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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for your reply but unfortunately I don't think the Thomas linked to the Anne Ricketts you suggested is my Thomas.  He is more likely to have been the Thomas son of Richard Worgan of Clowerwall/Newland (WILL dated 14 Dec 1652 &amp; proved 20 Jan 1653/4) who married a Jane Unknown.  Children: Thomas b circa 1637 (to be 25 in 1661/2), Anne b circa 1638, Blanche b 1641, Jane &amp; Richard (of unknown birth dates).</p>
<p>Whereas my Thomas was born probably circa 1625 with siblings: Dorothy (unknown birth date), Richard (unknown birth date) &amp; Anthony Worgan d 1694.  Their parents: Richard of English Bicknor who married Sibell Whitson (1594-1677/8)</p>
<p>The Litigation Bill also mentions that Thomas had 3 sons, Richard the eldest who died without issue, John d 1691 (my ancestor) who then became the eldest son &amp; another younger son.  The fourth unnamed child of the 1668 WILL was probably a daughter Sibell. </p>
<p>The Thomas linked to Anne Ricketts appears not to have had any children.  However, I always keep an open mind because of the condition of the parish registers of Newland/Staunton/English Bicknor - there are many missing names &amp; dates so nothing is certain!</p>
<p>Many years ago I spent one lovely day at the Society of Genealogists in London &amp; photo-copied all of the Forest of Dean people mentioned in the Men &amp; Armour for Gloucestershire 1608.  A wonderful resource which has helped me a lot over the years.</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>'Without the benefit of surviving baptism/marriage/burial records for Thomas and his family'</p>
<p>Assume you have from the records</p>
<p>Marriage by licence: 24 January 1662</p>
<p>Thomas WORGAN, aged 25, batchelor : Gentleman: residence: Clowerwall parish of Newland</p>
<p>Anne RICKETTS, aged 30 - Spinster, residence: Clowerwall</p>
<p>by licence</p>
<p>Event type: Marriage Allegation</p>
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<p>Men in Amour for Gloucestershire 1608</p>
<p><a href="http://www.coaley.net">http://www.coaley.net</a></p>
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CLEARWELL (Forest of Dean)</p>
<p>Robert WORGAN unable in body findeth half a corslet</p>
<p>Richard WORGAN has one corslet furnished  **</p>
<p>John WORGAN <strong>Senior</strong> and Christopher WORGAN unable in bodies have between them one corslet furnished</p>
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** Ancestry:  England &amp; Wales Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills : Richard WORGAN of Clowerwall, 20 January 1653 (wishes to be buried in Newland, and mentions various children etc)</p>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For many years I have believed that my direct ancestor Anthony Worgan d 1746 was the grandson of Thomas Worgan, who was named as a son with 4 unnamed children in the 1668 WILL of his father Richard Worgan of English Bicknor.</p>
<p>Recently I was browsing on the National Archives website and came across a reference to a Litigation Bill 'Worgan v Wyndham 1714' on their online catalogue.  The actual documents have not been digitised and cannot be downloaded, so I ordered the 3 quoted.  They were expensive but saved me the equally expensive train fare to Kew.  After transcribing the Bill document (very large - 3ft x 3ft and difficult to work on) it confirmed my theory.</p>
<p>Plaintiffs: Anthony Worgan (great grandson and heir of Richard Worgan and Sybil Worgan his wife;  i.e. son and heir of John Worgan, who was son and heir of Thomas Worgan, the eldest son and heir of said Richard Worgan and Sybil Worgan his wife.<br />
Defendants: Francis Wyndham, esq and William Symons alias William Holder</p>
<p>Apart from the genealogical details, the documents revealed that there was conflict within the family which was caused by Anthony Worgan d 1694 (a younger brother of Thomas) disputing a claim over inheritance rights of an enfeoffment (land held in trust) at Clowerwall - old name for Clearwell.</p>
<p>Without the benefit of surviving baptism/marriage/burial records for Thomas and his family, I can now positively link up 5 generations of my Worgan ancestors from these documents.<br />
As a footnote: it seems that Thomas, 'went overseas and continued there to his death' so no wonder there was no WILL or trace of a burial for him in the Forest of Dean parish registers!</p>
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