Can see the original Certificate of Naturalization - for George Powell TRIGG - 5 May 1877

says be was born 13 June 1827 in Gloucestershire.

and also

Superior Court, New York County - 15 June 1857 (date of Naturalization)

For George P TRIGG - 43 Dominick Street, N.Y.C.

and occupation of witness: Richard R ROE - who seems to have married George's sister.

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Ancestry - can't open

New York City, Complete Marriage Index 1600s - 1800s

Richard R ROE
Spouse: Maria T TRIGG

However, by Googling

Index to Marriages and Deaths in the New York Herald: 1835-1855

https://books.google.co.uk

24 June 1852

George P TRIGG - Marian L NEWHOUSE - New York City 24 June 1852

and

15 March 1849

Maria T TRIGG -
Spouse: Richard R ROE - again New York City

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Googling - can't see to find this as yet
.... family search

New York Passenger Lists 1820-1891

Mary Powell. 1791, children (9) . Ann Trigg 1808, Eliza Trigg 1810, Bia Trigg ..... George Powell Trigg

2) Benjamin Trigg b 1791 Mitcheldean to Benjamin Trigg and Priscilla Welsh (married 1779 Newland)

For what it's worth I have the line you are investigating under 1) above, but you may see from my previous post in this thread - I was looking at this branch a long time ago and cannot at the moment see any other relevant indicators.

Regards
-Colin

Not sure, if Absalom TRIGG went off to the States

as

there is also a burial at New York Municial Deaths (on Family Search)

of Marie F ROE, (Widow) aged 81 on the 22 March 1911 c1830

her parents name given as : Absolum TRIGG birthplace, England, and his wife Mary POWELL

TRIGG

George P - aged 54 Produce Merchant
Mary N - wife - 50 - born New Jersey, United Stated
Benjamin N - son - 24 - ditto
George P - aged 23 - ditto
Jane N - daughter - 21

etc etc

Family Search - also has his death

George Powell Trigg

20 March 1909

Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States,

aged 83, married, white, born 1826 England

burial date - 23 Mar 1909, Greenwood Cemetery

father's name: Absoleum

Mother's name: Mary Powell

Family Search (you just have to register) - this website - now gives family trees - so searching for Abaslom TRIGG - born 1789

it lists his family tree and all the children of him and Mary POWELL (links to her non-conformist baptism)

children

Ann - 1808
Eliza - 1810
Bia - 1813
Mary - 1813
Elizabeth - 1819
Hannah - 1821
George - 1824 - 1825
George Powell TRIGG - 1827

(and then links each person)

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Looking at Ancestry - George Powell TRIGG ended up in American

He's on the 1880 United Census, born abt 1826, England

and Newspapers Obituary etc et

(I don't belong to Worldwide Ancestry)

Gloucestershire, England, Land Tax Records - 1713-1833

(a number of TRIGGs) just search for surname as christian names shortened i.e. BN for Benjamin - or even Mrs Trigg etc etc) a couple of TRIGGE

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Name: Apl TRIGG (Absalom - shortened)

Year: 1825

Residence Year: 1825

Residence Place: Lea, Gloucestershire, England

Hundred: St Briavels

Owner: Thos LEWIS

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Name: Abs TRIGG

Residence Year: 1826

Residence Place: Lea, Gloucestershire, England

Hundred: St Briavels

Owner: Thos Lewis

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Name: Absm. TRIGG

Residence Year: 1830

Residence Place: Gloucestershire, England

Hundred: St Briavels

Owner: Rd.Seudamore

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Name: Absm TRIGG

Residence Year: 1831

Residence Place: Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire

Hundred: St Briavels

Owner: Rd. Sendamore (think it's Scudmore)

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Name: Absolm. TRIGG

Residence Year: 1832

Residence Place: Gloucestershire, England

Hundred: St Briavels

Owner: Richd Seudamore

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renting House and Land

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Uk Poll Books & Electoral Register 1833

TRIGG Absalom - Lea Brook, Freehold house and land, near Drybrook

Gloucestershire Marriage Licences Allegations & Marriage Bonds

Search for TRIGG with soundex on - sometimes the surname is spelt TRIGGE

If they married by Licence etc - much more information i.e. age, occupation is available.
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Absolom TRIGGE married Mary POWELL at English Bicknor - 7 December 1807

witnesses: John TRIGGE? and mark of Jemima TRIGGE

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Searching the Gloucestershire Genelogical Database - Absolom and his wife where non-conformists living in East Dean and he was a Farmer - the baptism of their children is also on this site, and his baptism at Lea - 7 Jun 1789 at Lea, Gloucestershire, parents: Benjamin and Priscilla.

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There is quite a list of the TRIGG's being non-conformists....

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If you Google

Men in Armour for Gloucestershire 1608

which is on the website,

Coaley.net

Search for TRIGG/TRIGGE and this shows a few men - listed with their approx age, and height - etc.

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There is a Public Members Tree on Ancestry -

Absalom & Mary - had a daughter Mary - christened at Mitcheldean - 20 November 1814 (the couple seem to disappear)

However, they give a marriage at Abenhall, 11 Jun 1836 to Job HALE

Already been very kindly directed to various links but its just confusing me more. Does anybody have any info regarding Benjamin and Mary's parents? Also the Absolam connection is puzzling.
Thanks very much

Your John TRIGG (b ca 1828 Iron Miner Green Bottom in 1851) who married Phoebe SIER (Dec 1848) is not the same person as my John TRIGG (b ca 1819 Collier Harry Hill in 1851) who married Ann MATTHEWS (Sep 1838). Just to confuse things further both couples had a daughter called Mary Ann born around 1849 one of whom was my g-grandmother.

If we have a connection it must be earlier in the TRIGG family tree. Note I have found the John TRIGG = Phoebe SIER family in the Census on several occasions whilst looking for the John TRIGG = Ann MATTHEWS family and can let you have the PRO References if you have not already found them.

Regards, Dave

Hi there Dave, I am descended from John Trigg and Phoebe Sier.
Their daughter Esther Eliza Trigg married George Reed
and their daughter Phoebe Ann married a Francis John Vowles (my Maiden name)
their eldest son George was my grandfather and we all carry the middle name Reid (misspelt) to commemorate Phoebe Ann who died weeks after giving birth to their daughter Winifred Vowles.
So I guess John and Phoebe are my great-great-great-grandparents...
For some unknown reason , the Reed side of the family had nothing to do with the children of that marriage even after Francis John was killed in Flanders in 1917, leaving tham orphaned.
The children including my grandfather George were raised by his Vowles aunts in and around Backwell, Somerset.
Phoebe Ann and Francis John's marriage took place in Cardiff where all the children were born. I have only just discovered this side of the family , (yesterday!)due to a miss transciption of Vowles into Powles on the 1911 Cardiff census. I found them by tracing the address that my grandad was born at.
I know its a long shot, but if anyone on this site has any clue as to the reason of the families falling out I would be very grateful to be let in on the secret !
All the best, Kate Sheppard (nee Reid-Vowles)

Your VOWLES were Inn Keeper/ farmers and the REEDS were iron miners - perhaps Phoebe was "not good enough" for Francis (?)

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=36763

SIER / TRIGG / TINGLE
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=18946

Year: 1848
Month: Oct
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: TRIGG
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age: 22
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Miner
Grooms_Residence: Green Bottom
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Trigg
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: James
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Garden
Brides_Surname: SCIER
Brides_Forenames: Pheobe
Brides_Age: 26
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Green Bottom
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Scier
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: John
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Mason
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both Mark
Witness_1: William Colwell
Witness_2: Susan Scier
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Henry G. Nicholls
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P109 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Drybrook

John TRIGG (1828) = Phoebe SCIER (or SIER) (1821) Westbury on Severn 1848 Dec 11 713. They are in the 1851 Census (HO107-1959-254-27) with daughter May (sic) A TRIGG (1849) living at Green Bottom, East Dean, with John shown as Iron Miner. They are next door (same page) to Phoebe's parents John (1777) and Margaret (1781) SIER (SEN in the index but clearly SIER on the original).

They are at the same address in 1861 (RG09-1756-33-7) and 1871 (RG10-2601-24-7). In 1861 John SIER had died and they are all in the same household with Margaret SIER as Head and John TRIGG (Iron Miner) as Son-in-law, with Phoebe and children Mary (1849), George (1852), Hester (1855) and Margaret (1860). By 1871 John TRIGG had died (probably Westbury on Severn 1862 Dec 6A 154) because Phoebe is now shown as Widow and only Esther and Margaret are at home. The next entry on the next page in the 1871 Census (RG10-2601-24-8) shows James REYNOLDS (1843), Mary Ann REYNOLDS (1849) and George Edwin REYNOLDS (1871). Their marriage was in 1868 (Westbury on Severn 1868 Dec 6A 420) where for some reason Mary Ann is indexed as TREGG.

Dave

Dave

Further to my earlier posting, also email freom yourself advising that Ada Trigg was an illegitimate daughter of Lucy Trigg, before her marriage to John Clalford. For continuity of the thread, I need to update my earlier posting.

I have been re-checking the marriage between "a" Mary Ann Trigg and James Reynolds in 1868, which I previously had attributed to Mary Ann Trigg daughter of John Trigg & Ann Matthews. I had been fooled by the Meredith Witnesses who had associations with this family. I have noted that the marriage certificate you sent me of the marriage between Mary Ann Trigg & John Harrington that Mary Ann is shown as spinster, also the witnesses include Emily Trigg, which is probably her sister.

The final piece of evidence that I show below is the 1871 Census entry for John Trigg, which shows he is clearly not deceased as is the John Trigg father at the 1868 wedding between Mary Ann Trigg & James Reynolds. Also on the 1871 Census is Ada Trigg, illegitimate daughter of Lucy :

1841 Census Bailey Hill
John Trigg 23 Coal Miner
Ann 20
Lucy 1

1851 Census
TRIGG John 32 Collier East Dean
Ann 33 Ruardean
Lucy 11 Scholar East Dean
Timothy 8 Scholar East Dean
Silvy 6 East Dean
George 4 East Dean
Mary Ann 1 East Dean

1861 Census East Dean RG9 1754 205
John Trigg 43 Colliery Bailiff East Dean
Anne 44 East Dean
Timothy 19 Collier East Dean
George 14 Collier East Dean
Marjorie 10 East Dean
Elizabeth 8 East Dean
John 6 East Dean
Emily 2 East Dean

1871 Census East Dean
John Trigg Wdr abt 1820 Head Ruardean
Mary A Trigg abt 1850 Daughter Ruardean
John Marfell Trigg abt 1856 Son Ruardean
Emily Jane Trigg abt 1860 Daughter Ruardean
Ada Anna Trigg abt 1863 Granddaughter Ruardean

Apologies for getting it wrong.

Jim Ashton