Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Martha WORKMAN 1856 Chaxhill

Martha WORKMAN 1856 Chaxhill (reply)

A Swan — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 14:00:56 +0000

Hi Frank - thanks for your reply.
The 'oldest' piece of information that we have is the marriage certificate of Thomas Workman and Betsy Williams in which Thomas's father is given as 'Swanton Workman - occupation - Engine Pipe maker'. Regret this is the only information that we have on the Workman family but would obviously like to find out more.
Regards,
ASwan

Thomas WORKMAN (1822 Walcot) (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:21:53 +0000

Sorry I do not have the Cert ( suggested as SWANTON elsewhere)

The wedding info is Thomas WORKMAN marries Betsey WILLIAMS in Charlton Kings, 1848. Both are given as of full age but from census info an estimate of the likely birth of Thomas is 1825 - 1830. The father of Thomas is illegible - probably Swanton WORKMAN. I guess he'd be born about 1800 and was an engine pipe maker (Thomas was a cordwainer).

however this may help 13th Foot Regiment
- later the Light Infantry:-

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

Item details WO 97/348/69

Context : quick reference
WO Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Division within WO Records of the Royal Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals
WO 97 Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents
Subseries within WO 97 1760-1854: discharge papers arranged by regiment, but each described at item level. (WO 97/1-1271)
WO 97/348 13th Foot: Ste - You

Record Summary
Scope and content THOMAS WORKMAN
Born WALCOTT, Somerset
Served in 13th Foot Regiment
Discharged aged 35

Thomas WORKMAN (1822 Walcot) m Betsy WILLIAMS (1822 Lydney) (reply)

Frank Workman — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:15:38 +0000

Many thanks for your very quick reply. could you please give me Thomas's parents names etc?

Thomas WORKMAN (1822 Walcot) m Betsy WILLIAMS (1822 Lydney) (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:51:21 +0000

some typos I think this is the one :-

Name: Betsey Williams
Name: Thomas Workman
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 259

THOMAS WORKMAN
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Marriages:
Spouse: BETSEY WILLIAMS
Marriage: 03 MAY 1846 Charlton Kings, Gloucester, England
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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M020661 1754 - 1885 0856939 Film 6911597 Film
Sheet: 00

Year: 1822
Month: May
Day: 5
Parents_Surname: WILLIAMS
Child_Forenames: Betsy
Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Eliz[abe]th
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Lidney
Occupation: Carpenter
Officiating_Minister: Wm. Jones
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: D[aughte]r of
Notes:
Register_Reference: PFC 209 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 60
Parish_Chapel: Lydney

Martha WORKMAN 1856 Chaxhill (reply)

Frank Workman — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:25:50 +0000

Hello,

I have read your entry regarding the Marriage of Thomas Workman And Betsy Williams, In 1844.The christian name of Thomas's father is Swanton he is my 3rd Great Grand Father.
Could I please ask you question? Could you confirm Thomas's parents names for me please ??

Thank you

Frank Workman.

Swanton WORKMAN from Somerset (reply)

A Swan — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 02:45:27 +0000

Thanks very much for all the help that you've given - looking again at the certificate, Swanton is a very good likeness.
Thanks again for the info on the Censuses.
Regards,
Pamela

Swanton WORKMAN from Walcot / Bath SOM (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 10:57:46 +0000

Looks like he is from Somerset - no telling how that accent would be understood in the Forest !

It may be Swanton (??) as in

Name: Tom Swanton Workman
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Year of Registration: 1896
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 11
District: Newport M
County: Glamorgan, Gwent, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 152

Name: Thomas Workman
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bedwelty
County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 71

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Year: 1859
Month: Apr
Day: 12
Parents_Surname: WORKMAN
Child_Forenames: Tom
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Betsy
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Westbury
Occupation: Shoemaker
Officiating_Minister: Chris Jay Jones Vicar
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes: No indication of ages given
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/15
Page_Number: 11
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

Who is very probably the son of Thomas / Betsey born East Dean 1852! ( not Thomas Joseph from Newnham)

Name: Archibald Workman
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Westbury On Severn
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 261

1891
Thomas Workman abt 1851 Gloucestershire, England Head Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Jane Workman abt 1854 Gloucestershire, England Wife Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Alfred Workman abt 1881 Gloucestershire, England Son Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Archibald Workman abt 1882 Gloucestershire, England Son Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Frank Workman abt 1890 Abercarne, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Susan Workman abt 1886 Abercarne, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire
Tom Workman abt 1884 Abercarne, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Mynyddyslwyn, Monmouthshire

1901
Thomas Workman abt 1849 Eastdeane, Gloucestershire, England Head Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Jane Workman abt 1852 Eastdeane, Gloucestershire, England Wife Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Alfred Workman abt 1882 Eastdeane, Gloucestershire, England Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Archibald Workman abt 1883 Eastdeane, Gloucestershire, England Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Arthur Workman abt 1900 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Brinley Workman abt 1891 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Edgar Workman abt 1891 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Edith Workman abt 1896 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Frank Workman abt 1890 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
George Workman abt 1893 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Son Abercarn, Monmouthshire
Susannah Workman abt 1887 Abercarn, Monmouthshire, Wales Daughter Abercarn, Monmouthshire

I 'll look around further , but here is an interesting group in the 1841 census

1841
Josh Workman abt 1791 Walcot, Somerset
Chas Workman abt 1821 Somerset, England Walcot, Somerset
Henry Workman abt 1826 Somerset, England Walcot, Somerset

I suspect this is Joseph Workman who in 1851 is in the Bath Workhouse.

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Researching the WORKMAN family from Walcot, Bath, particularly Thomas WORKMAN, born around 1819-1825 in Walcot, Bath (St Swithans), who was a shoemaker with connections to Gloucester, Cheltenham and subsequently moving to the Forest of Dean. Also seeking information on his father, Swanton WORKMAN born around 1790-1800, an engine pipe maker. Would be interested to hear from anyone with any connections to the Workman or Swanton surnames in the Bath area at this time.

Martha WORKMAN 1856 Chaxhill (reply)

A Swan — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:32:35 +0000

Thanks for such a quick answer!
Can I ask you something else - I have a copy of the marriage certificate of Thomas Workman and Betsy Williams in 1844 and am having difficulty in reading Thomas fathers' christian name but wonder if it might be something particular to the Forest of Dean. It looks something like 'Hoauton' or 'Staunton' - we are sure the last 3 or 4 digits are correct. Any ideas please?
Thanks and regards,
Pamela

Martha WORKMAN 1856 Chaxhill (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 09:12:21 +0000

starter for 10 !

Year: 1856
Month: Dec
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: WORKMAN
Child_Forenames: Martha
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Westbury
Occupation: Shoemaker
Officiating_Minister: Ch. Payne Crawford Curate
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P354 IN 1/14
Page_Number: 191
Parish_Chapel: Westbury on Severn

1841 Post Office Passage St Aldate Gloucester ?
Thomas Workman abt 1819 St Aldgate, Gloucestershire Shoe Maker

Name: Mary Sophia Workman
Year of Registration: 1848
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Cheltenham
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 11
Page: 191

1851
Thomas L Workman abt 1822 Bath Walest Wing, Somerset, England Head Westbury On Severn, Cordwainer
Betsey Workman abt 1825 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Emma S Workman abt 1850 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Mary S Workman abt 1848 Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

1861
Thomas Workman abt 1823 Bath, Somerset, England Lodger Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Betsey Workman abt 1822 Lidney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Workman abt 1855 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Emma Workman abt 1850 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Martha Workman abt 1856 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Mary Workman abt 1848 Charlton Kings, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire
Thomas Workman abt 1853 Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

1871
Thomas Workman abt 1824 Frome, Somerset, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Workman abt 1827 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Workman abt 1864 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Workman abt 1857 Chaxhill, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Tom Workman abt 1854 Northwood, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
Thos. Workman abt 1825 Bath, Somerset, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Elizh. Workman abt 1827 Lydney, Gloucestershire, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
George Workman abt 1865 Newnham, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire
Thomas Workman abt 1852 Westbury On Sev, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire

Martha WORKMAN 1856 Chaxhill

A Swan — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:51:37 +0000

Could somebody please help me with the following query.
I have my great great grandmother Martha Workman's Birth Certificate - born 8th January 1856 in Chaxhill and have found her baptism on this site with a register reference number of P354 IN 1/14. If I want to look for siblings of Martha would they have this same reference number as there seem to be a Thomas and Elizabeth and a Thomas and Betsy around the same time but with different references? (P354 IN 1/15)
Thanks.
Pamela