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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that you have raised this on the Gloucestershire List  and I have responded as follows:</p>
<p>This is a transcript of the 1871 Census entry for the Watkins Family:<br />
The Plump, East Dean, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Household Members<br />
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place<br />
William    Watkins    Head    -    Male    58    1813    -    Glamorgan, Wales<br />
Ann    Watkins    Wife    -    Female    39    1832    -    Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary    Watkins    Daughter    -    Female    19    1852    -    Gloucestershire, England<br />
Elizabeth    Watkins    Daughter    -    Female    17    1854    -    Gloucestershire, England<br />
James    Watkins    Son    -    Male    13    1858    -    Gloucestershire, England<br />
Henry    Watkins    Son    -    Male    11    1860    -    Gloucestershire, England<br />
Abiah    Watkins    Daughter    -    Female    6    1865    -    Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>Looking at the 1861 Census we find this family also at Plump Hill:<br />
1861 Census<br />
Plump Hill, East Dean, Westbury on Severn, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Household Members<br />
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place<br />
Ann    Davis    Head    Married    Female    29    1832    Charwomen    East Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Lea M H    Davis    Daughter    -    Female    10    1851    -    East Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Elizabeth E    Davis    Daughter    -    Female    8    1853    -    East Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
James    Davis    Son    -    Male    6    1855    -    East Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
George    Davis    Son    -    Male    4    1857    -    East Dean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Henry    Davis    Son    -    Male    2    1859    -    East Dean, Gloucestershire, England</p>
<p>The Gloucestershire BMD website at <a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx</a>  provides Mother's maiden name in Birth entries and we have the following:<br />
Child Surname    Child Forename    Mother's Former Name    Year    District    Office    Register    Entry<br />
DAVIS    Elizabeth    WHITE    1854    Forest of Dean    Westbury on Severn, Newnham    15    79   <br />
DAVIS    James    WHITE    1856    Forest of Dean    Westbury on Severn, Newnham    16    451<br />
DAVIS    George    WHITE    1858    Forest of Dean    Westbury on Severn, Newnham    18    404<br />
DAVIS    Henry William    WHITE    1860    Forest of Dean    Westbury on Severn, Newnham    20    417<br />
DAVIS    Abiah    WHITE    1865    Forest of Dean    Westbury on Severn, Newnham    25    411</p>
<p>Next is to find a DAVIS/WHITE marriage and we find this entry:<br />
Name:    Henry Davis<br />
Gender:    Male<br />
Marriage Age:    Full age<br />
Occupation: Painter<br />
Event Type:    Marriage<br />
Marriage Date:    11 Sep 1852<br />
Marriage Place:    Leckhampton, St Peter, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Father:    William Davis<br />
Spouse:    Ann White a Minor<br />
Father of Spouse: William White, Farmer<br />
(Image of the Marriage Register entry is available on Ancestry)</p>
<p>Given it is in the Cheltenham area and out of the Forest of Dean one may not be convinced it is Ann White from Plump Hill however when we search for Ann in the 1851 Census we find this entry:<br />
Gateway House, 11, High Street, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Household Members<br />
First name(s)    Last name    Relationship    Marital status    Sex    Age    Birth year    Occupation    Birth place<br />
Thomas    Higgs    Head    Married    Male    71    1780    Proprietor Of Houses    Gloucestershire, England<br />
Mary    Higgs    Wife    Married    Female    50    1801    -    Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Sarah    Freeman    Sister-In-Law    Married    Female    54    1797    Assistant In The House    Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Ann    White    Servant    Unmarried    Female    18    1833    House Maid    Mitcheldean, Gloucestershire, England<br />
Eliza    Yates    Servant    Unmarried    Female    16    1835    General Sevt    Birmingham, Warwickshire, England</p>
<p>Finally as Ann is living with William Watkins on 1871 we assume her husband Henry has either died or split from the family. This entry is in the Burial Register for Abenhall:<br />
Year:    1860<br />
Month:    Jun<br />
Day:    17<br />
Surname:    DAVIS<br />
Forenames:    Henry<br />
Residence:    East Dean<br />
Age_at_death:    30<br />
Officiating_Minister:    J. Davies<br />
Event:    Burial<br />
Cause_of_death:   <br />
Memoranda:   <br />
Notes:   <br />
Register_Reference:    P1 IN 1/11<br />
Page_No:    56<br />
Parish_Chapel:    Abenhall</p>
<p>Mike</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.  Thank you for your reply to my query about the WATKINS and WHITE connection.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also on the same page at Plump Hill (1841 census) we have a</p>
<p>William Wite age 15 and a few doors away a Philip Wite age 24 (coal miners)</p>
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1871 census for the White's is The Plump - assume correct family</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1841 Census Dean Forest <br />
Newham District 10<br />
Page 1 of 8</p>
<p>William Wite 34 - labourer<br />
Mary - 26<br />
Ann 9<br />
James 7<br />
Leah 4 - (christened 31.7.1836 Abbenhall)<br />
Esther 2 (  &quot;    &quot;           2.12.1838 Abbenhall)</p>
<p><br />
1851 Census, East Dean - District 3d</p>
<p>Plump Hill</p>
<p>Willm White - age 4? (second letter crossed through) - Quarry Man - Gloucs St Briavels<br />
Mary - age 37 - Abinghall<br />
James - 16 - Iron Miner - Abinghall<br />
Esther -  age 12 - Scholar - East Dean</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have Ann WHITE born abt 1832 the daughter of William WHITE &amp; Mary BENNETT.  She was bapt. in Abenhall in 1832.  In the 1871 census for East Dean I have found William &amp; Ann WATKINS and family on the same page as William &amp; Mary WHITE.  Ann WATKINS is listed as 39 years old born in East Dean.  I am thinking she is William &amp; Mary's daughter.  I can't seem to find anything that will prove it though.  Any ideas?  Thanks.</p>
<p>Bill White</p>
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