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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alison,<br />
thanks for adding so much detail to Percy's war service, and for confirming he was indeed in the Merchant Navy and a fellow engineer too - sounds like his lifetime was rather more &quot;interesting&quot; and indeed usefull than mine though to put it mildly !</p>
<p>I should have already tried to trace his later life, knowing he was a career sailor this looks a good fit for him from FreeBMD, Cardiff a likely home port I guess ?</p>
<p>Surname  First name(s)  Mother/Spouse/Age  District  Vol  Page  <br />
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Marriages Sep 1920   (&gt;99%)<br />
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Cotton  Frank P R  Davies  Cardiff  11a 1253    <br />
Davies  Annie R J  Cotton  Cardiff  11a 1253</p>
<p>Sadly it seems he dies quite young, the age fits our Percy's birthyear:</p>
<p>Deaths Dec 1941   (&gt;99%)<br />
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Cotton  Frank P R  49  E. Glamorgan  11a 1154 </p>
<p>I suspect he was still serving during WW2 ?.</p>
<p>So it seems the Frank Cotton I mentioned in the previous post c1962 probably wasn't &quot;Percy&quot;, but as I mentioned perhaps no surprise as Frank seems a very popular Cotton name.<br />
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<p>Regarding Percy's WW1 service within the Merchant Navy, thanks for giving his ship, Reliance. I expected such a name to belong to quite a powerfull fighting ship, but it seems not. According to this reference three RN ships bore the name, Percy's was the third<span style="color:#009;"><br />
&quot;HMS Reliance was a repair ship, previously the civilian ship Knight Companion. She was purchased in 1912 and was sold in 1919.&quot;</span><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Reliance">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Reliance</a></p>
<p>So she was bought during a major &quot;arms-race&quot; of new British &amp; German warships being launched as War seemed ever more likely, hence an increased need for support ships too. </p>
<p>Searching &quot;Knight Companion&quot; is tricky as the name was used on more than one merchant ship, but I think this may be Percy's ship from these references &amp; photos:<br />
This excellent photo shows what seems an ideal size &amp; layout for refit as a repair/workshop RN ship<br />
<a href="http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=4986">http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=4986</a><br />
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&quot;KNIGHT COMPANION was built in 1913 by Chas. Connell &amp; Co. at Greenock with a tonnage of 7241grt, a length of 470ft , a beam of 58ft and a service speed of 11 knots. Sister of the Knight Templar she was built for the Knight Steamship Co. of Liverpool. On 11th June 1917, six days before the acquisition by Holt's was concluded, she was damaged by a torpedo fired by UB-20 and towed into Falmouth for repairs. <strong>Until then she had spent the entire war in government service as an Indian Expeditionary Force Transport, Royal Navy Collier No.1389 and as Expeditionary Force Transport No. F 0186. </strong>During that period of service, on 10th January 1917, she exchanged gunfire with U-79 off Cape Finisterre. After the war she continued in service with the Ocean Steam Ship Co. until 1933 when she was broken up in Italy. Although the 'Knight' ships were acquired as replacements for war losses and in order to exploit the trading opportunities which followed the war at no time did Holt's ever consider renaming the ships with traditional Holt names. Some say that the management did not think the ships were worthy of a Blue Funnel name.&quot;</span><br />
<a href="http://www.red-duster.co.uk/BLUEFUN13.htm">http://www.red-duster.co.uk/BLUEFUN13.htm</a></p>
<p>So altho the given build dates may differ very slightly from Wiki the war history &amp; theatre seems a very plausible match to Percy's ship.</p>
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<p>Your records show that after WW1 Percy served aboard SS Willaston. Willaston is a village on the Wirrall near Liverpool, so there may well have been more than one SteamShip of this name, but this seems the most likely fit especially as it's first owners were the Wirrall Transport Company.</p>
<p>This &quot;immigration&quot; site suggests it may have been a passenger ship, serving on the London to New York route from 1914 to 1931.<br />
<a href="http://www.ellisisland.org/shipping/Formatline.asp?lineid=75">http://www.ellisisland.org/shipping/Formatline.asp?lineid=75</a></p>
<p>However this excellent photo suggests a cargo ship albeit still with some passenger space.<br />
<a href="http://www.wrecksite.eu/img/wrecks/meandros_34.jpg">http://www.wrecksite.eu/img/wrecks/meandros_34.jpg</a></p>
<p>More details about the ship is on <a href="http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?158614">http://www.wrecksite.eu/wreck.aspx?158614</a><br />
This 4000ton Tyne-built ship indeed sailed from 1914-31 out of Liverpool, and then was re-registered as the Greek &quot;Meandros&quot; but sunk after a collison in fog in 1934, presumably Percy had long-left the ship by then.</p>
<p>I wonder if Percy was a victim of WW2, dying quite young in 1942 ?  Searching the CWGC site for WW2 shows a few &quot;Frank Cotton&quot;s, some were sailors, but not our Percy judging from the dates...</p>
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Williston Arriving New Orleans 25 Nov 1918 from the Port of Gibralter<br />
Listed in the Crew<br />
Cotton Percy position in Ships Company 2nd Engineer.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have just found  F Percy Cotton born Blakeney on the Crew List Of SS Willaston date 13 Jan 1919 Last Permanent Residence 25 Lindon Road, Gloucester. Ship Arrived in New York 7th Feb 1919. </p>
<p>Incidently would anyone know if this is the same Cotton family who joined with Williams to form Williams &amp; Cotton Grocery shops, there were quite a lot of these shops in the Forest Villages in the 1950's.</p>
<p>Findmypast<br />
Royal Navy Officers Medal Roll 1914 - 1920<br />
First Name Frank P R<br />
Last Name Cotton<br />
Rank Engineer<br />
Service Mercantile Marine Reserve<br />
Name of Ship Reliance<br />
Medals &amp; Clasps Earned 1914-15   Star, Victory &amp; British War Medals</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again Dink for another interesting post. One reads or sees feature films about the terrible conditions for the landed invasion forces in the trenches and dugouts, but it was probably even worse for Percy. Already a very uncomfortable task working on board an ironclad ship in those hot climes, but the ships were moored very close to the land so themselves also under occasional fire from shore artillery. I've read about the Dardanelles campaign and the logistical problems were considerable and to some extent not really planned-for, especially when the landings became bogged-down far longer than anticipated and the invasion force couldn't live off conquered land. However it seems the supply of clean drinking water was achieved using the warships in the invasion force, altho' no doubt their men &amp; machinery worked far harder than anticipated or built-for. <br />
Page 58 of this online-book of the Campaign mentions the absolute importance &amp; methods of supplying drinking water, I hope the link works.<br />
<a href="http://archive.org/stream/dardanellescolou00wilkuoft#page/58/mode/2up/search/drinking">http://archive.org/stream/dardanellescolou00wilkuoft#page/58/mode/2up/search/drinking</a></p>
<p>Another mention of the problem can be read in this graphic diary account of the first day of the landings from a Worcestershire Regiment perspective<span style="color:#006;"><br />
&quot;Dead bodies and wounded all over the place. Oh, the poor wounded, what they suffered, the cry being, &quot;water, water,&quot; all day long, and we had none to give them. The Medical men and sailors worked hard to get us some for we were obliged to drink the sea water then and for days afterwards, it being distilled first, but we still had the nasty taste, and we knew that hundreds of poor souls were still floating about in it, but the Turks had poisoned the water in the wells.&quot;</span><br />
<a href="http://www.worcestershireregiment.com/gallipoli_Ben_Ward.php">http://www.worcestershireregiment.com/gallipoli_Ben_Ward.php</a></p>
<p>Elsewhere I've read that despite everyone's best efforts each soldier's drinking water ration was just half a pint a DAY, and in those dusty hot climes !. Apparently some soldiers would use leftover cold tea to shave in to save drinking water. Of course this general lack of water also caused hygiene issue, seawater bathing in ANZAC Cove etc was encouraged to help overcome this.<br />
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<p>It would be interesting to know, if possible, was Percy Cotton a sailor or soldier ?  Was he a specialist engineer or medic, or had he been &quot;volunteered&quot; into the role from the infantry ?.</p>
<p>Regarding engineers and Cottons of Gloucester, I wonder if Percy is a relation of the famous Frank Willoughby Cotton who founded the famous Cotton Motorcycle firm in Gloucester just before WWI ?. I know nothing of FW Cotton's family history or even if he was a Glostershire man. <br />
Then again perhaps Percy used his second name because there were already so many Franks in the Cotton lines all over the UK, not just Glostershire ?.  I don't recall meeting any Cottons but I do know of Fran Cotton the ex-England rugby player but he's from Wigan, so...<br />
<a href="http://cottonownersclub.com/page4.htm">http://cottonownersclub.com/page4.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_(motorcycle)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_(motorcycle)</a></p>
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<p>Back to &quot;Percy&quot; Cotton's family history.</p>
<p>From GlosBMD;</p>
<p>Birth Details:</p>
<p>Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
COTTON Frank Percy Richard COTTON COTTON WHITE 1892 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 63 281 </p>
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Probable parents:<br />
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Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry   <br />
COTTON Moses Francis WHITE Augusta Maria Forest of Dean Westbury-on-Severn (FoD) Register Office   1889 9 22 </p>
<p>Parents' Birth Details:<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
COTTON Moses COTTON COTTON CHARLEY 1853 Forest of Dean Chepstow, Lydney 6 478 </p>
<p>Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
WHITE Augusta Maria WHITE WHITE KNOCKER 1863 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, Newnham 23 376 </p>
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I did check FoD PRs for him &amp; his parents and found this near miss for his parents, and in the right area, relations perhaps ?</p>
<p>Record ID 32219 <br />
Entry Number  <br />
Year 1889 <br />
Month Aug <br />
Day 8 <br />
Grooms Surname COTTON <br />
Grooms Forenames Miles J <br />
Grooms Age [not stated] <br />
Groom Condition Bachelor <br />
Grooms Occupation Grocer etc <br />
Grooms Residence Blakeney <br />
Grooms Fathers Surname [not stated] <br />
Grooms Fathers Forenames [not stated] <br />
Grooms Fathers Occupation [not stated] <br />
Brides Surname WHITE <br />
Brides Forenames Augusta <br />
Brides Age [not stated] <br />
Brides Condition Spinster <br />
Brides Occupation [not stated] <br />
Brides Residence Blakeney <br />
Brides Fathers Surname White <br />
Brides Fathers Forenames Stephen A <br />
Brides Fathers Occupation [not stated] <br />
Licence or Banns [not stated] <br />
Date of Banns [not stated] <br />
Signature or Mark [not stated] <br />
Witness 1 [not stated] <br />
Witness 2 [not stated] <br />
Other Witnesses [not stated] <br />
Officiating Minister W H Allen <br />
Event Marriage <br />
Memoranda  <br />
Notes  <br />
Register Reference D5690/1 <br />
Page Number [not stated] <br />
Parish Chapel Newnham and Blakeney Tabernacle</p>
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Another possible relative/ancestor of Percy is Elizabeth Cotton, grocer of Blakeney in this 1868 Slater's Directory of Newnham &amp; Area.<br />
<a href="http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/newnham1868.htm">http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cbennett/newnham1868.htm</a><br />
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<p>A Mr Frank Cotton of the Blakeney area gets this brief mention in this prior thread, see &quot;Forest Adventures&quot;, the same man or a relation perhaps ?.</p>
<p>&quot;in Gloucester in 1962 I once spoke to a Mr Frank Cotton, a very wealthy customer who turned out to be a partner in the Williams and Cotton enterprise. A very pleasant man and we chatted about Yorkley which he knew well.&quot;<br />
<a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&amp;id=39882">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=entry&amp;id=39882</a></p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are some interesting details on what <strong>Mr &quot;Percy&quot; COTTON</strong> did during WW1</p>
<p>Gloucester Journal 13 November 1915</p>
<p><strong>Mr. Percy COTTON</strong>, of Blakeney, son of <strong>Mr. and Mrs. M.F. COTTON</strong>, now residing at Linden Road, Gloucester, in the course of a letter to a Blakeney friend, gives an interesting description of his work in the Dardanelles.</p>
<p>He is on board ship, and assists in controlling the supply of electricity which drives the power which converts the sea water , by filtration, into drinking water for the troops. </p>
<p>He makes the interesting statement that during the war they have distilled as much as 40 million gallons of water</p>
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