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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By searching</p>
<p>The Proceedings of the Old Bailey </p>
<p>London's Central Criminal Court, 1674 to 1913 (which is on line)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.oldbaileyonline.org">http://www.oldbaileyonline.org</a></p>
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Reference: Number: t18610505-411</p>
<p>May 1861  : Trial of JAMES HOGG (28) CAROLINE HOGG</p>
<p><br />
James HOGG (28) and Caroline HOGG were indicted for stealing, </p>
<p><strong>on 5 July,</strong> </p>
<p>50 handkerchiefs, value 12l<br />
282 scarfs, value, 30l</p>
<p><strong>on 15 August</strong></p>
<p>106 handkerchief and 316 scarfe, value 52l</p>
<p><br />
<strong>11 October</strong></p>
<p>198 handkerchiefs<br />
133 scarfs<br />
6 neckties   value 27l 12s</p>
<p>the property of John BROCKLEHURST and others, the master of James HOGG, to which</p>
<p>James HOGG - pleased guilty</p>
<p>Mr SLEIGH offered no evidence against</p>
<p>Caroline HOGG - not guilty</p>
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<title>Ellen (Helen) Hogg (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information has been passed to me by a fellow forum Contributor which is very interesting and explains why the children were being looked after by other family members.</p>
<p>Hogg: Old Bailey: 6 May 1861</p>
<p>Caroline HOGG - : Lar &amp; Rec: acquitted and discharged.</p>
<p>James HOGG was sent down for 3 years</p>
<p><br />
1861 Census:</p>
<p>Newgate Prison</p>
<p>James HOGG  aged 28, occupation Porter, born Ingasteston, Essex</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think I've &quot;cracked it&quot;</p>
<p>as transcribed on Ancestry</p>
<p><br />
1871 Census</p>
<p><strong>Walford<br />
Herefordshire</strong></p>
<p><br />
Henry <strong>J </strong>HAGG (as transcribed) aged 38 : <strong>Bricklayer,</strong> born Ingatestone, Essex<br />
Caroline HAGG - 39 - born Ramsgate, Kent<br />
Henry J HAGG - 19 - born St Pancras<br />
<strong>Hellen C HAGG </strong>- 14 - born St Pancras<br />
William J HAGG - 12 - born St Pancras</p>
<p><br />
By 1881, the couple are back in London, St Pancras</p>
<p>98 Carlton Street</p>
<p>Henry James HOGG - aged 48, Builder employing 18 men - born Essex<br />
Caroline HOGG - 49 - born Ramsgate Kent</p>
<p>---</p>
<p><br />
1891 Census, Middlesex, Edmonton<br />
<strong>3 Essex Villages</strong></p>
<p>Henry HOGG - 63, House Painter &amp; Decorator, born Ingastestone, Essex<br />
Caroline HOGG - 63, born Enfield Middx</p>
<p><br />
? death: 1908, Edmonton</p>
<p>Caroline Sarah HOGG aged 80 birth about 1828, <br />
----</p>
<p>1901 Census, Middlesex, Edmonton</p>
<p>Henry HOGG - 73 - House Decorator, born Essex, Ingatestone<br />
Caroline HOGG - 73 - born Enfield Middlesex</p>
<p>----</p>
<p>1911 Census, 127 Bury Street, Lower Edmonton, Middx</p>
<p>Edward John COCKSON - 55 - Railway Clerk, london London<br />
Florence COCKSON - 42 (married 22 years) - bonr Middx Edmonton<br />
Edward Henry COCKSON - Son 21- - Bank Clerk, born Middx, Edmonton  (mother's maiden name HOGG - GRO Index)<br />
Gladys Florence COCKSON - 18 <br />
<strong>Henry HOGG - aged 83, father-in-law- Widower, retired House Decorator, born Essex, (Fryerning, as transcribed)<br />
</strong><br />
----</p>
<p><br />
1891 Census, Edmonton, Middx</p>
<p>3 Lawrence Street</p>
<p><br />
Edward J COCKSON - 35 - Railway Clerk, born London Mile End<br />
Florence COCKSON - 22 - born Middx, Edmonton<br />
Edward H COCKSON - 1 - ditto  (see above, mother's maiden name HOGG)</p>
<p><strong>Edward John COCKSON married Florence HOGG - 1888, Edmonton District</strong></p>
<p>Ancestry: Marriage at St James, Upper Edmonton, Enfield : 4 August 1888</p>
<p>Florence HOGG aged 19, Spinster,  residence: <strong>3 Essex Villas</strong> : father: Henry HOGG - House Decorator<br />
Edward John COCKEN - aged 32, father Edward </p>
<p>witnesses: Henry HOGG and Ada Bennett</p>
<p>--</p>
<p>On the 1881 census, Florence HOGG aged 12, and grand-daughter is living with her Grandmother: Harriet HOGG aged 78, born Sussex, Ditching (retired licenced victualler) at: 2 Chesham Road, Brighton, Sussex</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>---</p>
<p><br />
1881 Census, London, St Pancras</p>
<p>70 Weedington Road</p>
<p>Henry J HOGG - 29, Bricklayer  - born St Pancras<br />
Harriet HOGG - 25, born Wiltshire St James<br />
Ada F HOGG - 7 - all children, born St Pancras<br />
Henry J HOGG - 4<br />
Alice H HOGG - 3<br />
Emmeline HOGG - 2</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>GRO, children's mother's maiden name HAWKINS</p>
<p><br />
Henry James HOGG married Harriet HAWKINS, Pancras District: March Qtr 1873</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>Ancestry: Marriage at Holy Trinity, Haverstock Hill, Camden - 16 March 1873</p>
<p>Henry James HOGG aged 21, Bachelor, Bricklayer, 51 Harwood Street, father: Henry James HOGG, Bricklayer<br />
Harriet HAWKINS aged 19, same address: father: James HAWKINS, labourer</p>
<p>witnesses: George THOMPSON and Emma HAWKINS</p>
<p>----</p>
<p><br />
1891 Census, London St Pancras</p>
<p>Kentish Town, Oakfield Crescent</p>
<p>William J HOGG - 31, Bricklayer, born St Pancras<br />
Frances HOGG - 31 - born Wilthshire (with a ?) <br />
Francis E - 8 - (daughter) born London St Pancras</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>Marriage on Ancestry: 22 December 1878<br />
St Martin's Kentish Town<br />
Camden</p>
<p>William J HOGG age 27, 1 Oakfield Crescent :  father: <strong>Henry HOGG - Bricklayer</strong></p>
<p>Frances McLean, aged 19,1 Oakfield Crescent  : father: John McLean, - Platelayer</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>???</p>
<p>There is a marriage on Ancestry at Camden St Giles in the Fields Holborn</p>
<p>4 May 1851</p>
<p><strong>James HOGG</strong>, aged 21, W/House Man, of No 29 N Compton Street, father John HOGG - <strong>occupation: bricklayer</strong></p>
<p>Caroline WARD, aged 20 , Spinster, of Compton Street, N 27 father William Henry WARD, Printer</p>
<p>witnesses: William Henry WARD and Elizabeth Matthews WARD</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage at English Bicknor 1873 (on FoD records)</p>
<p>Oliver MAGNESS aged 20 - Bachelor, Iron works puddler, residence: Lynbrook<br />
father: Richard MAGNESS, Publication</p>
<p>Ellen HOGG aged 18, Spinster, father: James HOGG - Bricklayer</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>As Ellen says she was born in Middlesex, London</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>There is on the 1861 Census for St Pancras, Middlesex<br />
29 Gough Street</p>
<p><br />
3 children, listed as HAGG on Ancestry, but looks like HOGG  (Ancestry has HOGG in brackets)</p>
<p>Henry HAGG - 9<br />
Ellen HAGG - 5<br />
William HAGG - 2</p>
<p>listed as relatives and born St Pancras</p>
<p>living with Henry LEATON aged 39 and Mary A LEATON aged 38 - with other children too</p>
<p>---</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>GRO has</p>
<p>Helen Caroline HOGG - mother's maiden name WARD - 1856, St Pancras</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, </p>
<p>I am looking into another part of my family. Her name was Ellen (Helen) Hogg she was born in 1855, but according to her census records she was born in Lydbrook then on others she was born in Middlesex! would anybody know anything about Ellen? She also married a chap called Oliver Magness in 1873.  </p>
<p>Thanks Amie</p>
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