Forest of Dean FHT Forum - IRELAND family

IRELAND family (reply)

shepway — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:47:57 +0000

The IRELAND family is listerd in the 1881 Census as follows:
Dwelling: Winalls Hill Lane End
Census Place: West Dean, Gloucester, England
Source: FHL Film 1342259 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 5225 Folio 20 Page 6
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Benjamin IRELAND M 65 M Stroud, Gloucester, England
Rel: Head
Occ: (Raily) Labourer On The Line
Hannah IRELAND M 59 F King Stanley, Gloucester, England
Rel: Wife
Joseph IRELAND U 29 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Coal Miner
Thomas IRELAND U 27 M West Dean, Gloucester, England
Rel: Son
Occ: Stoker At Coal Pit

Searching the database on the Castle Garden web site http://castlegarden.org/ produced the following:
THOMAS IRELAND Occupation Laborer
Age 28
Sex M
Literacy U
Arrived 1882-04-10
Origin England
Port Liverpool
Last Residence
Destination UNITED STATES
Plan Unknown
Ship Germanic
Passage Unknown

Hopefully a check of the 1890 US Census and 1891 UK Census will establish if this is your Thomas or not.

Cheers
Mike

IRELAND family (reply)

willow — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:33:36 +0000

From slowhands

1871 Bream /Parkend
Anna Ireland 48 Stansly, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Benjamin Ireland 50 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Emily Ireland 10 Cannoss West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
John Ireland 14 Cannoss West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Joseph Ireland 20 Cannoss West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Ireland 17 Cannoss West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

I have now sourced these as my gt grandfather John and gt gt Grandparents Hannah and Benjamin

I had an hour in the Record Office whilst on holiday last week and found a will made by Hannah
leaving just over £100

Bequests of
Thomas £36
Emily Jane £10 and her clothes box
John £10
Joseph £10 and he clothing apparel
and a grandson Thomas £5 (I think)

However next to Thomas seniors's name it says (in America)

I've looked on the Ellis Island website and it has given me 4 Thomas's as possibilities, does anyone know how I determine which if any would be my Thomas??

Name Residence Arrived Age
1. Thomas H. Ireland Brooklyn, N.Y. 1908 53
2. Thomas A. Ireland 1894 41
3. Thomas Ireland Carnayre, PA USA 1910 57
4. Thomas Ireland 1910 56

IRELAND family 1861 (reply)

slowhands — Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:32:15 +0000

1861 Chemical Works , Christchurch West Dean

Benjamin Ireland abt 1821 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Hannah Ireland abt 1824 Rodborough, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Benjamin Ireland abt 1847 Pitchcombe Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Emily J Ireland abt 1860 Cannop Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
John Ireland abt 1857 Cannop, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Joseph Ireland abt 1852 Cannop Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Ireland abt 1853 Cannop Son West Dean Gloucestershire

IRELAND family (reply)

willow — Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:15:00 +0000

THANK YOU !!

From the details you have provided me i have tried to see if i can link any
to my tree

CENSUS 1871
IRELAND ANNA 48 WIFE STANSLY-WEST DEAN >>>GREAT-GREAT GRANDMOTHER-1?
IRELAND BENJAMIN 50 HEAD STROUD-WEST DEAN >>>>GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER
IRELAND EMILY 10 DAUGH CANNOSS-WEST DEAN
IRELAND JOHN 14 SON CANNOSS-WEST DEAN .>>>GREAT GRANDFATHER
IRELAND JOSEPH 20 SON CANNOSS-WEST DEAN 1
IRELAND THOMAS 17 SON CANNOSS-WEST DEAN 2

CENSUS 1881
IRELAND BENJAMIN abt 1816 HEAD WEST DEAN >>POSS GREAT-GREAT GRANDFATHER
IRELAND HANNAH abt 1822 WIFE WEST DEAN >>POSSGREAT GREAT GRANDMOTHER-2?
IRELAND JOSEPH abt 1852 SON WEST DEAN 1
IRELAND THOMAS abt 1854 SON WEST DEAN 2

CENSUS 1891
IRELAND JOHN 35 HEAD WEST DEAN >>>GREAT GRANDFATHER
IRELAND ELIZABETH 33 WIFE WEST DEAN >>>GREAT GRANDMOTHER
IRELAND EMILY 11 DAUGH WEST DEAN
IRELAND JOHN 9 SON WEST DEAN
IRELAND HANNAH 6 DAUGH WEST DEAN
IRELAND BENJAMIN 4 SON WEST DEAN >>>>GRANDFATHER
IRELAND THOMAS 10MTHS SON WEST DEAN

CENSUS 1901 IRELAND BENJAMIN 13 SON WEST DEAN GRANDFATHER
IRELAND ELIZABETH 42 WIFE WEST DEAN >>>>GREAT GRANDMOTHER
IRELAND ELIZABETH 7 DAUGH WEST DEAN
IRELAND FLORRIE 7 DAUGH WEST DEAN
IRELAND JOHN 44 HEAD WEST DEAN >>>>GREAT GRANDFATHER
IRELAND JOHN 19 SON WEST DEAN
IRELAND THOMAS 11 SON WEST DEAN

1891 and 1901 are spot on
the ages on 1871 are about correct for them all
in 1881 the boys ages are correct but the fathers age is out by a few years and his wife has changed Anna and Hannah ...perhaps they are the same person? mispelt?

this is my first attempt at trying to tie everyone to one place and link them together,

IRELAND family (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:11:40 +0000

1851 West Dean
IRELAND Benjamin 29 Labourer Chemical Works driver
Hannah 27 Stanley
Benjamin 4 Stanley

1871 Lane End
Anna Ireland 48 Stanley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Benjamin Ireland 50 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Emily Ireland 10 Cannop West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
John Ireland 14 Cannop West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Joseph Ireland 20 Cannop West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Ireland 17 Cannop West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1881 Lane End
Annie Hireland abt 1877 Little Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean
Elizabeth Hireland abt 1858 Monmouth, Wales Wife West Dean
Emaly Hireland abt 1880 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean
John Hireland abt 1857 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean

1891 Broadwell, Lane End
Ireland, John 35 West Dean, Gloucestershire Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Ireland, Elizabeth 33 Chepstow, Mon Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Ireland, Emily 11 West Dean, Gloucestershire Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Ireland, John 9 West Dean, Gloucestershire Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Ireland, Hannah 6 West Dean, Gloucestershire Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Ireland, Benjamin 4 West Dean, Gloucestershire Son West Dean Gloucestershire
Ireland, Thomas 10/12 West Dean, Gloucestershire Son West Dean Gloucestershire

1901 Broadwell, Lane End
Benjamin Ireland 13 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Ireland 42 Chepstow, Monmouth, Wales Wife West Dean Monmouthshire
Elizabeth Ireland 7 Mo West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire
Florrie Ireland 7 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Monmouthshire
John Ireland 44 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Monmouthshire
John Ireland 19 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire
Thomas Ireland 11 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Monmouthshire

IRELAND family (reply)

willow — Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:48:57 +0000

Thank you will reference these against names I have in my list,

I did check back to the site and found I couldnt access anything

The Ireland's above look very promising as relatives in one way or another due to locations

From the birth dates below I have in my tree the following ancesters

IRELAND

???? Thomas - Ross - Shoemaker - My Great Great Grandfather
married Lucy Ellison

1857 John - Ross - Collier - My Great Grandfather
married Elizabeth Metcalf

1887 Benjamin -Lane End West Dean- Collier - My grandfather
married Florence Willstead

His Siblings
John(Jack)
Thomas
Elizabeth
Florence
other names mentioned were annie and Hannah but unsure of these

His children

1910 Florence Gertrude
1911 Thomas John
1915 Hilda May
1921 Kathleen Emily
1923 Dorothy Phyllis
1925 Harold Sydney - my father

There is a birth of a child Fred but it is unknown when other than they had a baby called Fred that died,

IRELAND family

slowhands — Wed, 30 Mar 2005 03:26:38 +0000

1851 West Dean
IRELAND Margaret Niece 10 Scholar Newland

IRELAND ?????? James 30 Coal Miner West Dean
Ellen 35 School Mistress West Dean
Eliza 11 Cheltenham
Caroline 6 Bourton/Water

IRELAND Ann Widow/er 39 Tidington

IRELAND Benjamin 29 Labourer Chemical Works dtr
Hannah 27 Stanley
Benjamin 4 Stanley

Benjamin Ireland 24 Hevied, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire
Emma Ireland 4 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean Gloucestershire
Harriet Ireland 25 Five Acres, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Ireland 3 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean Gloucestershire

Ann Ireland 24 Coalway Lane, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean Gloucestershire
Charles Ireland 24 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean Gloucestershire

1881
Benjamin Ireland abt 1816 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean
Hannah Ireland abt 1822 King Stanley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean
Joseph Ireland abt 1852 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean
Thomas Ireland abt 1854 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean

Benjamin Ireland abt 1847 Lane End, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean
Emma Ireland abt 1867 Gloucestershire, England Daughter West Dean
Harriet Ireland abt 1845 Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean
Thomas Ireland abt 1868 Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean