Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Who is Glen BEVIE?

Who is Glen BEVIE? (reply)

unknown — Sun, 08 May 2011 08:48:51 +0000

Thankyou for that information.
At least the mystery of eva is resolved. I can add it to my timeline. As you can probably gather i'm new to all this, but learning quickly.

You wouldn't have any idea who glen BEVIE is would you. His name appears with the inscription and date the house was built 1810, i was given this information last week.

I don't know if he was the builder. Is this what they did when they built houses in those days?

How would i go about finding who lived in the house before the TYLERS and whilst they were at Viney Hill?

Are these Tylers related to John and Maria Tyler? (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 07 May 2011 10:05:48 +0000

On the 1901 census, Eva M TYLER - is aged 49 c 1852 (not c1872)

Nags Heads Lodge

John TYLER, Widr - 74, Crown Wood Keeper
Eva M (ditto the surname) - single, age 49 - House Keeper Domestic
Evelyn M SMITH - age 10

1891 Census, Glos. Clifton
transcibed as DYLER

Eva M DYLER AGE 39 - General Servant - born Forest of Dean, Gloucetershire

working at for a Lodging House Keeper (transcribed as Sophia DYCH) c1822 - widow 69 - born Shropshire

1881 Census, Glos. Clifton

John P HOLBROOK, 39 - Lodging House Keeper, born Somerset
Sarah - 39 - born Dorest, Topiddle
Eva M TYLER - 28 - General Servant - born Gloucester, Coleford

On the 1911 census, there is an Eva TYLER c 1853 - Monmouth, Monmouthshire

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1861 Census, West Dean, Clearwell

William HOAKES - 40 - Miner - born Mon. Landago
Ellen HOAKES - 45 - all born Newland
Eliza TYLER, wife's daughter age 16 - FOD records, 24 November 1844, James & Ellen TYLER
John TYLER, wife's son age 11 - FOD records, 22 August 1850, James & Ellen TYLER

1851 Census, West Dean, Clearwell

James TYLER - 39 - born Glos. St Briavels
Hellen TYLER - age 30 born Newland
Eliza TYLER - age 5
Margaret WILLIAMS, age 18, visitor, born Woolaston
John TYLER - son age 1

Gloucestershire BDM

William OAKES married Ellen TYLER, Register Office FOD - 1857

and Births - TYLER - mother's maiden name PHIPPS

Charles 1836, Eliza - 1844, James 1842, John 1849

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FOD records, Marriage at Newland 4 July 1836

James TYLER, Bachelor, residence Newland

married

Eleanor PHIPPS, Spinster, residence Newland

by Banns

Mark of James and Eliza BROWN

If you use the Advance Search and check if James TYLER was a witness at a wedding etc. (a useful tool to find family links)

There are a few inc - marriage at Newland, 13 June 1838

Peter TYLER, father: Samual Tyler, MARRIED Jane POWELL - both James and Ellen were witnesses

and when Hannah PHIPPS (Spinster) married John HOAR - at Parkend - 13 September 1845

1861 Census, East Dean, Norfold Green

Peter TYLER, age 53, born St Briavels (same as James TYLER)
Jane TYLER - 57 - born Ruardean
Joseph TYLER - 23
Mary Ann TYLER - 13

James TYLER, christened at St Briavels - 20 August 1809 - parents Samuel & Sarah
Peter TYLER - ditto - 27 January 1811, parents Samuel & Sarah

Are these Tylers related to John and Maria Tyler? (reply)

unknown — Fri, 06 May 2011 22:40:59 +0000

I dont know. Information I've gathered from that given initially by 'slowhands' is

John TYLER (abt 1926)married Mary PRESTON in 1845 (8 children have been listed)
William TYLER (son) dies 1854
Albert TYLER (son) dies 1879
In 1892 Sarah TYLER (daughter) marries William HAWKINS, John TYLER (son) marries Fanny ROGERS the same year. They leave the lodge.
Mary TYLER dies in 1895,and John TYLER dies in 1912 aged 85.
His son John dies in 1938 aged 81.
One of their daughters Eva monica TYLER (abt 1853) dies in 1931 coleford almshouses.
Do they sound familiar?

If they do could you tell me which family members evelyn m SMITH (abt 1891)(grand daughter) and Eva TYLER (daughter)(abt 1872) are related to?

They appear to be living at the lodge in the 1901 census, i am struggling to find out how they came to be living there. I do hope your Rosa is the one i am still looking for.

Are these Tylers related to John and Maria Tyler? (reply)

rookancestrybest — Mon, 25 Apr 2011 19:56:43 +0000

Are these Tylers related to John (born about 1849 died 1910) and Maria Tyler/Tylor(nee Rook) born 1852 and died 1923? They also lived at Lane End. They had at least 10 children and one of these was called Rosa. (I have all their dates of birth and who most of them married etc).

Nagshead Lodge, Coalway - change of name (reply)

unknown — Sat, 23 Apr 2011 08:19:10 +0000

acording to the records of deaths at parkend chapel, when frank TYLER died in 1870 the house was referred to as NAGS HEAD LODGE. When albert edward TYLER died in 1879 according to the register the house was referred to as NAGS HEAD HILL LODGE. I'm presently trying to find out what happened to rosaetta TYLER abt 1847.

Nagshead Lodge, Coalway - John TYLER (reply)

unknown — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:37:21 +0000

so who was in nagshead lodge between the dates 1841 to 1881, and who moved in after john Tyler died? is there a register or parish record that i should be loking at, anyone any ideas?

Nagshead Lodge, Coalway - John TYLER (reply)

unknown — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 08:11:12 +0000

thank you, you are a wealth of information. would you know why the area is referred to as nagshead? a stone above the window of the house has a reference number on it, the date 1810 and the words nagshead hill.

Nagshead Lodge, Coalway - John TYLER (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 20 Apr 2011 05:52:16 +0000

Built in 1810 it was locally known as Tylers Lodge after John Tyler who moved there in 1826 with his father. The family moved to Viney Hill, until the father dies in 1848 and John returned to Nagshead for the next 50 or so years. His son also a John took over from John senior - hence the Lodge also became known as Tylers lodge !

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/downloads/eBooks/Forest_of_Dean_by_A_O_Cooke_1913.pdf on P127

After about a mile the pleasant little woodman's house of
Nagshead Lodge is passed upon the left. The
young oak planted by the lodge's occupant of fourteen
years ago for Queen Victoria's Diamond
Jubilee, hardly does justice to the woodman's
loyalty. The tree—or is it a descendant perhaps
- hardly appears above the ground.

{1897 - Victoria's Diamond Jubilee}

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2035184

1841 Nagshead Lodge
Thomas Tyler abt 1796 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
Sarah Tyler abt 1806 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
William Tyler abt 1826 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
John Tyler abt 1827 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest,

Year: 1845
Month: Jun
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: TYLER
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 19
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Coleford Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: TYLER
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Woodman
Brides_Surname: PRESTON
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Coleford Lane End
Brides_Fathers_Surname: PRESTON
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Baker
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: John Preston
Witness_2: Richard Jones
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry Poole
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

1851 Viney Hill
John Tyler abt 1826 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Woodman
Mary Tyler abt 1826 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Rosaetta Tyler abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Tyler abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Charles Sanders abt 1837 Herefordshire, England Servant East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 BirchHill Lodge
John Tyler abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Tyler abt 1826 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Eva Monica Tyler abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Jane Tyler abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Tyler abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie Laura Tyler abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah Tyler abt 1802 Madley, Herefordshire, England Mother West Dean, Gloucestershire

1871 Birch Hill lodge
John Tyler 44
Mary Tyler 45
Eva Monica Tyler 18
Emily Jane Tyler 16
John Tyler 13
Annie Laura Tyler 11
Albert David Tyler 8
Sarah Ann Tyler 5
Sarah Tyler 73

1881 Nags Head Lodge
John Tyler abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Keeper of Woods
Mary D. Tyler abt 1826 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily J. Tyler . abt 1855 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Annie L. Tyler abt 1860 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A. Tyler abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1891 Nags Head Lodge
John Tyler abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Tyler abt 1826 St Briavels, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
John Tyler abt 1858 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire
Sarah A Tyler abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Gloucestershire

1901 Nags Head Lodge
John Tyler abt 1827 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Eva M Tyler abt 1872 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire
Evelyn M Smith abt 1891 West Dean Granddaughter West Dean, Monmouthshire

Year: 1912
Month: Apr
Day: 3
Surname: TYLER
Forenames: John
Residence: Coalway Coleford
Age_at_death: 85
Officiating_Minister: E H Brice Vicar of Coleford
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/30
Page_No: 137
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

The Lodge, Nags Head, Coalway

admin — Tue, 19 Apr 2011 23:19:46 +0000

There is a stone at the lodge nags head at coalway, that was laid by the crown forester to commmemorate the 60th year of the reign of queen victoria. Another stone above one of the windows shows the house was built in 1810. I would like to research the history of the house and the families who lived in it. Can you help in any way or point me in the right direction.