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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone for the information!</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And sometimes (in C17th) &quot;stone collier&quot; and &quot;wood collier&quot; are used to differentiate between a coal miner and a charcoal burner.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might also find it helpful to know that someone employed as a miner might be referred to as a collier in records,e.g. census etc. Though coal miners are also referred to as coal miners, miners, and coal hewers.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The answer lies in the cognate &quot;coaler.&quot;</p>
<p>Some etymologies say that the origin of the words &quot;collier&quot; and &quot;colliery&quot; lay in both coal-gathering and charcoal burning, so the prevalence in the Forest of &quot;colliers&quot; and &quot;collieries&quot;, rather than mines or pits, may be explained by the considerable amount of charcoal burning that historically went on in an afforested area beneath which lay a considerable amount of coal.</p>
<p>The connotation is blackness, a colley being a black-faced sheep and the commonest collie dogs being substantially black.   In some parts of the West Country, blackbirds have been known as &quot;colleys&quot; (which in turn may explain the variant in &quot;The Twelve Days of Christmas&quot; between &quot;colley birds&quot; and &quot;calling birds.&quot;)</p>
<p>As Slowhands says, a coal-carrying boat is sometimes called a collier.   It is also sometimes called a coaler.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are  colleries and coal mines the same thing?  And are colliers and coal miners the same?  I grew up in coal mining country and now live in another coal mining area, but have never heard them referred to as colleries.   Montana girl</p>
</blockquote><p>It is I suspect a British idiom - Colliery = Coal Mine &amp; Collier = Coal miner</p>
<p>we also use Collier in a different context to mean a small coal carrying ship !</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are  colleries and coal mines the same thing?  And are colliers and coal miners the same?  I grew up in coal mining country and now live in another coal mining area, but have never heard them referred to as colleries.   Montana girl</p>
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