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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're very welcome, we are all always pleased to help-out on this friendly forum.</p>
<p>Re the Advanced search feature, this is a really helpful feature and very flexible, I do recommend any newer users &quot;play around&quot; with it and find just how useful it can be, especially when researching commonly-occurring names. <br />
For example, as your family appear to be local to the Homend part of Ledbury, I've re-searched the Burial PRs using Advanced search, and only inputting the words &quot;Morgan&quot; and &quot;Homend&quot; into the Surname and Residence search boxes. This gave a table of just 12 Burial records. The headings of each column in the table are Blue hyperlinks, so clicking any heading will change the way the table is displayed/ordered.  Clicking &quot;Year&quot; will make it display in chronological order, thus making it easier to interprete, as below.</p>
<p>The following are the Burial PRs which I suggest are PROBABLY related to your family, so need further research (marriages?, Census' etc); I'm sure some of them will relate to the earlier Baptisms I listed, or give clues as to earlier generations of the family.</p>
<p>Record ID Year Month Day Surname Forenames Residence Age at death Parish Chapel <br />
195835 1826 Mar 27 MORGAN illegible David   Homend 12 Ledbury <br />
195888 1826 Sep 5 MORGAN David   Homend 34 Ledbury <br />
195931 1827 Apr 13 MORGAN Thomas   Homend 48 Ledbury <br />
196433 1834 Jan 19 MORGAN Edward   Homend 41 Ledbury <br />
196495 1834 Sep 8 MORGAN Esther   Homend 66 Ledbury <br />
207301 1837 Apr 2 MORGAN Phebe   Homend 34 Ledbury <br />
207748 1841 Nov 21 MORGAN James   Homend 9 Ledbury <br />
208642 1852 Sep 8 MORGAN John Sampson   Homend 1 Ledbury <br />
184232 1871 Jan 6 MORGAN Sarah   Homend Ledbury 97 Ledbury <br />
220389 1886 Jun 7 MORGAN Ernest Edward   Homend infant Ledbury</p>
<p>The same approach can be sued to search this site's Marriage PRs, again using surname &quot;Morgan&quot; and residence &quot;Homend&quot; gives these PRs.  </p>
<p>Year Grooms_Surname Grooms_Forenames Grooms_Residence Brides_Surname Brides_Forenames Brides_Residence Parish_Chapel<br />
1842 MORGAN Thomas Homend TAYLOR Sarah Homend Ledbury</p>
<p>and,</p>
<p>Year Grooms_Surname Grooms_Forenames Grooms_Residence Brides_Surname Brides_Forenames Brides_Residence Parish_Chapel<br />
1841 BROOKES George Fleetwood Homend MORGAN Ann Homend Ledbury</p>
<p>The full PRs gives far more detail, and suggests the two maybe father and daughter;</p>
<p>Record_ID 58524<br />
Entry_Number 117<br />
Year 1842<br />
Month Mar<br />
Day 30<br />
Grooms_Surname MORGAN<br />
Grooms_Forenames Thomas<br />
Grooms_Age Of full age<br />
Groom_Condition Widower<br />
Grooms_Occupation Basket maker<br />
Grooms_Residence Homend<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname [not stated]<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames [not stated]<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation [not stated]<br />
Brides_Surname TAYLOR<br />
Brides_Forenames Sarah<br />
Brides_Age Of full age<br />
Brides_Condition Widow<br />
Brides_Occupation <br />
Brides_Residence Homend<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname [not stated]<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames [not stated]<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation [not stated]<br />
Licence_or_Banns Banns<br />
Date_of_Banns <br />
Signature_or_Mark He signs she marks<br />
Witness_1 Thomas Bowkett<br />
Witness_2 Mary Williams<br />
Other_Witnesses <br />
Officiating_Minister W Servante Off[iciatin] Minister<br />
Event Marriage<br />
Memoranda <br />
Notes <br />
Register_Reference BO92/19<br />
Page_Number 59<br />
Parish_Chapel Ledbury<br />
Soundex_Groom M625<br />
Soundex_Bride T460</p>
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or in full;</p>
<p>Record_ID 58507<br />
Entry_Number 100<br />
Year 1841<br />
Month Aug<br />
Day 15<br />
Grooms_Surname BROOKES<br />
Grooms_Forenames George Fleetwood<br />
Grooms_Age Of full age<br />
Groom_Condition Widower<br />
Grooms_Occupation Carpenter<br />
Grooms_Residence Homend<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Surname Brookes<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames Joseph<br />
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation Ostler<br />
Brides_Surname MORGAN<br />
Brides_Forenames Ann<br />
Brides_Age Of full age<br />
Brides_Condition Spinster<br />
Brides_Occupation <br />
Brides_Residence Homend<br />
Brides_Fathers_Surname Morgan<br />
Brides_Fathers_Forenames Thomas<br />
Brides_Fathers_Occupation Basket Maker<br />
Licence_or_Banns Licence<br />
Date_of_Banns <br />
Signature_or_Mark Both sign<br />
Witness_1 Thomas Morgan<br />
Witness_2 Elizabeth Hill<br />
Other_Witnesses <br />
Officiating_Minister James Watts Vicar<br />
Event Marriage<br />
Memoranda <br />
Notes <br />
Register_Reference BO92/19<br />
Page_Number 50<br />
Parish_Chapel Ledbury<br />
Soundex_Groom B622<br />
Soundex_Bride M625</p>
<p>Luckily the two occurred just before the 1841 Census was taken, this may give other members of the family.</p>
<p>Eg, could this be our Thomas, and there's a Harriet too... ???</p>
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1841 Homend Street, Ledbury, Herefordshire.</p>
<p>Given Name  Surname  Age  Estimated Birth Year  Gender  Birth City  Birth County  Birth Country<br />
Thomas  Morgan  50  1791  Male   Labourer Herefordshire  England<br />
Harriett  Morgan  11  1830  Female   Herefordshire  England<br />
James  Morgan  8  1833  Male   Herefordshire  England<br />
Mary  Morgan  6  1835  Female   Herefordshire  England</p>
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Hoping this helps a little more, good luck !</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou - this is all very helpful.  I will continue to check PR as Id missed many of these sibings when trying to research.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I have traced a George Morgan, born Ledbury 1821 to David and Sarah Morgan.<br />
However I have no record of where David was born and Sarah's Maiden name etc.  Any chance of a lookup please? Or some knowledge of Morgans in Ledbury? Im presuming as they arent far from the Welsh border that they may have originated from over there with a name like Morgan.<br />
Thanks</p>
</blockquote><p>Hi and welcome to the forum. Have you searched this site's PRs ?. </p>
<p>Here's George's baptism PR in full;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 293616<br />
Entry_Number: 943<br />
Year: 1822<br />
Month: Jan<br />
Day: 27<br />
Parents_Surname: MORGAN<br />
Child_Forenames: George<br />
Fathers_Forenames: David<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Sarah<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Wellington Division<br />
Occupation: Labourer<br />
Officiating_Minister: James Watts Vicar<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: Son of<br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/8<br />
Page_Number: 118<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p>Using Advanced Search can find all Baptisms to &quot;David&quot; and &quot;Sarah Morgan&quot;, these all look to be good fits for one (our) family;</p>
<p>Year Surname Child Forenames Parents Forenames Mothers Surname Residence Occupation Parish Chapel<br />
1811 MORGAN James, David Sarah       Dymock<br />
1812 MORGAN Rosanna, David Sarah       Dymock<br />
1816 MORGAN David, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1817 MORGAN David, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1819 MORGAN Thomas, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1820 MORGAN Matthew, David Sarah   Dymock Labourer Dymock<br />
1822 MORGAN George, David Sarah   Wellington Division Labourer Ledbury<br />
1823 MORGAN Harriet, David Sarah   Homend Labourer Ledbury<br />
1825 MORGAN Sarah, David Sarah   Homend Labourer Ledbury</p>
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I've also used the Advanced search looking for any marriages of a Morgan with father David, there are only five in the whole PR database, none in the Ledbury/Dymock area and none are our family.  Seems odd !...<br />
Similarly I don't think there are any Morgan marriages with mother Sarah as a witness, but needs rechecking to be sure.<br />
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<p>This may be George's brother's burial, right age and address.  I found this PR by accident while searching his father, I recommend you search the PRs for the other siblings, burials and marriages, may find clues as to parents David &amp; Sarah's background eg their own siblings may have been witnesses, etc.</p>
<p>Record_ID: 195835<br />
Entry_Number: 937<br />
Year: 1826<br />
Month: Mar<br />
Day: 27<br />
Surname: MORGAN<br />
Forenames: illegible David<br />
Residence: Homend<br />
Age_at_death: 12<br />
Officiating_Minister: J. A. Montgomery Clerk<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/35<br />
Page_No: 118<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p>Looks like George's father died young, perhaps explaining my inability to find him on the 1841 Census;</p>
<p>Record_ID: 195888<br />
Entry_Number: 990<br />
Year: 1826<br />
Month: Sep<br />
Day: 5<br />
Surname: MORGAN<br />
Forenames: David<br />
Residence: Homend<br />
Age_at_death: 34<br />
Officiating_Minister: J. A. Montgomery Clerk<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/35<br />
Page_No: 124<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p><br />
In fact I've struggling to find any of the family in the 1841 Census !...</p>
<p><br />
Cannot be certain as we're dealing with common names, but I think this may well be mother Sarah's Burial, or possibly her mother ?, still in Homend Ledbury. </p>
<p>Record_ID: 184232<br />
Entry_Number: 453<br />
Year: 1871<br />
Month: Jan<br />
Day: 6<br />
Surname: MORGAN<br />
Forenames: Sarah<br />
Residence: Homend Ledbury<br />
Age_at_death: 97<br />
Officiating_Minister: F. Salter Stooke<br />
Event: Burial<br />
Cause_of_death: <br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: <br />
Register_Reference: B092/37<br />
Page_No: 57<br />
Parish_Chapel: Ledbury<br />
Soundex: M625</p>
<p>CONCLUSION:  <br />
Not sure where to go from here, given my sadly limited available time. I've tried searching the Census's for parent's David and Sarah without any real luck at all, except to prove that there are an awful lot of Morgans of this name and approx age in the Glos/Herefordshire area, but which are ours ?. If indeed they lived until 1841 ?.  Similarly no definite luck searching for daughter Harriet (I thought this might be a rarer name, wrong !).</p>
<p>???</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a marriage between David Morgan and Sarah Morgan at Hereford St. NIcholas on 9 April 1811.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have traced a George Morgan, born Ledbury 1821 to David and Sarah Morgan.<br />
However I have no record of where David was born and Sarah's Maiden name etc.  Any chance of a lookup please? Or some knowledge of Morgans in Ledbury? Im presuming as they arent far from the Welsh border that they may have originated from over there with a name like Morgan.<br />
Thanks</p>
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