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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the 1894 marriage of a John LEWIS to an Esther Ann DAVIES which I posted earlier is a complete red herring. This looks a better scenario. All from GR.</p>
<p>GR 1871 Census, Monmouth, Buckholt Rd,</p>
<p>William LEWIS, Head, Mar, 37, Haulier, b. Linton, Gloucestershire<br />
Louisa, Wife, Mar, 31, Dixton, Monmouth<br />
Edwin, Son, 5, Whitchurch, Herefordshire<br />
Anne, Daur, 3, Dixton, Monmouthshire<br />
Matilda, Daur, 8m, Monmouth</p>
<p>GR 1881 Census, Dixton, Monmouth, Buckholt Mill,</p>
<p>Thomas WAITE, Head, Mar, 32, Miller, b. Northamptonshire, Bugbrook<br />
Angelina, Wife, Mar, 29, Herefordshire, Orcop<br />
Gertrude, Daur, 4, Monmouth, Dixton<br />
Richard, Son, 2, Monmouth, Dixton<br />
Edwin LEWIS, Serv, 14, Hereford, Whitchurch<br />
Henry GOUGH, Serv, 14, Hereford, Orcop</p>
<p>GR 1891 Census, 3, Weymouth Place, Sebastopol, Mon (close to Pontrhydyrun)</p>
<p>John LEWIS, Head, Mar, 24, Platelayer, b. Hereford, Whitchurch<br />
Jane, Wife, Mar, 26, Monmouth, Llanllowell<br />
Ernest, Son, 1, Monmouth, ?????<br />
Luke Waters, Father-in-law, Wid, 58, Farm Labourer,  Monmouth, Llanishen<br />
Laura LEWIS, Sister, 18, General Servant Domestic, Hereford, Buckholt.</p>
<p>Their marriage?</p>
<p>First Name  Jane<br />
Last Name  Waters<br />
Gender  Female<br />
Year  1885<br />
Spouse  <br />
Image Quarter  3<br />
Country  Wales<br />
County  Monmouthshire<br />
District  Pontypool<br />
District Number  <br />
Registry Number  <br />
Volume  11A<br />
Page  172<br />
Line Number  313<br />
Entry Number<br />
Jane Waters married one of the people below:<br />
John Edwin LEWIS<br />
Eli ROWLAND</p>
<p>Jane’s death?</p>
<p>First Name  Jane<br />
Last Name  Lewis<br />
Gender  Female<br />
Year  1897<br />
Birth Year  1865<br />
Birth Month  <br />
Birth Day  <br />
District  Pontypool<br />
County  Monmouthshire<br />
Country  Wales<br />
Volume  11A<br />
Event Quarter  3<br />
District Number  <br />
Page  85<br />
Line Number  211<br />
Entry Number</p>
<p>GR 1901 Census, Pontnewynydd, Mon</p>
<p>John LEWIS, Head, Mar, 34, Railway Platelayer, b Hereford, Whitchurch<br />
Adeline Ada, Wife, 28, Mon, Llan??????<br />
Ernest John, Son 11, Mon, Llan??????<br />
Catherine Maud, Daur, 7m, Mon, Llan??????<br />
David Clarence, Son, 1, Mon, Llan?????<br />
Annie KIDNER, Niece, 7, Mon, Llan?????<br />
Arthur KIDNER, Brother-in-law, 44, Roller man in tinplate works, Mon, Abertillery</p>
<p>Their marriage?</p>
<p>Adeline Ada<br />
Last Name  Kidner<br />
Gender  Female<br />
Year  1898<br />
Spouse  <br />
Image Quarter  2<br />
Country  Wales<br />
County  Monmouthshire<br />
District  Newport (Monmouthshire)<br />
District Number  <br />
Registry Number  <br />
Volume  11A<br />
Page  340<br />
Line Number  93<br />
Entry Number<br />
Adeline Ada Kidner married one of the people below:<br />
John Edwin LEWIS<br />
Charles ATHAY</p>
<p>Adeline’s death?</p>
<p>First Name  Adeline Ada<br />
Last Name  Lewis<br />
Gender  Female<br />
Year  1906<br />
Birth Year  1871<br />
Birth Month  <br />
Birth Day  <br />
District  Bedwellty<br />
County  Monmouthshire<br />
Country  Wales<br />
Volume  11A<br />
Event Quarter  2<br />
District Number  <br />
Page  38<br />
Line Number  138<br />
Entry Number</p>
<p>GR 1911 Census, 11, Glynmawr St, Abertillery, Monmouth,</p>
<p>John Edwin LEWIS, Head, 44, Mar, Miner, b. Whitchurch, Herefordshire<br />
Esther, Wife, 45, Mar, Bredwardine, Herefordshire<br />
David C.H, Son, 11, ????, Monmouthshire<br />
Catherine M, Daur, 10, ???? Monmouthshire<br />
Reginald J, Son, 9, ???? Monmouthshire<br />
William HYDE, Nephew, 20, Single, Miner, Bredwardine, Herefordshire</p>
<p>12(?) years the marriage, 11 children, 5 alive, 6 died.<br />
5 rooms in the house.</p>
<p>Therefore what we are missing is a marriage of John Edwin LEWIS to an Esther sometime between 1906 and 1911. This is the only one I can see which fits,</p>
<p>First Name  John Edwin<br />
Last Name  Lewis<br />
Gender  Male<br />
Year  1907<br />
Spouse  <br />
Image Quarter  2<br />
Country  Wales<br />
County  Glamorganshire<br />
District  Cardiff<br />
District Number  <br />
Registry Number  <br />
Volume  11A<br />
Page  767<br />
Line Number  144<br />
Entry Number<br />
John Edwin Lewis married one of the people below:<br />
Louise STAVROW<br />
Esther HYDE</p>
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<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mike, makes sense with the Marriage date !  Wonder if there were more children then ?</p>
<p>Also for the placename, which fits my Pontypool records perfectly. </p>
<p>&quot;PONTRHYDYRUN, in the parish of Llanfrechfa, it is a station on the Eastern Valleys branch of the Monmouthshire railway, 2 miles from Pontypool.&quot; <br />
<a href="http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llanfrechfa/Gaz1868">http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llanfrechfa/Gaz1868</a></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 23:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the number of years of the marriage in 1911 could be read as 17 instead of 12 (possible and rather more reasonable) that would place it c1894. This is, at least, a possibility,</p>
<p>GR Marriages,</p>
<p>First Name  John<br />
Last Name  Lewis<br />
Gender  Male<br />
Year  1894<br />
Spouse  <br />
Image Quarter  1<br />
Country  Wales<br />
County  Glamorganshire<br />
District  Pontardawe<br />
District Number  <br />
Registry Number  <br />
Volume  11A<br />
Page  1071<br />
Line Number  287<br />
Entry Number </p>
<p>John Lewis married one of the people below:</p>
<p>Esther Ann DAVIES<br />
Elizabeth Ann JOSHUA</p>
<p>A candidate for Esther’s death from GR?<br />
First Name  Esther<br />
Last Name  Lewis<br />
Gender  Female<br />
Year  1917<br />
Birth Year  1867<br />
Birth Month  <br />
Birth Day  <br />
District  Bedwellty<br />
County  Monmouthshire<br />
Country  Wales<br />
Volume  11A<br />
Event Quarter  1<br />
District Number  <br />
Page  107<br />
Line Number  38<br />
Entry Number</p>
<p>Incidentally, I now think the childrens’ birthplace in 1911 reads <strong>Pontrhydyrun.</strong></p>
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<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Jeff also</p>
<p>Phil</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thanks to Geoff also</p>
<p>Regards Phil</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information Mike</p>
<p>Yes Edwin born at whitchurch 1865 the only child baptised there</p>
<p>John edwin married 3 times due to the wives popping of in fact he outlived all 3 and died 1931 63 years of age</p>
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Regards phil</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Not sure about 1891 and 1901 but this for 1911?</p>
<p>GR 1911 Census, 11, Glynmawr St, Abertillery, Monmouth,</p>
<p>John Edwin LEWIS, Head, 44, Mar, Miner, b. Whitchurch, Herefordshire<br />
Esther, Wife, 45, Mar, Bredwardine, Herefordshire<br />
David C.H, Son, 11, ????, Monmouthshire<br />
Catherine M, Daur, 10, ???? Monmouthshire<br />
Reginald J, Son, 9, ???? Monmouthshire<br />
William HYDE, Nephew, 20, Single, Miner, Bredwardine, Herefordshire</p>
<p>12(?) years the marriage, 11 children, 5 alive, 6 died.<br />
5 rooms in the house.</p>
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The most likely Baptism for this Edwin that I can see in this site's PRs is;</p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Record_ID: 387727<br />
Entry_Number: 484<br />
Year: 1865<br />
Month: Oct<br />
Day: 23<br />
Parents_Surname: LEWIS<br />
Child_Forenames: John Edwin<br />
Fathers_Forenames: William George<br />
Mothers_Forenames: Louisa<br />
Mothers_Surname: <br />
Residence: Whitchurch<br />
Occupation: Butcher<br />
Officiating_Minister: W Day MA Rector<br />
Event: Baptism<br />
Memoranda: <br />
Notes: There is written in the margin PB<br />
Register_Reference: AC76/2<br />
Page_Number: 61<br />
Parish_Chapel: Whitchurch<br />
Soundex: L200</span></p>
<p>This looks like the same family you found in the 1871 Census ?.</p>
<p>FreeBMD births for Monmouth are as follows, the name isn't as common as I'd first suspected with only one born c1865, which rather confirms the above baptism is indeed our Edwin.</p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Surname   First name(s)      District   Vol   Page </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#006;">Births Mar 1856   (&gt;99%)<br />
LEWIS  Edwin Thomas     Monmouth  11a 35 <br />
Births Jun 1862   (&gt;99%)<br />
<strong>LEWIS  Edwin     Monmouth  11a 45 <br />
Births Dec 1865</strong><br />
Lewis  John Edwin    Monmouth  11a 34<br />
Births Dec 1874   (&gt;99%)<br />
Lewis  Edwin     Monmouth  11a 46<br />
</span><br />
<a href="http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl">http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl</a></p>
<p>Searched FreeBMD using various spellings names I cannot see Edwin &amp; Esther's marriage,  odd !!??</p>
<p>Ditto the 1901 Census using FamilySearch ??  </p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>Pretty sure this is son David's birth.<br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
Surname   First name(s)   Age   District   Vol   Page <br />
Births Sep 1899   (&gt;99%)<br />
Lewis  David Clarence H     Pontypool  11a 155</span></p>
<p>Cannot find any mnore records for him, which is odd, given that Clarence is a rare name compared to, say, the numerous David Charles Lewis' etc.<br />
??</p>
<p>There are several &quot;Catherine M&quot; born in the South Wales area at this time, vast majority are May and Mary. <br />
However this matches Phil's name, and the most likely if still in Pontypool;<br />
<span style="color:#006;"><br />
Surname   First name(s)   Age   District   Vol   Page <br />
Births Sep 1900   (&gt;99%)<br />
LEWIS  Catherine <strong>Maud</strong>     Pontypool  11a 175</span></p>
<p>Due to FreeBMD only quoting &quot;Catherine M&quot; after 1911, cannot find her marriage etc with any certainty.<br />
<a href="http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl">http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl</a></p>
<p><br />
Oddly, cannot find any records at all for son Reginald ??</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this him in 1871?</p>
<p>GR 1871 Census, Monmouth, Buckholt Rd,</p>
<p>William LEWIS, Head, Mar, 37, Haulier, b. Linton, Gloucestershire<br />
Louisa, Wife, Mar, 31, Dixton, Monmouth<br />
Edwin, Son, 5, Whitchurch, Herefordshire<br />
Anne, Daur, 3, Dixton, Monmouthshire<br />
Matilda, Daur, 8m, Monmouth</p>
<p>If so this could well be him in 1881,</p>
<p>GR 1881 Census, Dixton, Monmouth, Buckholt Mill,</p>
<p>Thomas WAITE, Head, Mar, 32, Miller, b. Northamptonshire, Bugbrook<br />
Angelina, Wife, Mar, 29, Herefordshire, Orcop<br />
Gertrude, Daur, 4, Monmouth, Dixton<br />
Richard, Son, 2, Monmouth, Dixton<br />
Edwin LEWIS, Serv, 14, Hereford, Whitchurch<br />
Henry GOUGH, Serv, 14, Hereford, Orcop</p>
<p>Not sure about 1891 and 1901 but this for 1911?</p>
<p>GR 1911 Census, 11, Glynmawr St, Abertillery, Monmouth,</p>
<p>John Edwin LEWIS, Head, 44, Mar, Miner, b. Whitchurch, Herefordshire<br />
Esther, Wife, 45, Mar, Bredwardine, Herefordshire<br />
David C.H, Son, 11, ????, Monmouthshire<br />
Catherine M, Daur, 10, ???? Monmouthshire<br />
Reginald J, Son, 9, ???? Monmouthshire<br />
William HYDE, Nephew, 20, Single, Miner, Bredwardine, Herefordshire</p>
<p>12(?) years the marriage, 11 children, 5 alive, 6 died.<br />
5 rooms in the house.</p>
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<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi can anyone help please,</p>
<p>William Lewis and Louisa Morris married in Monmouth and had a son Edwin<br />
Trying to trace Edwin born 1866 who he married and his whereabouts after 1871 and the names of any children <br />
I believe there was a maud, David and Reginald but not definitely sure,</p>
<p>Regards Phil</p>
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