Hi Robin

Saw your message about James Bird

My ancestor was. James. Bird. In the. 1841 census. He. Was. Living. In. St Brides. Newent. Llangevenny

Could we have a. Connection. Regards. Sue.

My. Grandfather. Thomas. Bird. James son. Also. Came. To. Aberdare. To. Live

Close to the FoD but not in it ....

In 1870-72, John Marius Wilson's Imperial Gazetteer of England and Wales described Llandevenny like this:

LLANDEVENNY, a hamlet in Netherwent-St. Bride parish, Monmouth; on the South Wales railway, 6¼ miles E by S of Newport. Acres, 252. Real property, £518. Pop., 42. Houses, 9.

1841 Llandeveney Newport Wales
James Bird abt 1801 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire Farmer
Ellen Bird abt 1796 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire
Thomas Bird abt 1826 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire
John Bird abt 1839 Monmouthshire, Wales St Brides Netherwent, Monmouthshire

1851 Llanddevenny
James Bird 68 Monmouthshire Ag lab
Ellen Bird 58 Llangiven
John Bird 22 Llandevenny
Thomas Liddon 28
Elen Liddon 27
William Liddon 3

<><> ???
Name: James Bird
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1857
Registration district: Chepstow
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 3

1861
Eleanor Bird abt 1793 Langemin, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
William Bird abt 1821 Landwenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
John Bird abt 1839 Landwenny, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Llandevenny, Monmouthshire
Emma Bird abt 1847 Redwick, Monmouthshire, Wales Granddaughter Llandevenny, Monmouthshire

<><><><><

1871 Mountain Ash
Thomas Bird 45
Sarah Bird 36
David Bird 16
James Bird 11
John Bird 5
Sarah J Bird 6 Months

1881 4 Upper Row
Thomas Bird abt 1826 Llandavenny, Monmouth, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Sarah Bird abt 1833 Bath, Somerset, England Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
James Bird abt 1860 Risca, Monmouth, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
John Bird abt 1866 Llanwonno, Glamorgan, Wales Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Eliza Ann Bird abt 1877 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan

1891
Thomas Bird abt 1825 Parish Llandavery, Monmouthshire, Wales Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Sarah Bird abt 1831 Babyton Parish, Somerset, England Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
Riza Ann Bird abt 1877 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
Catherine Bird abt 1871 Merthyr Parish Troedyalin Daughter-in-law Aberdare, Glamorgan

Saw your message about James Bird

My ancestor was. James. Bird. In the. 1841 census. He. Was. Living. In. St Brides. Newent. Llangevenny

Could we have a. Connection. Regards. Sue.

My. Grandfather. Thomas. Bird. James son. Also. Came. To. Aberdare. To. Live

I think there is a way of exchanging secure email addresses by clicking on the envelope icon but I'm putting this message 'out there' for somebody else to confirm the mechanics of such contact.

Yes that is the way of establishing a direct private off message board exchange

Looking again at my family tree I think I misclaculated the number of great-grandfathers (easily done!) in my previous message...I think your Samuel Bird is the son of another Samuel who himself is the son of a William Bird who is my great-great-great grandfather and possibly yours! The next generation back, led by another William and his brother Francis left the Forest of Dean about 1780 to settle at Priston and Newton St Loe. But their cousin, James (bap. at St Briavels in 1770) was also believed to have gone to Clutton c.1795 in search of work in the North Somerset coalfields - it is possible that this James could be your direct line of ancestry in which case we would have to go back to Edward Bird bap.1672 to share a g-g-g-g-g-g grandfather!
All very interesting, even exciting.
I think there is a way of exchanging secure email addresses by clicking on the envelope icon but I'm putting this message 'out there' for somebody else to confirm the mechanics of such contact.
Regards

Chris

To contact Robin offboard just click on the envelope icon next to his name in his posting.

I'm happy to share more information with you but not sure how the email/telephone contact stuff works

Chris Bird

Hi,
On the 1840 census my GGGrandfather Samuel Bird with his wife Priscilla(Nee Dagger), is given as living in Clutton in Somerset where Samuel was a Lime Burner. No details of his parents are given.
Does anyone know if his family originated in the Forest of Dean as I have been told that that is where many of those who worked in the mines in Somerset came from originally.
Thanks for your help.
Robin

1841
Samuel Bird abt 1806 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Pricilla Bird abt 1806 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
George Bird abt 1826 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Phebe Bird abt 1827 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Jesse Bird abt 1831 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Mercy Bird abt 1833 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Thomas Bird abt 1835 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Francis Bird abt 1837 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset
Sarah Bird abt 1839 Somerset, England Clutton, Somerset

1851
Saml Bird abt 1801 Paulton, Somerset, England Head Clutton, Somerset
Priscilla Bird abt 1805 Clutton, Somerset, England Wife Clutton, Somerset
Francis Bird abt 1836 Clutton, Somerset, England Son Clutton, Somerset
Sarah Bird abt 1839 Clutton, Somerset, England Daughter Clutton, Somerset
Elizabeth Bird abt 1841 Clutton, Somerset, England Daughter Clutton, Somerset
Edwin Bird abt 1847 Clutton, Somerset, England Son Clutton, Somerset

1861
Samuel Bird abt 1803 Poulton, Somerset, England Head Aberdare, Glamorgan
Pricilla Bird abt 1805 Clutton, Somerset, England Wife Aberdare, Glamorgan
Sarah Bird abt 1839 Clutton, Somerset, England Daughter Aberdare, Glamorgan
Edwin Bird abt 1846 Clutton, Somerset, England Son Aberdare, Glamorgan
Alfred Rogers abt 1859 Aberdare, Glamorgan, Wales Boarder Aberdare, Glamorgan

Name: Samuel Bird
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1885
Age at Death: 86
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 402

Name: Priscilla Bird
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Inferred County: Glamorganshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 339