Forest of Dean FHT Forum - John ELLIOTT/Fanny PRIDE

John ELLIOTT/Fanny PRIDE (reply)

rachelcasotti — Thu, 19 May 2016 12:18:22 +0000

My Great Grandfather was Ruben Elliott - who had a son Sydney Elliott who then had a daughter Valerie Marlene Elliott who was my mother

Reuben ELLIOTT b1867 (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:33:22 +0000

Hi, glad it helps. I've only been using this and t'other sites for just over a year. My best recommendation is to set your sights low when first researching. Don't enter too many fields particularly Parishes and specific dates. Only search surnames at first. Do tick the soundex box and always think how a name could have been mispelt or mistranscribed in the past and try and allow for it eg if use the % "wildcard" key, such as EL% instead of Elliot, it will give results for ALL names starting in EL.....from this you get an idea of those that may be "yours" so can be narrowed down for later further investigation. Re first names, maybe just enter R to give all possible spelling variations of Reuben, say. Also the resulting long list of results may suggest the most likely Parishes where your ancestors lived; are they all Severnsiders for example, as would befit those in say Alvington as I think I saw some of your possibles in the C17th ?.
Yes you may get a long list to trawl thro but at least you don't miss any possibles.

Basically in my experience it's an enjoyable search, learning as you go, pitting your mind against the demon compooter, so exciting when you find your prey !
The Advanced Search is great too for finding households of baptisms, say. Again this deserves trial and error to find how it works, eg you can input the least info (again, "less gives more" with a FH site search engine in my experience) such as a father's name, it will give all the Baptisms with that name involved. The results can be sorted by clicking on the top of each column, fir example in date order, so easing your search.
Good luck !

ELLIOTT/PRIDE - Newington Bagpath, Glos (reply)

unknown — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:10:47 +0000

Thanks again, really helpful

Kingfisher

Reuben ELLIOTT 1867 - 1935 Whitecroft / Pillowell (reply)

unknown — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:06:27 +0000

Thanks again for all this info, it's prior to 1871 that I was having problems

Thanks, Kingfisher

Reuben ELLIOTT b1867 (reply)

unknown — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:03:38 +0000

This is a mine of information, I have used the PR's database, but I must be doing something wrong - I keep getting nil results. Thanks for researching this line for me, you have been a great help

Thanks again, Kingfisher

ELLIOTT/PRIDE - Newington Bagpath, Glos (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:27:29 +0000

1841 Census - Newington Bagpath

ELLIOTT

Daniel - 45 Ag. Lab - all born in County
Priscilla - 40
John - 19
Hannah - 15
Emma - 13
Mary - 11
George - 5
Jane - 1

1851 Census, Bagpath

transcribed as ELLIOTTE

Daniel - 56 - born Shipton Moyne
Percilla - 51 - born Wotton
Hannah - 25 - born Bagpath
George - 15 - ploughboy
Daniel - 10 months, grandchild

1851 Census, Kingscote
New Bagpath

ELLIOTT

John - 29, Ag Lab. born Shipton
Fanny - 21 - born Owlpen
Elizabeth - 2 - born Bagpath

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1841 Census, Newinton Bagpath

transcribed as TIDE

PRIDE

George - 35 - born Owlpen
Martha - 35
Thomas - 18
George - 16
Joseph - 13
Fanny - 11
Angeline - 9
Ambrose - 7
Kezia - 3
Rebecca - 1

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1851 Census, Newington Bagpath

PRIDE

George - 47 - Ag Lab. born Owlpen
Ambrose - 16 - born Dursley
Rebecca - 11
Elizth - 9
Henry - 7

Reuben ELLIOTT 1867 - 1935 Whitecroft / Pillowell (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 07:22:50 +0000

It would be a great help if a Reuben was one of the other Elliott Children, as this is the line I am following

Name: Reuben Elliott
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1867
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 23

1871
John Elliott 50
Fanny Elliott 40
William Elliott 19
Frederick Elliott 17
Charles Elliott 13
Nelson Elliott 11
Edward Elliott 6
Reanton Elliott 4
Albert L Elliott 2
Jane Helena Elliott 1

1881
John Elliott abt 1822 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Head Newland, Gloucestershire
Fanny Elliott abt 1831 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newland, Gloucestershire
Edwin Elliott abt 1866 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Reuben Elliott abt 1867 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Thomas Elliott abt 1868 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire
Jane Elliott abt 1870 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newland, Gloucestershire
Frank Elliott abt 1875 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Son Newland, Gloucestershire

1891
Reuben Elliot abt 1867 Newland, Gloucestershire, England Patient Aylburton, Gloucestershire

Name: Reuben Elliott
Name: Sarah Robins
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1893
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume Number: 11a
Page Number: 77

1901
Reuben Elliott abt 1867 Newland Parish, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Monmouthshire
Sarah Elliott abt 1866 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Monmouthshire
William Elliott abt 1897 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Sidney Elliott abt 1899 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Monmouthshire
Frances Elizabeth Elliott abt 1900 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean, Monmouthshire

1911 Pillowell
Reuben Elliot 45
Sarah Elliot 46
William Elliot 14
Sidney Elliot 12
Frances Elizabeth Elliot 11
Gilbert Elliot 6
Frederick Elliot 4
Mary Elliot 1

Name: Reuben Elliott
Birth Date: abt 1867
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1935
Age at Death: 68
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 19

Reuben ELLIOTT b1867 (reply)

Jefff — Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:32:56 +0000

Hi, welcome to this great website !

Did you know the huge PRs database is free to search ?.

From it I find the following(with soundex box ticked for both spellings):

Record_ID: 167237
Entry_Number: 229
Year: 1867
Month: Mar
Day: 3
Parents_Surname: ELLIOTT
Child_Forenames: Reuben
Fathers_Forenames: John
Mothers_Forenames: Fanny
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Whitecroft
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: John Mann
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: [1]Son of [2]Born January 26th 1867
Notes:
Register_Reference:
Page_Number: 62
Parish_Chapel: Monmouth Wesleyan Methodist
Soundex: E430

And:

Record_ID: 301985
Entry_Number: 457
Year: 1935
Month: Dec
Day: 7
Surname: ELLIOTT
Forenames: Reuben
Residence: Pillowell
Age_at_death: 68
Officiating_Minister: C R Williams Vicar
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P348 IN 1/18
Page_No:
Parish_Chapel: Viney Hill
Soundex: E430

Using the advanced search (link at bottom of main PR search page) and searching for all Baptisms of John Elliot on the site I find:

39531 1863 ELLIOTT Frederick, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Collier, Lydney
39532 1863 ELLIOTT Charles, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Collier, Lydney
39533 1863 ELLIOTT Nelson, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Collier, Lydney
39534 1863 ELLIOTT Deremiah, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Collier, Lydney
3811 1865 ELLIOTT Edwin John, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Labourer, Bream
167237 1867 ELLIOTT Reuben, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Monmouth, Wesleyan Methodist
4106 1870 ELLIOTT Amelia Jane, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Collier, Bream
4107 1870 ELLIOTT Albert Thomas, John & Fanny, Whitecroft, Collier, Bream

Clearly you will find more details on each specific record.

Hopefully this site will carry more relevant PRs for them.

With respect to your initial query re John & Fanny's marriage, are you aware of the excellent FreeBMD website ?. As work-in-progress it's incomplete for some areas of the country but always worth a try, searching Marriages for John Elliott gave the following result:

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1846 (>99%)
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Elliott John Tetbury 11 589
Pride Fanny Tetbury 11 589

Similarly for Reuben:

Surname Given Name District Volume Page Transcribers
Births Mar 1867
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ELLIOTT Reuben. Monmouth 11a 23 Leggy
Elliott Reuben Monmouth 11a 23 365MemaBusEdj

(ie Birth was registered at Monmouth (ie western side of Dean) within the Quarter upto March 1867).

Reuben's probable Marriage:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
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Elliott Reuben Monmouth 11a 77
James Mary Ann Monmouth 11a 77
Price Milson Monmouth 11a 77
ROBINS Sarah Monmouth 11a 77

(Sorry !, FreeBMD cannot tell you which of these two was his wife, need to buy the Certificate for that; apart from comparing with other sites etc).

And finally:

Surname Given Name Age District Volume Page Transcriber
Deaths Dec 1935
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Elliott Reuben 68 Monmouth 11a 19 Peaklander

Which ties-in nicely with "our" sites PRs.

This may help you in future,
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=35197

Happy Hunting !

John ELLIOTT/Fanny PRIDE (reply)

unknown — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:07:48 +0000

Many thanks,lots of info - the Elliott children's names match those that I have. It would be a great help if a Reuben was one of the other Elliott Children, as this is the line I am following

John ELLIOTT/Fanny PRIDE (reply)

m p griffiths — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:17:21 +0000

for starters....

Gloucestershire BDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

John Elliott, married Fanny PRIDE, Cirencester, Newington Bagpath, St Bartholomew - 1846

1861 Census, West Dean

Pillowell

ELLIOTT

John - 41 - Coal Miner, born Shipton Maine, Glos
Fanny - 30 - born Glos Owlpen
William - 9 - born Glos. Bagpath
Frederick - 6 - born Blakeney
Charles - 3 - born West Dean - Glos BDM - FOD - Monmouth Coleford - 1857
Whelston Elliott - 1 - born West Dean - (Nelson - 1859 - FOD, Coleford)

Gloucestershire Baptism CD

Baptism at Shipton Moyne St John the Baptist

ELLIOTT

John - 2 September 1821, parents Daniel (labourer) & Priscilla (nee WEBB*)

sister

Elizabeth - 2 September 1823

Marriage at Ozleworth - Daniel ELLIOTT of Shipton Moyne married Priscilla WEBB - 7 May 1821 by Banns.
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and baptism at Owlpen Holy Cross

PRIDE

Fanny - 5 August 1830 - George (Weaver) & Martha (nee SHERWOOD) **- residence: Owlpen

siblings christened at Owlpen

Ambrose (residence: Dursley) - 20 July 1834
these were baptised living in Owlpen

Angelina - 21 March 1832
Fanny - 5 August 1830
George - 2 July 1825
Joseph - 12 August 1828
Thomas - 14 September 1823

Gloucestershire Marriage Index CD

George PRIDE married Martha SHERWOOD at Owlpen - 24 january 1823 by banns

John Elliott

unknown — Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:07:44 +0000

Does anyone have any marriage details for John Elliott, Born approx.1821 whom married Fanny , Surname unknown - This marriage would be about 1850.
They had 9 (NINE) children between 1852 & 1875

Kingfisher