Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Comfort Hiam

Comfort Hiam (reply)

Joanna1971 — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 16:13:30 +0000

Hi me and a friend has been looking into comfort Hiam/Leighton I know she married Thomas Leighton 1826 in Saint Nicholas in October I also know she died 15th December 1879 as I’ve her death certificate she died of senile decay her daughter in law Harriet reported her dead comfort is my great great great nan Thomas Leighton her son married selina Burlow she’s my great great nan comforts dad was apparently Thomas Hiam and her mum was Ann but no surname as of yet hope this helps
Joanna Leighton

Thomas and Comfort SYSUM (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 10:41:35 +0000

GR has mistranscribed in 1851. Comfort’s reported age is misleading too. However, they can be found by searching for Joseph HERBERT (b. 1806 at Oxenhall), shoemaker, who was living next door in 1841. He was still living next door in 1851.

GR 1841 Census, Gorsley Common, Cugly, Parish of Newent

All born in county

Thomas SYSUM, 50, Ag. Lab.
Comfort, 40
Thomas, 20
William, 15
Anne, 14
Charles, 13
Maria, 8
Elizabeth, 5
John, 1

GR 1851 Census, Kilcott Hill, Parish of Newent

Thomas SYNAN, Head, Mar, 62, Road Lab, b. Hereford, Aston Ingham
Comfort, Wife, Mar, 60, Gloster, Newent
Maria, Daur, Un, 19, Glover, Gloster, Newent
Elizabeth, Daur, Un, 16, Glover, Gloster, Newent
John, Son, 11, Gloster, Newent

Comfort LEIGHTON nee HIAM born abt 1801, Pauntley nr Newent. (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 25 Nov 2017 02:00:46 +0000

Thanks for checking Graham.

So here's Comfort SYSUM's Burial Record;

Record_ID: 64506
Entry_Number: 820
Year: 1856
Month: Jun
Day: 22
Surname: SYSUM
Forenames: Comfort
Residence: Gorseley
Age_at_death: 59
Officiating_Minister: J. Acton Butt Assist[ant] Curate
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1 / 13
Page_No: 103
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex: S250

So born abt 1797, which perfectly fits the baptism posted earlier.

Possibly her husband Thomas ?

Record_ID: 64617
Entry_Number: 931
Year: 1858
Month: Jun
Day: 10
Surname: SYSUM
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Kilcote
Age_at_death: 72
Officiating_Minister: J. Acton Butt
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death: [not sta
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1 / 13
Page_No: 117
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex: S250

Struggling to find them both on 1851 Census.

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Not sure where now, regarding Comfort HIAM ??

Comfort LEIGHTON nee HIAM born abt 1801, Pauntley nr Newent. (reply)

grahamdavison — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 08:58:22 +0000

I checked the Surname in the 1815 marriage and it should read Sysum not Lysum.

Comfort LEIGHTON nee HIAM born abt 1801, Pauntley nr Newent. (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 00:59:36 +0000

Back to Thomas' wife Comfort, my belated !!! searching of this forum gives this helpful thread, and a suggestion from Slowhands that maybe she was actually a PHILIPS, see
http://www.forest-of-dean.net/fodmembers/index.php?mode=thread&id=5137

which quotes this marriage

Record_ID: 38215
Entry_Number: 35
Year: 1815
Month: Aug
Day: 1
Grooms_Surname: LYSUM
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newent
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: PHILIPS
Brides_Forenames: Comfort
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newent
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Samuel Tranter
Witness_2: John Bowkett
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Morse Officiating Minister
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/10
Page_Number: 12
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex_Groom: L250
Soundex_Bride: P412

I'd be interested to know what the original Parish Record looks like wrt the LYSUM surname ?

Searching both this site's PRs, and the FamilySearch website, I cannot find any later records of a Comfort LYSUM (or similar surname) ...

Searching the PRs for Comfort Hiam/Hyam etc gives no results at all.
There are just 2 Comfort PHILIPS who were born in the right area at the right time;

Record_ID 172994
Entry_Number
Year 1796
Month Sep
Day 18
Parents_Surname PHILLIPS
Child_Forenames Comfort
Fathers_Forenames Richard
Mothers_Forenames Ann
Mothers_Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating_Minister Tho[ma]s Davies Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register_Reference P241 IN 1/3
Page_Number
Parish_Chapel Oxenhall
Soundex P412

which appears to fit this marriage;

Record_ID: 22960
Entry_Number: 6
Year: 1814
Month: Nov
Day: 14
Grooms_Surname: COOPER
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Oxenhall
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: PHILLIPS
Brides_Forenames: Comfort
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Oxenhall
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Matthew Phillips
Witness_2: Sarah Taylor
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Tho[ma]s Davies Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P241 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 2
Parish_Chapel: Oxenhall
Soundex_Groom: C160
Soundex_Bride: P412

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Leaving this one to fit the marriage to Thomas LYSUM ??

Record_ID 71607
Entry_Number 586
Year 1797
Month Dec
Day 1
Parents_Surname PHILLIPS
Child_Forenames Comfort
Fathers_Forenames Thomas
Mothers_Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers_Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating_Minister J Foley Vicar
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register_Reference P225 IN1/3
Page_Number 47
Parish_Chapel Newent
Soundex P412

????

Comfort LEIGHTON nee HIAM born abt 1801, Pauntley nr Newent. (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 00:22:26 +0000

Used the 1841 Census on the Forest of Dean for the first time, as was struggling to find them on Ancestry

Listed on Ancestry as COMBERT LAYTON and living in Pauntley

LAYTON

Thomas - 35
Combert - 40
Charles - 10
Mary - 7
Thomas - 3
Smuel - 14 2 Mo

Hi M,
I don't currently subscribe to Ancestry, but even when I did, my go-to backup site was LDS aka FamilySearch. Despite sometimes having inaccurate transcriptions, and being laborious to copy-across to other documents or webpages, it's always very good at dealing with tricky spelling variations and offering possible alternatives.

In this case I entered "Tho Laiten Newent" and the search immediately gave the following Census which matches the one you found of course.

1841 Pool Hill, Pauntley, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Age Birthplace
Thomas Layton M 35-39 Gloucestershire
Comfort Layton F 40-44 Gloucestershire
Charles Layton M 10 Gloucestershire
Mary Layton F 7 Gloucestershire
Thomas Layton M 3 Gloucestershire
Samuel Layton M 1 Gloucestershire

https://www.familysearch.org

As it seems likely that Amie already has the later Census transcripts, I won't post them again here, but I will say their info shows perfect agreement with the following PRs from this site's database.
eg the 1871 Census for Thomas showed Thomas senior as a carrier. This is matched by his son Thomas Junior's Marriage Record here, to Selina as per his own 1871 Census.

Record_ID: 45347
Entry_Number: 45
Year: 1863
Month: Nov
Day: 9
Grooms_Surname: LEIGHTON
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age: 27
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Pauntley
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Leighton
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Carrier
Brides_Surname: BURLOW
Brides_Forenames: Selina
Brides_Age: 26
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newent
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Burlow
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: George
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Labourer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: George Lewis
Witness_2: Mary Ann Leighton
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: T P Little
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 23
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex_Groom: L235
Soundex_Bride: B640

The Census' also indicate the following death records are correct.

Record_ID: 131430
Entry_Number: 328
Year: 1884
Month: Mar
Day: 16
Surname: LEIGHTON
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Pauntley
Age_at_death: 8[?]4
Officiating_Minister: L. Priestley Foster Vicar
Event: [not stated]
Cause_of_death: Burial
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/7
Page_No: 41
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex: L235

Record_ID: 131415
Entry_Number: 313
Year: 1879
Month: Dec
Day: 15
Surname: LEIGHTON
Forenames: Comfort
Residence: Pauntley
Age_at_death: 84
Officiating_Minister: T. P. Little Vicar
Event: [not stated]
Cause_of_death: Burial
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/7
Page_No: 40
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex: L235

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Another of the first results from FamilySearch was this, possibly Thomas' father & maybe brother too ?

1841 Pool Hill, Pauntley, Gloucestershire, England
Household Role Age Birthplace
Birthplace
Thomas Layton M 67-71 Gloucestershire
James Layton M 30-34 Gloucestershire
Ann Layton F 25-29
Caroline Layton F 8 Gloucestershire
Francis Layton F 6 Gloucestershire
John Layton M 1 Gloucestershire

Record_ID: 131266
Entry_Number: 164
Year: 1850
Month: Apr
Day: 3
Surname: LEIGHTON
Forenames: Thomas
Residence: Pool Hill
Age_at_death: 79
Officiating_Minister: T P Little Incumbent
Event: [not stated]
Cause_of_death: Burial
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/7
Page_No: 21
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex: L235

So born abt 1771 ?.

Son James' Baptism fits the census,

Record_ID: 72374
Entry_Number: 299
Year: 1807
Month: Sep
Day: 20
Parents_Surname: LAYTON
Child_Forenames: James
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 62
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex: L350

Record_ID: 12198
Entry_Number: 693
Year: 1802
Month: Nov
Day: 7
Grooms_Surname: LAYTON
Grooms_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newent
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: STARLING
Brides_Forenames: Sarah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newent
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both mark
Witness_1: Eliz White
Witness_2: Stephen Skynner
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 80
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex_Groom: L350
Soundex_Bride: S364

Record_ID: 131194
Entry_Number: 92
Year: 1835
Month: Nov
Day: 13
Surname: LAYTON
Forenames: Sarah
Residence: Pauntley
Age_at_death: 62
Officiating_Minister: A. Sayers
Event: [not stated]
Cause_of_death: Burial
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/7
Page_No: 12
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex: L350

So born abt 1773, so fits the Census, but cannot find a baptism yet.

Record_ID: 311713
Entry_Number:
Year: 1772
Month: Mar
Day: 22
Parents_Surname: STARLING
Child_Forenames: Sarah
Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Mothers_Forenames: Mary
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: Samuel Sergeant
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P246 IN 1/1
Page_Number: 81
Parish_Chapel: Pauntley
Soundex: S364

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Comfort Hiam (reply)

MPGriffiths — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:43:53 +0000

For Background

Marriage at Gloucester St Nicholas

26 October 1823

Thomas LAITEN of this Parish
Hiam COMFORT of this Parish

by banns

witnesses:

Caroline (illegible)
Charles Wheeler

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Used the 1841 Census on the Forest of Dean for the first time, as was struggling to find them on Ancestry

Listed on Ancestry as COMBERT LAYTON and living in Pauntley

LAYTON

Thomas - 35
Combert - 40
Charles - 10
Mary - 7
Thomas - 3
Smuel - 14 2 Mo

Comfort Hiam

amie1990 — Thu, 23 Nov 2017 16:53:38 +0000

I am doing research on the Hiam (Hyam) family of Hartpury. I have become stuck on the main family member with the name Comfort Hiam born c.1800 in Hartpury, also resided in Pauntley, Newent. she was married to Thomas Leighton(Laiten,Layton). if there is any information about her that anybody knows that would be much appreciated.

Thanks Amie