1901
Charles Butt abt 1866 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Woolastone, Gloucestershire
Alice Butt abt 1870 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolastone, Gloucestershire
Charles Butt abt 1889 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolastone, Gloucestershire
Gertrude Butt abt 1891 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolastone, Gloucestershire
Ethel Butt abt 1893 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolastone, Gloucestershire
William Butt abt 1896 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolastone, Gloucestershire
Gertrude Webb abt 1873 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Sister-in-Law Woolastone, Gloucestershire
George Hayward abt 1829 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Uncle Woolastone, Gloucestershire

Name: William Andrew Butt
Birth Date: 20 Dec 1895
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1969
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Forest of Dean
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 7b
Page: 1059

He lived at the Laurels, Woolaston .

His shop was one of the village stores in Woolaston ,opposite the junior school gates .

The Lydney shop was in Newerne Street , roughly where the betting shop and Tony Box,s

TV / electrical shop is.

There are two gravestones in Woolaston old churchyard ,on the left of the path going up

to the church .

This is quite new to me - and complicates the business of tracing his life.

Born in Monmouthshire/Glos, a cousin of his told me (in the 1970s) that 'Willie' was raised in Pontesbury by his grandfather (i.e. William Hamlet Ashton's father) and this is possibly (but only possibly) given some credence by his appearance there in the 1891 Census. He could, of course, have been visiting.
When he was older he taught in Staffs, got married in Chesterfield, but continued to teach in Staffs until he retired.
I'm wondering whether your contribution means he was a County Councillor in Staffs concurrently with being a Governor of LGS, or whether these were sequential.

Apart from this information giving me another headache [ :) ] I'm grateful to you for giving me another aspect of his life to explore.

Regards

Sam

Downloads - Miscellaneous Section
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/joomla/resources/documents-and-articles

Civil Dignitaries

The late W. A. Butt was a County Councillor for many years and a Governor of L.G.S. His brother Charles and the late Charles Steele was amongst the very first pupils.

UPDATE 29/6/11 I suspect this is William Andrew BUTT from Woolastone has both a father and brother named Charles

Am still having trouble with this list's spam filter. It won't let me send individual messages for some reason, so I Posting instead - thanks for providing so much information.

Sam

Overall my researches have been going well - except in the case of William Butt. So, I decided to turn most of my attention to him hence my appearance on this list.
He was my father's half-brother but they never met, and I wanted to know about him.

When I posted my first message I couldn't have imagined how generous you would be with your time or how much information I would end up with.

Thanks again

Regards

Sam

Postcript: Bob (thanks for your interest) and Paul... Yes, I also concluded that the confusion about Lydley probably is down to spelling errors or the enumerator's mishearing.

1871 Census, Shropshire, Pontesbury

ASHTON

William - 47 Lead Miner, born Montgomery, LLanwnog
Mary - 47 - born Denbigh, Wrexham
Thomas - 18 - all born Pontesbury
John - 14
Edward - 13
Eliza - 11
William - 9
Margaret - 6

1881 Census, Westbury on Severn

High Street

William H ASTON - Boarder, unmarried, age 19, Assistant Ord. Survey, born Shropshire, Pontesbury

1891 Census, Hemsworth, Yorkshire

William ASHTON - age 29 unmarried - Civil Service, Ordnance Branch born Pontesbury, Shropshire

probably her later marriage :-

Year: 1913
Month: Mar
Day: 26
Grooms_Surname: SCRIVENS
Grooms_Forenames: George Henry
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Hewelsfield
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Scrivens
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William Henry
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Brides_Surname: POWELL
Brides_Forenames: Ellen Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 25
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Hewelsfield
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Powell
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns: [not stated]
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: William Henry Townshend
Witness_2: Elizabeth Woodland
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: P. H. Fernandez Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P175 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 137
Parish_Chapel: Hewelsfield

Christening at Lydney Primitive Methodist - 28 March 1889

Ellen Elizabeth BUTT (William's sister)

mother's Forenames: Elizabeth

Residence: Woolaston

occupation: Servant

Officiating Minister: John JENKINS

Baptism

Born August 25th 1887

(see 1881 Census, for William H ASHTON in Westbury on Severn) age 19)

Year: 1864
Month: May
Day: 1
Parents_Surname: BUTT
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth
Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Woolaston
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: William Somerset Rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Feb 7 1860
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

1871
Cornelus Butt 44
Elizabeth Butt 44
Cornelus Butt 12
Elizabeth Butt 10
Jacob Butt 8
Charles Butt 4
Mary Butt 2

1881
Cornelius Butt abt 1828 Kington Magna, Dorset, England Head Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Butt abt 1828 Woollaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Butt abt 1861 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Charles Butt abt 1866 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Woolaston, Gloucestershire
Mary Jane Butt abt 1871 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Woolaston, Gloucestershire

Name: Ellen Elizabeth Ashton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1887
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 13

Year: 1889
Month: Sep
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: POWELL
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labo<u>rer
Grooms_Residence: Woolaston
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Powell
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Labo<u>rer
Brides_Surname: BUTT
Brides_Forenames: Elizabeth
Brides_Age: 28
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Woolaston
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Butt
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Cornelius
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labo<u>rer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she Signs
Witness_1: Charles Butt
Witness_2: Alice Butt
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: William Somerset Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/12
Page_Number: 135
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston

Year: 1890
Month: Sep
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: POWELL
Child_Forenames: Thomas John
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Alvington
Occupation: Labourer
Officiating_Minister: William Allen
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P12 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 56
Parish_Chapel: Alvington

1891
Thomas Powell abt 1865 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Head Alvington, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Powell abt 1861 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Alvington, Gloucestershire
Ellen Elizabeth Butt abt 1888 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Stepdaughter Alvington, Gloucestershire
Thomas John Powell abt 1890 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Alvington, Gloucestershire

Year 1891
Month Dec
Day 13
Parents Surname POWELL
Child Forenames Edith Elizabeth
Fathers Forenames Thomas
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence Alvington
Occupation Haulier
Officiating Minister W. Townsend
Event Baptism
Memoranda Born 9 Nov. 1891.
Notes
Register Reference P12 IN 1/5
Page Number 57
Parish Chapel Alvington

1901
Ellen E Powell abt 1886 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Servant Hewelsfield, Gloucestershire

1901
John Powell abt 1824 Cam Dursley, Gloucestershire, England Head Alvington, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Powell abt 1826 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Alvington, Gloucestershire
Thomas Powell abt 1860 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Son Alvington, Gloucestershire
Edith Powell abt 1892 Alvington, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Alvington, Gloucestershire
Lily Miles abt 1893 Cross Keys, Monmouthshire, Wales Visitor Alvington, Gloucestershire

Thanks for your last info. I attemnpted to reply off-list but the system kept returning an 'Error' for the email address.
In addition to the three siblings you identified there are five more ans informatin about them is not too difficult to run down.
It was the Butt problem that had run into the buffers.

Thanks again for your help.

Sam

1871
William Ashton 47
Mary Ashton 47
Thomas Ashton 18
John Ashton 14
Edward Ashton 13
Eliza Ashton 11
William Ashton 9
Margaret Ashton 6

1881
William Ashton abt 1824 Caersws, Montgomeryshire, Wales Head Pontesbury, Shropshire
Mary Ashton abt 1824 Minera, Denbighshire, Wales Wife Pontesbury, Shropshire
Edward Ashton abt 1858 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Son Pontesbury, Shropshire

Name: William Ashton Butt
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1883
Registration district: Chepstow ( covers Lydney)
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 20

1891
Williams Ashton abt 1824 Llanwnnog, Montgomeryshire, Wales Head Pontesbury, Shropshire
Mary Ashton abt 1824 Wrescham Denby Wife Pontesbury, Shropshire
Mary Ashton abt 1856 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Daughter Pontesbury, Shropshire
Edw Ashton abt 1858 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Son Pontesbury, Shropshire
William F Bute abt 1883 Lydley, Gloucestershire, England Grandson Pontesbury, Shropshire
Gladys Ashton abt 1888 Birmingham Granddaughter Pontesbury, Shropshire

1901
William Ashton abt 1824 Llanwynno, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Pontesbury, Shropshire
Edward Ashton abt 1858 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Son Pontesbury, Shropshire
Margaret Jones abt 1865 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Granddaughter Pontesbury, Shropshire
William Ashton abt 1883 Pontesbury, Shropshire, England Grandson Pontesbury, Shropshire

1911
BUTT WILLIAM ASHTON M 1883 28 Cannock Staffordshire {born Lydney}

Name: William A Butt ??
Spouse Surname: Mary E Heeley
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1922
Registration district: Chesterfield
Inferred County: Derbyshire
Volume Number: 7b
Page Number: 1929

Name: Wiliam A Butt
Birth Date: abt 1883
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1957
Age at Death: 74
Registration district: Walsall
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 649

23rd June 1957 late of Redmoor Inn Gentleshore nr Rugeley
Estate £1,800
Mother Elizabeth BUTT of Woolaston

Rugeley
Hayfield Hill, Gentleshore
WS15 4RU

The place name Lydley appears to be derived from the 1891 census return. The 1911 census return clearly states the birthplace as Lydney. I would suggest that the 1891 census enumerator has made an error and that the place name should have been Lydney on the 1891 return.

Regards

Sam

replied off line with some useful information (probate etc.) to use as you wish.

Cannock Wood Nr Rugeley

Alexandere Startin - Head - 42 - Married - Gentleman's Servant Indoor - Cannock Wood - British
Lucy Mary Startin - Wife - 45 - Married - 17 - 3 - 2 - 1 - Cannock Wood - British
Henry Harold Startin - Son - 16 - Single - Gardener Domestic - Cannock Wood - British
Lawarence Gerald Startin - Son - 7 - Cannock Wood - British
William Ashton Butt - Boarder - 28 - Single - School Teacher (Elemy) - County Council - Gloucestershire, Lydney

Paul - I'm afraid that the issue I am dealing with is potentially very sensitive and I don't feel I have a right to discss it with you.
However, I can explain what my problne is.
As M P Griffiths's reply shows (a) the Census entry gives the name of the child as BUTE but the birth (and shopshire Census Transcript) give the name Butt. (b) the birth record only provides the administrative district (i.e. Chepstow) but the Census record gives a specific - Lydley.
Problem -- I can't pursue this until I know where Lydley is hence which parish it lies in.

Hope this makes the situation clearer

Sam

1891 Census, Pontesbury, Shropshire

Williams ASHTON - Miner, age 67, born Llanwnnog, Montgomery
Mary ASHTON - 67 - born Wrescham, Denby
Mary ASHTON - daughter - 35 - born Pontesbury, Shropshire
Edw ASHTON - son - 33 - born ditto
William F BUTE (looks like an 'A' - not 'F') - Grandson, age 8, born Lydley, Gloucestershire
Gladys ASHTON - Grandaughter - age 3 - born Birmingham