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Not sure if I have the right person but I think Llyod might be my first cousin. My dad is Francis Zahra-Hansell sister Inez dormer .

Be good to get in touch .
Regards
Mark

My brother Colin was killed in 1985 . My sister Christine Lynn Wheeler is alive and had two children . Devin and Jessica . Jessica was murdered around 1996 .

I am married and have two sons Colin Zahra-Hansell and Graham Zahra-Hansell

My name is Mark Zahra-Hansell. My dad is Francis Zahra-Hansell ( Son of Dorthy Warpole)

Francis Zahra-Hansell is married to Caryl Mary Zahra-Hansell ( Harris) Maiden Name

My Brother Colin Zahra-Hansell was killed in an aeroplane crash back in 1985. My sister , Christine Lynn Wheeler ( was Zahra-Hansell ) resides in Botswana . I reside in Canada.

Anne was my fathers sister whom I have never met.

Inez dormer ( Warpole ) also my fathers sister is married to Raymond Dormer and have three children ( stephen, Lloyd, and Dilly )

Hope this fills in some blanks

I hope we could keep corresponding about
Our great grandmother Annie Davis and her parents John Davis
and Rebecca Glover.

I've managed to get a picture off John who is quite talk and Rebecca.
Looks on the small build like grandmother Dorothy.

Hope to hear from you sometime

Kind Regards
Zahra

I've since logged in on my profile Username, which allows e.mail contact.

Would you be happy to do the same, then I can ask questions about living family members.

Kind Regards
Zahra

I tired with know joy so I deleted the post.
Will get back to you soon.

Kind Regards
Zahra

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Just looked at your post dated Oct 24th 2016 of Harry Z Hansell and Dorothy W Wintle.
also the children dates of births.

I noticed March 1930 for my mother Ann Eilla Hansell is incorrect. it is December 1929

Kind Regards
Zahra

your very welcome and thank you for your reply. I have since spoken to Gabriella and more than happy to help you where I can.

I await your response.

Kind Regards
Yvette

So pleased that we are in contact.
I gather you've taken over from Gabriella.

Thank you for uncle Francis information

This is just a short note,will get back to you soon

Kind regards
Zahra

Thanks
Zahra

firstly please allow me to introduce myself I am Yvette Boucher nee Dormer, my Mother is Inez Dormer nee Hansell. My grandmother was Dorothy Walpole Hansell nee Wintle, I have two brothers called Stephen and Lloyd and you of course have already spoken to my sister-in-law Gabriella Dormer.

I am not sure if Gabriella has informed you yet but my Uncle Francis is still alive and he did have three children and they were born in South Africa, their names are Colin, Mark and Christine although she is known as Dusty. My uncle's wife is call Carole.

Regards
Yvette

Meanwhile, out of curiosity, is the Hereford link relevant to you ?

Thanks, J.

Thank you for the information.As you see I've just started with the on the form recently.

Francis Hansell is my uncle and lives in South Africa.
His children would have been born there.

Regards
Zahra

Please could you tell me if my mothers brother Francis b 1937 is still alive and what are his 3 children's names.

Zahra

Hi Zahra,
on the assumption you know Francis's surname (I've read back thro this thread but don't think it's been mentioned for sure), and IF he then married and you know his wife's maiden name, then you may be able to find their children's names using FreeBMD which offers good coverage within our area. Knowing the dates then GlosBMD may give further detail if the events were within Gloucestershire.

The FreeBMD website is fussy insofar as all names input for searching must be spelt exactly as per the website's database, it won't give near-misses like GlosBMD does, but it it still very helpful in other ways.

For example, I can search for all Birth registrations of people first name "Francis" between say 1936 and 1938. This gives over 6000 results, too many for the site to display; but if we now filter them to just include those births registered in Gloucestershire we get a more managable list to browse through. Because the results are all post 1911, each includes the mother's maiden name. This list includes a huge variety of surnames, most of which are clearly not relevant, but hopefully something springs out, I'm thinking it may be Wintle, or Davis etc.

By screen-searching the results for "Wintle", as a first guess, I found the following results which I suspect are relevant.

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page
Births Mar 1937
Hansell Francis Wintle Cheltenham 6a 603
Zabra-Hansell Francis Wintle Cheltenham 6a 603

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Apologies if wrong, but it seems reasonable to suspect these are one and the same person, and your Francis.

This record shows the Birth was registered (so not necessarily occurred) sometime during the Jan/Feb/March Quarter of 1937, to get more a more precise date one needs to order the Birth Ceritifate.

If I now search this record on GlosBMD, it gives the following record. This suggests the birth actually occurred in 1936. We often seen records like this, suggesting the birth was in late 1936, probably December, so not surprisingly given the busy time of year and possible wintery weather etc, the birth wasn't actually registered by a family member until sometime into the New Year, aka the "Jan/Feb/Mar" Quarter.
This record also confirms it's one and the same person/event

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
ZAHRA-HANSELL Francis WINTLE 1936 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 66A 473
HANSELL Francis WINTLE 1936 Cheltenham Cheltenham, Cheltenham 66A 473

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

Thus-far I've been unable to find a Marriage record for Francis, hence cannot find any birth records for his children. However it's likely they may still be found within the FreeBMD site - perhaps the unusual surname, with it's likelihood of mis-spelt records, is a contributor, but hopefully methodical & patient searching will give results.

That said, a general internet search of this name does give the following entry. I'm not a subscribed member so cannot give you any more specific information, even if this FoDFH forum allowed me to do so.

Francis Zahra-Hansell in Hereford, HR3
Based on 2010, 2014-18 Electoral Roll
Street address available
Hereford
Hereford And Worcester
HR3
Full postcode available
Together with:
Caryl M Zahra-Hansell

etc, see
https://www.192.com/atoz/people/zahra-hansell/francis/

I hope this is of some help to you.

Finally, please be reminded this FoDFH forum is NOT intended for finding "living relatives". Please see http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=10668
I do hope my post is acceptable in this respect, as an attempt to show beginners how useful the various online sites can be for researching C20th records as well as earlier ones.
In this respect I am pleased Zahra and Gabriella have already indicated they'll continue this discussion away from the forum using the private e-mail system.

Good luck to you both,
J

If you want to be contactable by email you need to enable that in your profile. At present you don't have that option enabled.

Same applies to Gabriella.

Thank you for responding to me. I'm Zahra and my Christian name is Janice. I should have stuck to one name only.

I've got some information which you may or may not have on Francis Wintle and Ann E Davis as well as John Davis and Rebecca Glover who are my gg grand- parents who lived at York Buildings, Tuffly Lawn, Gloucester.

I would like to communicate with you through our e-mails, rather than the open forum if you are happy to do that.

Please could you tell me if my mothers brother Francis b 1937 is still alive and what are his 3 children's names.

Kind regards
Zahra