Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Hannah HANCOCK nee HERBERT born Camrose PEMB abt 1786

Hannah HANCOCK nee HERBERT born Camrose PEMB abt 1786 (reply)

mrsbruso — Sat, 20 Jul 2013 02:01:25 +0000

Are you certain that Herbert was her surname at birth, and not the surname of a prior husband? I haven't researched the thread, and this may be a red herring, but it is something that occurred to me as a potential bump in the road.

Good luck and happy hunting.

Hannah HANCOCK nee HERBERT born Camrose PEMB abt 1786 (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 17:11:13 +0000

Hi

Hannah Herbert born 1784, married Phillip Hancock from Camrose Pembrokeshire on 11/08/1811 in Camrose, Pembrokeshire. She died 12/02/1874 in Sardis, Burton Parish, Pembrokeshire aged 90.

Phillip & Hannah Hancock are my 2nd Great Grandparents. They had 8 children all born and raised in Pembrokeshire. I have searched everywhere for an exact birthdate and place of birth and her parents, I think she was born in Pembrokeshire. I have searched the familysearch.org and roots web, ancestry, records offices, wills etc. and cannot find the info I am looking for, which is "who are her parents" and exact place of birth.

I have looked at the family trees on ancestry and found one which said Hannah was born in Ruardean in 1785, hence my question on this site, I thought she may have been born in Ruardean and then moved to Wales. The reply from DownUnder gave 2 possible marriages for Hannah in Gloucester and that's why I said that its a different Hannah.

Thanks for the links and to you and DownUnder for trying to help, most appreciated

Susie

1871
Hannah Hancock abt 1787 [from] Camrose, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head [living]Camrose, Pembrokeshire

1861
Hanah Hancock abt 1786 Camrose, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Camrose, Pembrokeshire

1851 ?
Hanah Hancock abt 1799 Camrose, Pembrokeshire, Wales Head Camrose, Pembrokeshire

1841 ?
Hannah Hancock abt 1791 Pembrokeshire, Wales Camrose, Pembrokeshire

Searching Hannah Herbert born "Gloster abt 1784" (reply)

susie — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 16:07:50 +0000

Hannah Herbert born 1784, married Phillip Hancock from Camrose Pembrokeshire on 11/08/1811 in Camrose, Pembrokeshire. She died 12/02/1874 in Sardis, Burton Parish, Pembrokeshire aged 90.

Phillip & Hannah Hancock are my 2nd Great Grandparents. They had 8 children all born and raised in Pembrokeshire. I have searched everywhere for an exact birthdate and place of birth and her parents, I think she was born in Pembrokeshire. I have searched the familysearch.org and roots web, ancestry, records offices, wills etc. and cannot find the info I am looking for, which is "who are her parents" and exact place of birth.

I have looked at the family trees on ancestry and found one which said Hannah was born in Ruardean in 1785, hence my question on this site, I thought she may have been born in Ruardean and then moved to Wales. The reply from DownUnder gave 2 possible marriages for Hannah in Gloucester and that's why I said that its a different Hannah.

Thanks for the links and to you and DownUnder for trying to help, most appreciated

Susie

Searching Hannah Herbert born "Gloster abt 1784" (reply)

Jefff — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 15:19:13 +0000

Hi Susie, welcome to the forum.
Please can you advise what more you know about "your" Hannah, as on the face of it DownUnder's findings wrt Baptism & parents look entirely credible to me based on your opening statement which you then seem to contradict ?. No doubt this is a misunderstanding on my part.
Regarding the Herberts of Ruardean, this forum has two longterm researchers to this family who may well be able to guide you. If they don't answer this thread you may like to consider contacting them by direct email off the forum. See this prior thread and look for usernames "Jean Herbert" and maybe "jimashton".
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=36978

Please also be reminded that Pemsbrokeshire is a long way out of this site's remit area.

Thanks in advance for helping us to help you,
atb Jeff.

PS have you tried searching the LDS aka Family Search website ?. It's free and has a huge database, a quick look gives five "possible" Hannah's born c1784 in the "Gloster" area, see the following; https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aha...

Also see our neighbouring Monmouthshire.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aha...

If I reset the filters to just show Wales results it gives some Pembrokeshire info too as well as more in Monmouthshire.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Aha...

Hannah Herbert (reply)

downunder — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:10:56 +0000

Sorry!

And good luck. Hope you find your Hannah.

Hannah Herbert (reply)

susie — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 14:01:14 +0000

Thanks for the info, this Hannah is not my ancestor, shame I will have to keep looking.

Thanks

Susie

Hannah Herbert (reply)

downunder — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 13:13:39 +0000

Hi Susie

You would probably know all this already, but from this site's parish records:

Hannah's parents marriage:

Record_ID: 15778
Entry_Number:
Year: 1782
Month: May
Day: 20
Grooms_Surname: HARBERT
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition:
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Ruardean
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: YEMM
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition:
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Ruardean
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he signed her mark
Witness_1: Richard MEEK
Witness_2: Joseph HARPER
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John BEESTON - Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes: BT shows date as 12 May. Register shows his surname as HARBETT corrected to HARBERT. BT has HERBERT and YEM.
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/4
Page_Number: 30
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex_Groom: H616
Soundex_Bride: Y500

Her baptism:

Record_ID: 55297
Entry_Number:
Year: 1785
Month: Aug
Day: 28
Parents_Surname: HERBERT
Child_Forenames: Hannah
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Hannah
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister: J H BEESTON - minister
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P275 IN 1/6
Page_Number: 1
Parish_Chapel: Ruardean
Soundex: H616

Two possible marriages:

Record_ID: 35569
Entry_Number:
Year: 1803
Month: Apr
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: MARFELL
Grooms_Forenames: Jonathan
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: of this parish
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HERBERT
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: of this parish
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Richd Marfell
Witness_2: Lydia Marfell
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: J H Beeston Rector
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: AG68/7
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Hope Mansell
Soundex_Groom: M614
Soundex_Bride: H616

Record_ID: 86165
Entry_Number: 5
Year: 1814
Month: Oct
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: TAYLOR
Grooms_Forenames: John
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: otp
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: HERBERT
Brides_Forenames: Hannah
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: otp
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both mark
Witness_1: Mark of Hester Gwinneth
Witness_2: William Butt
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: John Neale Curate
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P199 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 3
Parish_Chapel: The Leigh
Soundex_Groom: T460
Soundex_Bride: H616

regards downunder

Is Hannah HERBERT 1785 Ruardean my Hannah ?

susie — Mon, 01 Jul 2013 11:16:38 +0000

I am looking for information on Hannah Herbert born 28 Aug 1785 in Reardean, Gloucester, England. Parents William Herbert and Hannah Yemm.

I am doing my family tree and have a direct ancestor named Hannah Herbert who married, lived, and died in Pembrokeshire Wales. I have approx birth date of 1784 for her but cannot find an exact date or place of birth, I have searched through other family trees and found one which says she may have been born in Gloucester, I would be grateful for any information anyone has on Hannah.

Thanks

Susie