-

GR 1881 Census, Elvet, Durham
William COLTMAN?, Head, Mar, 48, Coal Miner, b. Durham, Pensher?
Jane, Wife, Mar, 37, Durham, Gateshead
Samuel PARRY, Boarder, Un, 30, Coal Miner, Gloucester, Longhope

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I've used Familysearch to search for all "Parry/Porry/Perry"s born Longhope, Blaisdon or Hartpury, trying to find anymore who moved far outside the County or neighbouring Herefordshire and South Wales (I see several in South Wales, but apparently not from "our" family as far as I can tell).

First hit is James Parry b1850, also a miner on the Durham coalfield, lives in Durham town.
Again not a rare name at all, not sure which family branch he fits into, but worth a mention;

1881 Census, Lovegreen St, Framwellgate, Durham
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

George Holliday Head M 33 Joiner. Sunderland, Durham, England
Mary E Holliday Wife F 27 Scotland
Mary B Holliday Daughter F 7 America
Thomas Holliday Son M 5 Durham, Durham, England
Catharine Holliday Daughter F 4 Durham, Durham, England
Elizabeth B Holliday Daughter F 2 Durham, Durham, England
John Holliday Son M 2 M Durham, Durham, England
James Parry Lodger M 30 Coal Miner, Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

I cannot obviously see him in any other census, so unsure about his parents/family.

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1881 Census, Market Harboro, Lubenham, Leicestershire
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Sydney Larnach Head M 28 No profession. Australia
Jane Baker W F 45 Widow, housekeeper. Hartfield, England
Louisa Parry Servant F 25 Cook. Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

I think she is from this large family, not Samuel's;

1871 Census, East Dean, Gloucestershire
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Thos Parry Head M 46 Widowed farmer. Longhope, Gloucestershire
Augusta Mary Ann Parry Daughter F 20 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Edith Julia Parry Daughter F 17 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Louisa Parry Daughter F 15 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Lydia Hannah Parry Daughter F 12 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Phebe Sarah Parry Daughter F 9 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Gerrett Parry Daughter F 7 Longhope, Gloucestershire

1861 Census, Walk Square, Longhope, Glos.

Thomas Parry Head M 36 Agricultural Labourer. Longhope, Gloucestershire
Selina Parry Wife F 30 Stafford Bilston,
Augusta Parry Daughter F 10 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Edith Parry Daughter F 7 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Louisa Parry Daughter F 5 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Lydia Parry Daughter F 3 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Phebe Parry Daughter F 8M Longhope, Gloucestershire
Fanny Parry Daughter F 4 Ubbenhall, Gloucestershire
John Parry Son M 1 Ubbenhall, Gloucestershire

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1881 Census, Lowfield Road, Hampstead, London, Middx

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Parry Head M 28 Gardener Out Of Employ. Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Ann Parry Wife F 28 Wales
Margaret Sarah Parry Daughter F 5 Willesden, Middlesex, England
Vernon Parry Son M 3 Hampstead, Middlesex, England
Edith Annie Parry Daughter F 1 Hampstead, Middlesex, England

1891 Census, Palmerston Road, Hampstead, London, Middx

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Parry Head M 38 Gardener. Gloucestershire, England
Annie Parry Wife F 38 Merionethshire, England
Margaret S Parry Daughter F 15 England
Edith A Parry Daughter F 11 England
Caroline G Parry Daughter F 5 England
Alice Kavanagh Visitor F 34 Suffolk, England

I cannot see anymore definite records for this William b1853, except for Samuel's brother William, as per Census top of this page.

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Hopefully these findings may help Eric or any other Parry researchers.

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Jefff — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 16:03:33 +0000

It looks like Charles PARRY was prepared to move away too.

GR 1891 Census, Cardiff, 2 Tyndall St.

Charles PARRY, Head, Mar, 24, Market gardener, b. Glos. Longhope
Ellen, Wife, Mar, 26, Glam. Cardiff
Ellen, Daur, 4, Glam. Cardiff
John LEARY, Brother-in-law, 21, Labourer, Glam. Cardiff

Thanks Mike, yes they did get about, rail fares were more affordable then !
And on that subject, thanks for that interesting transcription GWRMad.

FreeBMD;
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1888 (>99%)
LEARY Ellen Cardiff 11a 485
Parry Charles Cardiff 11a 485

SAMUEL PARRY's sister Mary Ann in 1871, 1891, 1901. (reply)

Jefff — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:51:26 +0000

Here's Samuel's sister Mary Ann again, before she went to Weymouth.
I recognise the names of the owners of this large household, think they were at Longhope Manor in later years, or was it Bradley Hall ?;

1871 Census, Abinghall, Gloucestershire,

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Henrietta Davis Head F 79 Widowed land-owner. Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Mary Elizabeth Wemyss Niece F 52 St Briavels, Gloucestershire
William Chas Fox Visitor M 44 Curate Of Mitcheldean. Bristol, Gloucestershire
Georgeina Sarah Fox Visitor F 40 Watford, Hertfordshire
Eliza Frances Fox Visitor F 6 Kempton, Gloucestershire
Lionel Woodhouse Fox Visitor M 5 Kempton, Gloucestershire
Armine Woodhouse Fox Visitor F 1 Weston, Somerset
Ambrose Nicholls Servant M 51 Butler. Great Elm, Somerset
Elizabeth Walters Servant F 27 Lady's Maid. Stackpole, Pembrokeshire
Mary Ann Parry Servant F 27 Cook. Longhope, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Smart Servant F 24 Kit-chen Maid. East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rachel Cooper Servant F 16 HouseMaid. English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
William Mathews Servant M 19 Foot Boy. English Bicknor, Gloucestershire
Edwin Thomas Servant M 26 Coachman. West Hilsbury, Berkshire
Mary Ann Emery Servant F 37 Nurse. Leigh, Essex

(This has given me a possible lead for one of my trees, to a younger Mary Smart "of Gloucester" who perhaps oddly married at Longhope in 1892, thanks !).

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And as with the aforementioned 1881 Census, she stays in Weymouth, and stays single.
Still no sign of Samuel, but looks like another sister Elizabeth is now there too, business is booming ?.

1891 Census, New Street, St Marys Melcombe Regis, Weymouth.

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Mary Ann Parry Head F 40 Lodging House Keeper. Gloucestershire, Langhope
Frances M A Newkester Servant F 28 Dorsetshire, England
William H Bragge Boarder M 53 Dorsetshire, England
Geraldine Bragge Boarder F 999 Jer-sey, Channel Islands
Margaret Bragge Boarder F 7 Dorsetshire, England
Adela V Bragge Boarder F 4 Wyke Regis, Dorsetshire, England
William J W Bragge Boarder M 2 Dorsetshire, England
Frances Hawker Boarder F 22 Isle Of Wight, Brightstone

1891 Census, New Street, St Marys Melcombe Regis, Weymouth.

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Elizabeth Parry Head F 31 Lodging House Keeper. Gloucestershire, England
Henry W Gibbings Boarder M 44 Devonshire, England
Frances Gibbings Boarder F 35 Sussex, Petworth
Naomi Gibbings Boarder F 7 Sussex, England
Mary Gibbings Boarder F 3 Sussex, England
Mary E Wyatt Boarder F 49 Sussex, England
Alice Moore Servant F 21 Fishbourne, Sussex, England
Bessie Bennett Servant F 17 Hampshire, England
Eliza Wills Servant F 17 Dorsetshire, England

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Hopefully business is still good for Mary Ann, but no boarders ?

1901 Census, Charlesfield Place, St Marys Melcombe Regis With Radipole, Weymouth.

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace

Mary A Parry Head F 53 LODGING HOUSE KEEPER. Longhope, Gloucestershire
Agnes Barton Servant F 20 SERVANT. Bath, Somersetshire

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PS POLITE NOTE TO ADMIN - I see the site software still doesn't permit us to use the word "kit-chen" in full, seems rather daft to me. Or "Jer-sey" too, even dafter... !

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SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

goldenfox — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:09:46 +0000

Thanks again Jefff
atb
Eric

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

goldenfox — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 15:08:36 +0000

Thank you Mike, very much appreciated
regards
Eric

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 12:16:10 +0000

It looks like Charles PARRY was prepared to move away too.

GR 1891 Census, Cardiff, 2 Tyndall St.

Charles PARRY, Head, Mar, 24, Market gardener, b. Glos. Longhope
Ellen, Wife, Mar, 26, Glam. Cardiff
Ellen, Daur, 4, Glam. Cardiff
John LEARY, Brother-in-law, 21, Labourer, Glam. Cardiff

GR 1901 Census, Cardiff, 2 Blanche St.

Charles PARRY, Head, Mar, 34, Market gardener, b. Glos. Longhope
Ellen, Wife, Mar, 39, Glam. Cardiff
Ellen, Daur, 10, Glam. Cardiff
Agnes, Daur, 5, Glam. Cardiff
Charles E, Son, 2, Glam. Cardiff
Lilian M, Daur, 1, Glam. Cardiff

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

gwrmad — Sun, 14 Feb 2016 10:14:05 +0000

Better than the transcription on The Genealogist which has the surname as COTTINASS .Don't laugh

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 13 Feb 2016 20:11:40 +0000

This might be the family of the Samuel PARRY buried at Hartpury in Feb 1870,

GR 1851 Census, Hartpury

Samuel PARRY, Head, Mar, 37, Ag Lab, b. Gloucestershire, Long Hope = born 1814
Mary, Wife, Mar, 37, Glos. Hucklecote
Elizabeth, Daur, 7, Scholar, Glos. Hartpury = born 1844
Ann, Daur, 6, Scholar, Glos. Hartpury = born 1845
Eliza, Daur, 3, Glos. Hartpury = born 1848
Samuel, Son, 7m, Glos, Hartpury = born 1850

Not certain, but it looks like the wife/mother of this family was Mary BROWN. However there were a few Mary Browns born Gloucester abt 1814 and none of the Baptisms or 1841 Census records I've seen on LDS quote "Hucclecote", so ??

Marriage Details

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
PARRY Samuel BROWN Mary Gloucester Gloucester St Nicholas 1842 35A X No 1 231

Births from GlosBMD;

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PARRY Elizabeth PARRY PARRY BROWN 1843 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 2 403
PARRY Ann PARRY PARRY BROWN 1845 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 3 127
PARRY William PARRY PARRY BROWN 1847 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 3 459
PARRY Elizabeth PARRY PARRY BROWN 1848 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 4 148
PARRY Samuel PARRY PARRY BROWN 1850 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 5 40
PARRY Maryann PARRY PARRY BROWN 1852 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 5 418

Adding to Mike's Census post for Samuel Senior born "1814 Longhope", prob living Hartpury;

1891 Census, Church Rd, Hartpury.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Samuel Parry Head M 77 Widower. Gloucestershire, England
Wen Parry Grandson M 19 Gloucestershire, England

and perhaps

1841 Census, Coopezs, Hartpury.
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
James Coleman M 25-29 Gloucestershire
Eliza Coleman F 24-28 Gloucestershire
Caroline Moody F 20-24 Gloucestershire
Ann Baird F 25-29 Gloucestershire
Samuel Parry M 25-29 Gloucestershire
William Howell M 15-19 Gloucestershire

Which MAY support the theory that his son Samuel b1850 travelled to Durham with his 19 year old sister Julia;

1881 Census, Dodd St, Elvet, Durham, England
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Coltman Head M 40 Coal miner. Pensher, Durham, England
Jane Coltman Wife F 37 Gateshead, Durham, England
Samuel Parry Boarder M 30 Coal miner. Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

Assuming this name should read Coleman, not a rare name no doubt in Durham, but a POSSIBLE link to their Hartpury home, perhaps ?
OR INDEED PROBABLY NOT, as there is indeed a surname COLTMAN in the Durham area, and plenty more Census entries fro William & Mary Coltman too. Ah well..

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Sat, 13 Feb 2016 12:13:04 +0000

This might be the family of the Samuel PARRY buried at Hartpury in Feb 1870,

GR 1851 Census, Hartpury

Samuel PARRY, Head, Mar, 37, Ag Lab, b. Gloucestershire, Long Hope
Mary, Wife, Mar, 37, Glos. Hucklecote
Elizabeth, Daur, 7, Scholar, Glos. Hartpury
Ann, Daur, 6, Scholar, Glos. Hartpury
Eliza, Daur, 3, Glos. Hartpury
Samuel, Son, 7m, Glos, Hartpury

GR 1861 Census, Hartpury

Samuel PARAY, Head, Mar, 47, Ag Lab, b. Longhope, Glos.
Mary, Wife, Mar, 48, Ag Lab, Hucklecote, Glos.
Samuel, Son, 10, Ag Lab, Hartpury, Glos.
Mary Ann, Daur, 7, Hartpury, Glos.

GR 1871 Census, Hartpury

Samuel PARRY, Head, Mar, 57, Farm Labourer, b. Glos. Longhope
Mary, Wife, Mar, 57, Lab. Wife, Glos. Hucclecote
Mary A, Daur, Un, 18, General Servant, Glos. Hartpury

I can’t find any reference to his death in the BNA.

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 21:24:50 +0000

Thanks a lot Mike. Maybe my Familysearch methods will respond better to "Porry", my lack of hits earlier seemed very odd, unless it was just guiding me towards Durham... ?!

Yep, I just input John & Caroline Poory, found the 1861 Census straightaway, and I used to think Familysearch/LDS was excellent at automatically offering name spelling variations... maybe they've been "improved" aka Ancestry ;-)

Re that 1881 Census, "Pensher" is the old name (local dialect!) for Penshaw or even once Painshaw, near Durham, itself a coal mining town (Herrington Colliery); see http://ukga.org/england/Durham/towns/PainshawPenshaworPensher.html

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Continuing the Census series from Mike's post;

1881 Census, Taynton, Gloucestershire

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
John Parry Head M 68 Widower, Farming 1 Acre Land, Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Charles Parry Son M 14 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Ellen Dawe Housekeeper F 40 Cannon Frome, Herefordshire, England

Wife Caroline's dead, so searching other children to try to find Samuel, perhaps;

William born Blaisdon abt 1853 = ?? cannot find for sure, so many Williams..

James born Blaisdon abt 1855 = 1881 is a railway porter, lodging in large household of Robert Mawby, outfitter's assistant(gen dealer) at Cirencester.
Cannot find him in 1891.

Emily b1857 = 1871 is servant at large household of James Dicks, grocer, Huntley.
Then ?, married ?

Henry b1859, cannot find in any census, or a Burial Record ??

Cannot find Elizabeth b1861, married ?

Julia b1863, not sure but could this be her in 1881 ?.
WHY GO ALL THIS WAY APPARENTLY ALONE, ESPECIALLY AGED JUST 19, UNLESS SHE TRAVELLED WITH BIG BROTHER SAMUEL (30) ON HIS ROUTE TO DURHAM ??.

1881, Clayton (in Bradford), Yorkshire West Riding;

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
James Wilson Head M 70 Yarn Merchant & Agent, Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Grace Wilson Wife F 43 Linthwaite, Yorkshire, England
Amy Wilson Daughter F 7 Clayton, Yorkshire, England
Arthur Dodson Wilson Son M 5 Clayton, Yorkshire, England
Ernest Wilson Son M 3 Clayton, Yorkshire, England
Hannah Wilson Sister F 35 Ashton Under Lyne, Lancashire, England
Julia Maud Parry Servant F 19 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Emily Amelia Phelps Servant F 17 Liberton, Midlothian, England

1891, Private Road, Roundhay, Leeds, Yorkshire (West Riding)

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Middleton Head M 71 Yorkshire, England
Mary Middleton Wife F 51 Yorkshire, England
Alice Middleton Granddaughter F 9 Leeds, Yorkshire, England
William B Middleton Grandson M 7 Yorkshire, England
Martha J Griffiths Servant F 27 Yorkshire, England
Rachel M Griffiths Servant F 24 Yorkshire, England
Martha Sutcliffe Servant F 40 Yorkshire, England
Julia M G Parry Servant F 30 Domestic Servant Gloucestershire, England

1901, Headingley Cum Burley, Yorkshire West Riding;

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Julia Maud Perry Head F 39 Longhope, Gloucestershire
Martha S Sutcliffe F 50 Leeds, Yorkshire
Robert W Hodgson Boarder M 24 Ackworth, Yorkshire

Sarah b1865 is with her older sister Mary A Parry,
1881, Chesterfield Place, Melcombe Regis in Weymouth, Dorset;

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Mary A Parry Head F 36 Lodging House Keeper, Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah E Parry Sister F 17 Longhope, Gloucestershire, England
Ambrose Nicholls Visitor M 61 Gre? How, Somerset, England

In 1861 young Mary Ann Parry was working with her Aunt Elizabeth
1861, Shurdington Road,Great Shurdington, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire;

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Elizabeth Brown Head F 38 Widow, Laundress, Longhope, Gloucestershire
Sarah Brown Daughter F 13 Shurdington, Gloucestershire
Allice Ann Brown Daughter F 4 Shurdington, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Parry Niece F 16 Laundress, Longhope, Gloucestershire

Finally Charles b1867 is with his father, see above.

So, still no hint of Samuel, except proof that his siblings aren't averse to travelling the UK for work, and his sister Julia appears to be not too far from Durham, where our Samuel may be.

???

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 20:40:59 +0000

This series of census entries suggests that the Samuel Parry who was the son of John and Caroline was alive on 2/4/1871. Perhaps the Durham Samuel Parry found by Jeff shouldn’t be discounted?

GR 1851 Census, Blaisdon, Nott Wood

John PARRY, Head, Mar, 38, Ag Lab, b. Glos. Longhope
Caroline, Wife, Mar, 28, Glos. Awre
John P GLOVER, Son, 9, Scholar, Glos. Saint Brivals
Mary A PARRY, Daur, 6, Glos. Longhope
Harriot, Daur, 3, Glos. Blaisdon
Samuel, Son, 7m, Glos. Blaisdon
John GLOVER, Inmate, 2m, Glos. Blaisdon

GR 1861 Census, Longhope, Cottages
John PORRY, Head, Mar, 48, Ag Lab, Gloster, Longhope
Caroline, Wife, Mar, 37, Charwoman, Gloster, Awre
Harriett, Daur, Un, 13, Gloster, Blaisdon
Samuel, Son, 10, Scholar, Gloster, Blaisdon
William, Son, 8, Scholar, Gloster, Blaisdon
James, Son, 6, Gloster, Blaisdon
Emily, Daur, 4, Gloster, Longhope
Henry, Son, 2, Gloster, Longhope
Elizabeth, Daur, 1, Gloster, Longhope

GR 1871 Census, Longhope, Village

John PORRY, Head, Mar, 58, Ag Lab, b. Gloucestershire, Longhope
Caroline, Wife, Mar, 48, Gloucestershire, Awre
Samuel, Son, Un, 20, Coal Miner, Gloucestershire, Blaisdon
William, Son, Un, 18, Ag Lab, Gloucestershire, Blaisdon
James , Son, Un, 16, Ag Lab, Gloucestershire, Blaisdon
Elizabeth, Daur, 10, Scholar, Gloucestershire, Longhope
Julia, Daur, 8, Scholar, Gloucestershire, Longhope
Sarah, Daur, 6, Scholar, Gloucestershire, Longhope
Charles, Son, 4, Gloucestershire, Longhope

For ref, found by Jeff:-

GR 1881 Census, Elvet, Durham
William COLTMAN?, Head, Mar, 48, Coal Miner, b. Durham, Pensher?
Jane, Wife, Mar, 37, Durham, Gateshead
Samuel PARRY, Boarder, Un, 30, Coal Miner, Gloucester, Longhope

SAMUEL PARRY, Blaisdon area, 1850-1870. (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 12 Feb 2016 18:30:38 +0000

Hi Eric,
do you know just how many Samuel Parrys were born in total who we may be getting confused with ?. I ask as my first look via Family Search suggests rather too many for comfort, yet I'm surprisingly struggling to find yours on the earlier Census' with his parents. There is also the possibility of Parry being transcribed as Perry, and vice versa. I thought my researches for the Jones of Lydbrook were difficult, but it seems your problems are worse !

For starters, and to help my thinking, from FoD Prs we have these Baptisms;

Record_ID:128264
Entry_Number: 619
Year: 1847
Month: Sep
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Samuel
Fathers_Forenames: Benjamin
Mothers_Forenames: Ellen
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Aston Ingham
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: J.J. Shalley [?] Curate of Newent
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AR90/3
Page_Number: 78
Parish_Chapel: Aston Ingham
Soundex: P600

PRs show this Samuel b1847 marries Mary Yemm at Weston under Penyard in 1873, so can be discounted.

Record_ID: 271877
Entry_Number: 182
Year: 1850
Month: Sep
Day: 15
Parents_Surname: PARRY
Child_Forenames: Samuel
Fathers_Forenames: Samuel
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Hartpury
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: Charles Crawley Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P165 IN 1/16
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: P600

So very similar to your Samuel, except the Parents of course !

And GlosBMD gives these Birth Records;

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PARRY Samuel PARRY PARRY PRITCHARD 1847 Gloucester Gloucester, Newent 5 186

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PARRY Samuel PARRY PARRY BROWN 1850 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 5 40

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PARRY Samuel PARRY PARRY GLOVER 1850 Gloucester Gloucester, Huntley 5 18
(which is our subject/target)

And finally

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
PARRY Samuel PARRY PARRY JONES 1859 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 7 499

Apart from your Samuel's burial in 1871 at Hartpury aged 19, of all the Samuel Parry Burial Records on the FoD database this is the only one that can relate to any of the above Births;

Record_ID: 249540
Entry_Number: 1049
Year: 1924
Month: Apr
Day: 26
Surname: PARRY
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Cinderford
Age_at_death: 76 years
Officiating_Minister: W M Bellamy Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/14
Page_No: 132
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook
Soundex: P600

So born abt 1848.
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GlosBMD gives these Marriages which may link to the above baptisms;

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
PARRY Samuel JONES Mary Ann Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office [Closed] 1879 6 135

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
PARRY Samuel PARRY Hannah Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office [Closed] 1888 8 188

Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
PARRY Samuel WALDRON Mary Forest of Dean Mitcheldean St Michael and All Angels 1894 1 151

??????

I suspect it may help for all these Births to be researched thro the Census' etc, so as to narrow down who was who and where. However, as hard as I try, my only reference site LDS is proving very unhelpful when trying to search the above people on the Census', odd ! But even then that won't solve your query as to why your Samuel died. I've revisited the old local newspapers again c1870 but no trace of any Samuel Parrys ?, widening the timescale confirms, as you know, an awful lot of Samuel Parrys in the news over many generations, especially a Samuel M (Morton?) Parry who I think was an RSPCA Inspector in the 1920s etc.

I've also searched the Glos Archives Nonconformists site, but to my surprise just one Samuel Parry on their database, a Will from 1837 for a "gentleman of Longhope".
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Results.aspx

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Anyway, you've probably seen this record but if not here's one Samuel born "Longhope c1851" you can put into the discounted pile.

1881 Census, Dodd St, Elvet, Durham, England

Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
William Coltman Head M 40 Coal miner. Pensher, Durham, England
Jane Coltman Wife F 37 Gateshead, Durham, England
Samuel Parry Boarder M 30 Coal miner. Longhope, Gloucestershire, England

More to come, hopefully soon, J

SAMUEL PARRY (reply)

Jefff — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 16:40:55 +0000

Hi again Goldenfox.
As you say, he's not in the Inquests section of this site, and a very quick search suggests his death isn't mentioned in the local papers as might be expected from an accident, altho I included his full name in the search will may well be a mistake, I suggest you may want to try again just using "Parry" etc.

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1870-01-01/1870-12-31?county=gl...

As you know, but inckuded for completeness;

Record_ID: 158335
Entry_Number: 107
Year: 1870
Month: Feb
Day: 10
Surname: PARRY
Forenames: Samuel
Residence: Longhope
Age_at_death: 19
Officiating_Minister: T H J Hickes Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_No: 14
Parish_Chapel: Hartpury
Soundex: P600

Please, when you have time, can you see and hopefully reply to my post to you from last year, thankyou, Jeff.
see http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?id=46593

SAMUEL PARRY

goldenfox — Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:50:23 +0000

Hi, Samuel was born in abt. 1850 at Blaisdon, and later was in residence at Longhope.
He was a coal miner and records show he died in 1870 age 19. I am wondering if he was involved in a pit accident. I have searched on this excellent site without success, and would appreciate if someone can help me on this, many thanks in advance.

Samuel's parents were John Parry 1813-1894 and Caroline Glover 1824-1874. I said above that Samuel was a coalminer, and that is probably correct, however it is possible that there was a different Samuel Parry that was the coalminer, both being born and died about the same time.
I may be totally wrong on this , but would like to get to the bottom of it.