The witnesses at your ancestor's wedding were my ancestors!

Witness_1: Mark of Silas Edwin Williams
Witness_2: Sarah Williams

Silas and Sarah Williams were from the Newent/Dymock area, they emigrated in 1868 to Minnesota. Silas could not sign his name (hence the mark), but Sarah had beautiful handwriting.

Emma - 1840 - all Redmarley
Sarah - 1844
Mary Ann - 1848

1851 Census, Dymock
Village

Tomas SIMMONS - 43 -born Eastoner ? Hereford (as transcribed) Eastnor?
Eliza - 40 - born Hereford, Ledbury
Sarah - 7 - born Dymock
Mary Ann - 3 - ditto

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1861 Census,
Brooms Green

Elizabeth PARSONS -Head - unmarried - 75 - born Hereford
Mary TYLER - Head - Widow 70 - born Hereford, Ledbury
Sarah TYLER - daughter - unmarried - 34 - Nurse, born Hereford, Donnington
Ann KING - daughter - W - 25, Governess, born Gloucester, Dymock
Mary A SYMONDS - Gd. Daughter - 14 - Scholar, born Gloucester, Dymock
Frederick W MARTIN - Visitor 5 - born Cheltenham

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With her Son William TYLER age 41, born Hereford, Donnington (1871 census)

Cob Hill,

Civil Parish: Redmarly, DAbitot, Worcester

SYMONDS

Charles - 25 - Labourer Carter - all born Dymock
Ann - 24
William - 3
Frederick - 1
Susan BARNES, 12 - Nurse

Ann and Charles are down as being born in Dymock.
and a Son William born Dymock 1858.

Then there are more sons , George born Redmarley 1863,Fredrick born Redmarley 1860 then there is another Charles born Redmarley 1863, followed by Sarah Ann born Bedwardine 1868 and Emiley
born Bedwardine 1871. No telly or internet in them days!
Thanks.

Also see http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/newent.html

Please note I've updated the above Baptisms to show the mothers were all BEARD.

Birth Details

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
SYMONDS William Charles SYMONDS SYMONDS BEARD 1858 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 7 352

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/SimpleSearch.aspx

Similarly,

Birth Details

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
SYMONDS George SYMONDS SYMONDS BEARD 1862 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 9 161

Although they seem to stay in Dymock, while the family moves on working as farm labourers and servants.
Thank you.

Charles, son of Thomas & Eliza SYMONDS, residence: Brooms Green

1841 Census, Dymock

Bromberrow Heath

SYMOND

Thomas - 30 - Lab - not born in County
Eliza - 25 - ditto
John - 8 - ditto
Mary - 6 - ditto
Charles - 4 - born in County
Emma - 1 - born in County ***

On the 1851 census for Newent,

Ann BEARD age 14 and Emma SYMONDS - age 10 are working for Samuel ROMNEY and his family as House Servants.

Emma - 1840 - Redmarley, mother's maiden name TYLER
Sarah - 1844 - ditto

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FoD records

Marriage at Dymock - 13 June 1835

Thomas SYMONDS - Bachelor, residence, Dymock

married

Eliza TYLER, Spinster, residence, Dymock

by banns

witnesses: William LEWIS and mark of Elizabeth SYMMONDS

I am not sure that matches.

I have a Ann Beard who has a father named William born about 1801 and Mother Lidia born about 1811 on her baptism record from Bottloe Green Newent?

There cant be that many Lidias about, its the first one I have come across.

Married to Charles Symonds 1856 Newent, hmm.

Record_ID: 338186
Entry_Number:
Year: 1859
Month: Dec
Day: 25
Parents_Surname: SYMONDS
Child_Forenames: Frederick James
Fathers_Forenames: Charles
Mothers_Forenames: Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Redmarley
Occupation: labourer
Officiating_Minister: E H Niblett rector
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P265 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 64
Parish_Chapel: Redmarley
Soundex: S553

GlosBMD confirms mother was a BEARD:

Birth Details

Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
SYMONDS Frederick James SYMONDS SYMONDS BEARD 1859 Gloucester Gloucester, Redmarley 8 159

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Is this an older sibling ??

Record ID 19991
Entry Number 684
Year 1857
Month Nov
Day 18
Parents Surname SYMONDS
Child Forenames William Charles
Fathers Forenames Charles
Mothers Forenames Ann
Mothers Surname
Residence Hillend Green
Occupation Labourer
Officiating Minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P125 IN 1/24
Page Number 86
Parish Chapel Dymock

Record ID 338304
Entry Number
Year 1862
Month Oct
Day 19
Parents Surname SYMONDS
Child Forenames George
Fathers Forenames Charles
Mothers Forenames Anne
Mothers Surname
Residence Redmarley
Occupation labourer
Officiating Minister E H Love curate
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes
Register Reference P265 IN 1/5
Page Number 79
Parish Chapel Redmarley

Unlike the Marriages we looked at last night this one has parents AND probable family within the witnesses, much more helpfull !
HOWEVER the groom's father is given as Samuel, not your Thomas, does this make sense ?. How about the date ? There were a few other possible marriages but this seemed most likely at first look.
??

In case you were wondering last night, given the lateness of your posts I'd wondered if you were from abroad. Normally at late night the posters are from t'other side of the world particularly Oz these last few days, hence my attempting to help wrt the local geography. In fact you're nearer the Forest than I am, I live in West London. Of course ALL posters are welcome to the forum !

J

PS About the same time & area was also this Marriage, this Charles is a son of a Thomas Symonds. Is this relevant I wonder, hopefully you have the Census etc info so have a better view of the family setup than I have, perhaps including this possible branch.
??
May be one for your "shoebox" as some say:

Record_ID: 30230
Entry_Number: 376
Year: 1860
Month: Sep
Day: 16
Grooms_Surname: SYMONDS
Grooms_Forenames: Charles
Grooms_Age: Of f
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Labourer
Grooms_Residence: Newent
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: SYMONDS
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: Thomas
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Shoemaker
Brides_Surname: WEAVER
Brides_Forenames: Catherine
Brides_Age: Of f
Brides_Condition: Widow
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Newent
Brides_Fathers_Surname: COBB
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Whitesmith
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: Both sign
Witness_1: Mark of Silas Edwin Williams
Witness_2: Sarah Williams
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: F. Harrison
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P225 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 188
Parish_Chapel: Newent
Soundex_Groom: S553
Soundex_Bride: W160

I am looking for a marriage record or any information on Charles Symonds son of Thomas and Eliza Symonds(born 1835/36 Bromsberrow Heath Dymock) married to Ann
(Beard?
On the 1851 census he is listed as 15/16 years old born Dymock working as a farm boy for Richard Brook a farmer(age 35) in Dymock, Charles and Ann eventually moved to Hay on Wye.

on the census for 1871 Charles and Ann have a son Fredrick age 11 who eventually married my Great Grandmother in 1884.
Thanks in anticipation.....