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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much for your swift reply.</p>
<p>Richard:)</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Richard, welcome to the forum &amp; website.<br />
As you can see this particular PR must have been a difficult one to transcribe, as the note states. <br />
To request a check of the transcription, I think it's normal/preferred to ask using the &quot;Database Correction Request Form&quot;, found below the &quot;Help - FAQ&quot; heading, or from this link.<br />
<a href="http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/help-faq/database-correction-request-form">http://www.forest-of-dean.net/index.php/help-faq/database-correction-request-form</a></p>
<p>Where and when possible/convenient one of the site's staff will check the transcription against the original PR for you.</p>
<p>PS What a coincidence you mention the Kyrle name; only yesterday I was reading a 1930s guidebook entry about John Kyrle &quot;Man of Ross&quot;, and was thinking I don't recall seeing his name mentioned on the forum in the three years I've been involved !<br />
<a href="http://www.visitforestofdean.co.uk/history_kyrle">http://www.visitforestofdean.co.uk/history_kyrle</a></p>
<p>For a great many years of driving thro the town before the bypass was built, and occasional visits, all I knew of John Kyrle was the pub in Ross:<br />
<a href="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6812867543_98e452eeb6_z.jpg">http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6812867543_98e452eeb6_z.jpg</a><br />
Clearly he was a good man for the town and it's people.</p>
<p>From this site's PRs:</p>
<p>Record_ID: 24187 <br />
Entry_Number: 390 <br />
Year: 1637 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 4 <br />
Parents_Surname: KYRLE <br />
Child_Forenames: John <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Walter <br />
Mothers_Forenames: [not stated] <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence:  <br />
Occupation:  <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Esq In the margin in much later hand note in red ink Popes Man of Ross <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P125 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Dymock <br />
Soundex: K640 </p>
<p>Record_ID: 227107 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1724 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 20 <br />
Surname: KYRLE <br />
Forenames: John <br />
Residence:  <br />
Age_at_death:  <br />
Officiating_Minister:  <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda: [1] John Kyrle Esq _ <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: AG39/2 <br />
Page_No:  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Ross on Wye <br />
Soundex: K640 </p>
<p>According to Wikipedia,<span style="color:#033;"><br />
&quot;John Kyrle was the son of Walter Kyrle, a barrister and MP. The family had lived at Ross for many generations. His grandfather, James Kyrle of Walford Court, had been high sheriff of the county and whose father, Walter, had spelled the surname CRULL which had been a common surname among the Anglo-French aristocracy that had dominated England since the time of the Norman invasion in 1066 and a name which gradually disappeared with the Anglo-French aristocracy's Angloisation. James Kyrle's wife, Ann, was the sister of Edmund Waller, the poet, and her maternal uncle was the English statesman John Hampden.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#033;">John Kyrle was educated at Balliol College, Oxford, and studied Law, but did not qualify and having succeeded to the family property looking over the market square at Ross he lived there.&quot;<br />
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<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kyrle">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kyrle</a></p>
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<pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2013 02:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Regarding the following record I wonder if anyone could verify the original entry for the surname and forename of the bride? </p>
<p>Transcript Details<br />
Record_ID: 1011091<br />
Entry_Number: <br />
Year: 1633<br />
Month: Jun<br />
Day: 29<br />
Grooms_Surname: SHEPPARD<br />
Grooms_Forenames: John<br />
Grooms_Age: <br />
Groom_Condition: <br />
Grooms_Occupation: <br />
Grooms_Residence: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Surname: ERULE<br />
Brides_Forenames: Porapes<br />
Brides_Age: <br />
Brides_Condition: <br />
Brides_Occupation: <br />
Brides_Residence: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: <br />
Licence_or_Banns: <br />
Date_of_Banns: <br />
Signature_or_Mark: <br />
Witness_1: <br />
Witness_2: <br />
Other_Witnesses: <br />
Officiating_Minister: <br />
Event: Marriage<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: Best guess at Bride`s Forename<br />
Register_Reference: P154/9 IN 1/1<br />
Page_Number: <br />
Parish_Chapel: Gloucester St John the Baptist<br />
Soundex_Groom: S163<br />
Soundex_Bride: E640</p>
<p>I am conducting a study of the ERNLE (EARNLEY, ERNLEY, ERNELEY, EARNLY, etc.) family, and ERULE is one of the standard mistranscriptions. Indeed, an example of this came up when I did a pre-first-posting search of the FOD site for ERULE, and got it as the middle name of one of the distaff descendants of the family, The Rev. Kyrle Ernle Money, vicar, listed as the officiant in a Penn/Mabe marriage in 1820. BTW, for verification of my statement, it may be useful to know that the Money family, now Money-Kyrle, of Much Marcle, Herefordshire, is listed in many editions of Burke's Landed Gentry.)</p>
<p>Thank you,</p>
<p>Richard (rhbcz)<br />
West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada</p>
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