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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks S for confirming/clarifying the most likely death record. Pleased to see you back online.</p>
<p>I agree it might seem her date of birth is most likely to be similar to husband Jack's, but hopefully you agree it's better to checkout all permutations thoroughly where possible ?.<br />
I know of couples in my family lines who have enjoyed long, happy and fruitful marriages despite 10 or even 15 year age gaps, I'm sure they're not unique.</p>
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<title>Doris May DREW nee BEDDIS 1918 - 2006 Cinderford (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thank you so much for you help. It is greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>I find two Doris May Beddis. One Baptised in 1907 and the other in 1918.</p>
<p>Would anyone know which one married Ivor Jack Drew?</p>
<p>Thank you<br />
Gwenn</p>
</blockquote><p>Given Ivor's DoB the Doris born 1918 is the most likely</p>
<p>Name:Doris M Beddis<br />
Mother's Maiden Surname:Bevan<br />
Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1918<br />
Registration District:Westbury S<br />
Inferred County:Shropshire<br />
Volume Number:6a<br />
Page Number:374</p>
<p><br />
strong match  to</p>
<p>Name:Doris May Drew<br />
Birth Date:29 Sep 1918<br />
Date of Registration:May 2006<br />
Age at Death:88<br />
Registration District:Gloucester<br />
Inferred County:Gloucestershire<br />
Volume:-1<br />
Page-1<br />
Register Number:C73<br />
District and Subdistrict:483/1C<br />
Entry number:253</p>
<p><br />
a Doris May Drew was living in GL14/Cinderford on electoral registers up to 2006 with her son ( mother surname Beddis)( who is also there on 2012, so no names please)</p>
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<title>Jack Drew married Doris May Beddis b1918 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which Doris, what an unlucky coincidence, now that's tricky !</p>
<p>To recap what you already know,</p>
<p>From GlosBMD &amp; FreeBMD; </p>
<p>Marriage Details <br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
DREW Ivor Jack BEDDIS Doris May Forest of Dean Forest of Dean Register Office   1939 4 44 (Dec qtr)</p>
<p>Registry Office so no Church PR so no mention of Bride's father/family...</p>
<p>Unfortunately the other Doris also married abt this time and in a Registry Office, so again no clues here;</p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
WHITE Sidney Eric BEDDIS Doris May Gloucester Gloucester City Register Office  1938 1 240 (Dec qtr)</p>
<p>I don't know if purchasing the Marriage Records will give more details abt the respective father's, I guess they might but don't know for sure.</p>
<p>As you'll know there are no Burial records in this site's PRs for Doris May Drew or Doris May Beddis.</p>
<p>Therefore need to search for deaths of each bride and hope the given ages correspond to the known Baptisms, altho maybe difficult to find if lived to a decent age.... altho of course they might have remarried particularly after WW2. </p>
<p><br />
&quot;Fortunately&quot;, if only for us given her too-young age, I can find this Doris May White's burial in this site's PRs, which appears a perfect fit wrt name &amp; locality;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 8968 <br />
Entry_Number: 1936 <br />
Year: 1940 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 26 <br />
Surname: WHITE <br />
Forenames: Doris May <br />
Residence: Dilke Hospital Cinderford <br />
Age_at_death: 32 <br />
Officiating_Minister: Breenes Miller <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15 <br />
Page_No: 242 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John <br />
Soundex: W300 </p>
<p>Suggests this Doris was born abt 1908.<br />
Therefore from this site's PRs this seems to match this Baptism;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 76647 <br />
Entry_Number: 2266 <br />
Year: 1907 <br />
Month: Nov <br />
Day: 24 <br />
Parents_Surname: BEDDIS <br />
Child_Forenames: Doris May <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Joseph Edward <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Maria <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Cinderford Bridge <br />
Occupation: Engine Driver <br />
Officiating_Minister: E Lewis Vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Born Sep 22 1907 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 284 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John <br />
Soundex: B320 </p>
<p>From BMD I think I find husband's Death Record,</p>
<p>Deaths Sep 1964   (&gt;99%)<br />
---------------------------------------------------------<br />
WHITE  SIDNEY E  61  F.OF DEAN  7B 3[35]8    </p>
<p>Suggesting also born abt 1903, which seems a fair match to Doris b1907.</p>
<p>=================== </p>
<p>Therefore it appears the &quot;other&quot; Doris married your Jack, namely;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 339730 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1918 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 23 <br />
Parents_Surname: BEDDIS <br />
Child_Forenames: Doris May <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Sidney Arthur <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Dorothy May <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: The Fernaces Cinderford <br />
Occupation: collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: F W Baldwin vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/3 <br />
Page_Number: 52 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John <br />
Soundex: B320</p>
<p>Which again is a good match wrt Jack's 1918 birth.</p>
<p><br />
From Ancestry's free search I can find two Death Records for &quot;Doris May Drew, Gloucestershire&quot;, one in 1990, another in 2006.<br />
<a href="http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&amp;rank=1&amp;new=1&amp;so=3&amp;MSAV=0&amp;msT=1&amp;gss=ms_r_f-34&amp;gsfn=doris+may&amp;gsln=drew&amp;msbpn__ftp=Cinderford%2C+Gloucestershire%2C+England&amp;msbpn=83792&amp;msbpn_PInfo=8-%7C0%7C0%7C3257%7C3251%7C0%7C0%7C0%7C5265%7C83792%7C0%7C&amp;sbo=0&amp;uidh=dv7">http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=34&amp;rank=1&amp;new=1&amp;so=3&amp;MS...</a></p>
<p>Hopefully someone with full Ancestry access can please advise which, if either, best matches your Doris wrt age and town. <br />
Alternatively it's worth searching the FoD Burials site when that becomes back online, usually it gives age and home address so very useful.<br />
<a href="http://www.fdean.gov.uk/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=6707&amp;tt=graphic">http://www.fdean.gov.uk/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=6707&amp;tt=graphic</a></p>
<p>atb Jeff</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for you help. It is greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>I find two Doris May Beddis. One Baptised in 1907 and the other in 1918.</p>
<p>Would anyone know which one married Ivor Jack Drew?</p>
<p>Thank you<br />
Gwenn</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was another child.  Philip Emmanuel Drew born 09.09.1908 Ruspidge and was baptized 30.09.1908 at Cinderford Methodist unfortunately he was buried 02.02.1910 at Cinderford St.John given age 18 months.</p>
<p>Best wishes<br />
Carol</p>
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<title>Elsie DREW born 1912 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwenn, <br />
from your mention of Elsie Drew I assumed she was a sister to Winifred, however now I think not, please can you clarify ?</p>
<p>A quick search gives this likely Marriage for her from the PRs, also found within GlosBMD, but I cannot find any clear record for her birth/baptism on these two sites or FreeBMD  ?? </p>
<p>I see a clear family tie with Winifred's husband but apparently the girls have different fathers ?. Unfortunately it looks like her birth c1912 just evades the 1911 Census. </p>
<p>Record_ID: 1014529 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1932 <br />
Month: Aug <br />
Day: 6 <br />
Grooms_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Grooms_Forenames: Edward <br />
Grooms_Age: 23 <br />
Groom_Condition: bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: collier <br />
Grooms_Residence: Dockham Rd <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: [decd] <br />
Brides_Surname: DREW <br />
Brides_Forenames: Elsie <br />
Brides_Age: 20 <br />
Brides_Condition: spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Ruspidge Rd <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: DREW <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Robert James <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: collier <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: H J White <br />
Witness_2: P J Rogers <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: A J Kelland off min <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 47 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John <br />
Soundex_Groom: R262 <br />
Soundex_Bride: D600</p>
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<p>LATER CORRECTION !</p>
<p>Apologies for probably confusing you, clearly Elsie is Winifred's younger sister.</p>
<p>I now think the above Marriage Record transcript is in error, I suggest you request a check wrt Elsie's fathers' name, I think it should read Albert James not <em>Robert</em> James ?<br />
It's a little odd her full name(Irene) is omitted from the Marriage Record but I do think this is her correct PRs.</p>
<p>Here is her Baptism Record from this site's PRs;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 164506 <br />
Entry_Number: 749 <br />
Year: 1912 <br />
Month: Apr <br />
Day: 11 <br />
Parents_Surname: DREW <br />
Child_Forenames: Irene Elsie <br />
Fathers_Forenames: Albert james <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Jane <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: E. Dean Gloucester <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: Francis J. May <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Ruspidge Chapel <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: D2598 5/6 <br />
Page_Number: 126 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Forest of Dean Bible Christian <br />
Soundex: D600</p>
<p>Backedup by GlosBMD wrt her mother's maiden name;</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
DREW Irene Elsie DREW DREW CARPENTER 1912 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 19 463 </p>
<p>--------------</p>
<p>Here is husband Edwards baptism;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 332944 <br />
Entry_Number: 504 <br />
Year: 1909 <br />
Month: Aug <br />
Day: 19 <br />
Parents_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Child_Forenames: Edward Emmnanuel <br />
Fathers_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Florrie <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Littledean Hill <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: J Martin Vicar <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/2 IN 1/2 <br />
Page_Number: 63 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St Stephen <br />
Soundex: R262 </p>
<p>Another &quot;lost&quot; name come his wedding day...<br />
So it does look like the sisters have indeed married brothers.</p>
<p>I cannot find either burials locally, did they move away, perhaps ??</p>
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<title>Winifred Iris DREW 1906-1986 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gwenn,</p>
<p>GlosBMD has Winifred's birth and marriage records as;</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
DREW Winifred Iris DREW DREW CARPENTER 1906 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 14 432<br />
(FreeBMD further claries this as during the last Oct/Nov/Dec quarter) </p>
<p>Marriage Details<br />
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building   Year Register Entry <br />
ROGERS George Henry DREW Winifred Iris Forest of Dean Cinderford St John the Evangelist  1930 4 64<br />
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<a href="http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx">http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx</a></p>
<p>From this FoD site's PRs we find Winidred's full marriage record;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 1014499 <br />
Entry_Number:  <br />
Year: 1930 <br />
Month: Jun <br />
Day: 28 <br />
Grooms_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Grooms_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Grooms_Age: 23 <br />
Groom_Condition: bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: miner <br />
Grooms_Residence: Cinderford <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: army <br />
Brides_Surname: DREW <br />
Brides_Forenames: Winifred Iris <br />
Brides_Age: 23 <br />
Brides_Condition: spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation:  <br />
Brides_Residence: Cinderford <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: DREW <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Albert James <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: miner <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: G P Woodman <br />
Witness_2: E E Rogers <br />
Other_Witnesses:  <br />
Officiating_Minister: C Paul Glidden <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 32 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John <br />
Soundex_Groom: R262 <br />
Soundex_Bride: D600</p>
<p>Using Ancestry's free search Winifred Iris Rogers died in &quot;Gloucestershire in 1986&quot;. Unfortunately the FoD Burial Enquiries website is currently offline, it may well be worth your revisiting later in case Winifred is resting at Yew Tree Brake Cemetary at Cinderford.<br />
<a href="http://www.fdean.gov.uk/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=6707&amp;tt=graphic">http://www.fdean.gov.uk/nqcontent.cfm?a_id=6707&amp;tt=graphic</a></p>
<p>-------</p>
<p>I cannot find husband George Rogers' baptism PR on this site, but his Birth Record from GlosBMD is;</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
ROGERS George Henry ROGERS ROGERS ROBERTS 1906 Forest of Dean Westbury on Severn, East Dean 14 484</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>Also his father, George Henry &quot;senior&quot;</p>
<p>Birth Details<br />
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry <br />
ROGERS George Henry ROGERS ROGERS CLARKE 1872 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 29 247 </p>
<p>From this FoD PRs site; his full BMD PRs;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 33517 <br />
Entry_Number: 289 <br />
Year: 1873 <br />
Month: Mar <br />
Day: 2 <br />
Parents_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Child_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Fathers_Forenames: WIlliam <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Jane <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Littledean <br />
Occupation: Collier <br />
Officiating_Minister: William Lockitt <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/7 <br />
Page_Number: 37 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Littledean <br />
Soundex: R262 </p>
<p>Record_ID: 26166 <br />
Entry_Number: 397 <br />
Year: 1904 <br />
Month: Jan <br />
Day: 2 <br />
Grooms_Surname: ROGERS <br />
Grooms_Forenames: George Henry <br />
Grooms_Age: 30 <br />
Groom_Condition: Bachelor <br />
Grooms_Occupation: Collier <br />
Grooms_Residence: Broadwell Lane End Coleford <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Rogers <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William Henry Francis <br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Ironworker <br />
Brides_Surname: ROBERTS <br />
Brides_Forenames: Florrie <br />
Brides_Age: 20 <br />
Brides_Condition: Spinster <br />
Brides_Occupation: Domestic Servant <br />
Brides_Residence: Broadwell Lane End Coleford <br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Roberts <br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: James <br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier <br />
Licence_or_Banns: Banns <br />
Date_of_Banns:  <br />
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign <br />
Witness_1: Albert Rogers <br />
Witness_2: Mary Roberts <br />
Other_Witnesses: B. Witts <br />
Officiating_Minister: Edward H. Brice <br />
Event: Marriage <br />
Memoranda:  <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P 93 IN 1/11 <br />
Page_Number: 199 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Coleford <br />
Soundex_Groom: R262 <br />
Soundex_Bride: R163 </p>
<p>Record_ID: 8251 <br />
Entry_Number: 1218 <br />
Year: 1931 <br />
Month: Oct <br />
Day: 14 <br />
Surname: ROGERS <br />
Forenames: George Henry <br />
Residence: 78 Dockham R[oa]d <br />
Age_at_death: 59 <br />
Officiating_Minister: C Paul Gliddon <br />
Event: Burial <br />
Cause_of_death:  <br />
Memoranda: C/6/3 <br />
Notes:  <br />
Register_Reference: P85/1 IN 1/15 <br />
Page_No: 153 <br />
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John <br />
Soundex: R262</p>
<p>More family may be found in this site's PRs.</p>
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<title>Ivor Jack DREW 1918 - 1976 (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am trying to find some information on the son of Albert James and Mary Jane (Carpenter) Drew. <br />
They had 6 children: Stanley Albert (1897), Hilda Jane (1899), Ashley Edward (1903), Jack, Win (Winifred Iris) and Elsie.</p>
<p>I was recently sent a photo of Jack and on the back was written &quot;Ivor Jack&quot; Brother of A. E. Drew. I haven't been able to find any information on Jack or Win and Elsie.</p>
<p>I am hoping someone could help me with this.<br />
Thank you<br />
Gwenn.</p>
</blockquote><p>Name:Iver J Drew<br />
Mother's Maiden Surname:Carpenter<br />
Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1918<br />
Registration District:Westbury S<br />
Inferred County:Shropshire<br />
Volume Number:6a<br />
Page Number:401</p>
<p><br />
Name:Ivor Jack Drew<br />
Birth Date:12 May 1918<br />
Date of Registration:Jun 1976<br />
Age at Death:58<br />
Registration District:Forest of Dean<br />
Inferred CountyGloucestershire<br />
Volume:22<br />
Page:1687</p>
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<title>Albert and Jane DREW Ruspidge (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am trying to find some information on the son of Albert James and Mary Jane (Carpenter) Drew. <br />
They had 6 children: Stanley Albert (1897), Hilda Jane (1899), Ashley Edward (1903), Jack, Win (Winifred Iris) and Elsie.</p>
<p>I was recently sent a photo of Jack and on the back was written &quot;Ivor Jack&quot; Brother of A. E. Drew. I haven't been able to find any information on Jack or Win and Elsie.</p>
<p>I am hoping someone could help me with this.<br />
Thank you<br />
Gwenn.</p>
</blockquote><p><br />
1911 Ruspidge</p>
<p>Albert Drew 34<br />
 Jane Drew 34<br />
 Stanley Drew 14<br />
 Hilda Drew 12<br />
 Cyril Drew 9<br />
 Ashley Drew 7<br />
 Winnie Drew 5<br />
 Alice Drew 28<br />
 Fred Drew 4/12<br />
 Sidney Drew 22</p>
<p><br />
DREW Ivor Jack <br />
BEDDIS Doris May <br />
Forest of Dean Forest of Dean Register Office   <br />
1939 4 44</p>
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<title>Jack Drew</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>I am trying to find some information on the son of Albert James and Mary Jane (Carpenter) Drew. <br />
They had 6 children: Stanley Albert (1897), Hilda Jane (1899), Ashley Edward (1903), Jack, Win (Winifred Iris) and Elsie.</p>
<p>I was recently sent a photo of Jack and on the back was written &quot;Ivor Jack&quot; Brother of A. E. Drew. I haven't been able to find any information on Jack or Win and Elsie.</p>
<p>I am hoping someone could help me with this.<br />
Thank you<br />
Gwenn.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 11:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
<category>General</category><dc:creator>Gwenn</dc:creator>
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