Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Broadwell Memorial Hall

Broadwell Memorial Hall (reply)

StA — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 14:12:01 +0000

Hi David, I have photos of my Grandfather Benjamin Martin Brown & Great Uncle Amos William Brown.
Amos donated the ground the hall was built on and both were Trustees.
I have legal documents (copies not very clear) of the transfer deeds.
I realise this thread goes back some years, but I have only started my research within the last couple.
Not sure how I can upload the photos on this forum ?
My Father Gilbert Benjamin Brown was youngest sibling of Benjamin and was a Free Miner (I have his actual certificate) as all the male members of the family.
Are you still in the Coleford area?
Hope this will be of some help,
Yours Roger

Broadwell Memorial Hall (reply)

StA — Mon, 24 Sep 2018 21:05:17 +0000

Hello, my Grandfather Benjamin Martin Brown and his brother Amos Martin who donated the ground for the memorial hall and became trustees.
I am researching my family ancestry and have some information / photographs of both.
Are you still seeking any information now?
My Father Gilbert Benjamin Brown was a registered free miner of St B 100 I have his registration document.
Roger Brown

Broadwell Memorial Hall (reply)

Colefordarea — Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:26:35 +0000

To anyone interested the SunGreen link on my previous post has been update and now shows the list of soldiers and trustees. If anyone has any photos or stories about any of these people we would love to know. If not we still hope you'll be interested in seeing what we have so far.

David

Broadwell Memorial Hall (reply)

Colefordarea — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 18:01:27 +0000

Hey Jeff,

Yeah we have a letter in the Review asking for information and plan on having a request in the other local papers.
Haven't considered contacting groups like school to generate interest though its a great idea.
Only really now trying to spread the word now we've reached a certain point in our research and so not much advertising has been done so far.

David

Broadwell Memorial Hall (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 15:21:58 +0000

Hi David,
will you be advertising this event, and requesting material, in the local papers etc ?. I ask as my sister and family live in Coalway and would probably like to attend if they know about it.
Also, she works at Coalway School so is possibly in a good position to try and help gain interest via the pupils - have you considered approaching such groups, I'm sure the schools will be talking about WW1 in lessons, they certainly are in this area(West London) ??

Good luck, Jeff.

Broadwell Memorial Hall (reply)

Colefordarea — Fri, 28 Feb 2014 09:53:09 +0000

Hello again,
Just thought I'd let anyone know who's interested that we're having a World War 1 centenary event for Broadwell Memorial Hall, in which we hope to get more information on the soldiers and trustees as well to display what we have so far. We plan to have an event on the May Day Bank Holiday, more information can be found on the SunGreen website:
http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Broadwell/broadwell_memorial_hall_gsv.html

If anyone is unsure if they had a relative involved with the Memorial Hall I'll add a list of names on my next post. We're looking more for photos and stories if possible rather than census or parish information. If anyone has anything they want to share before the date we be more than happy to include it on our display.

If your unclear on anything just ask.

Thanks,
David

BROWN/ELLIS/LEWIS/IRELAND (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 10:22:27 +0000

I think the burial of Thomas LEWIS in 1938 is the correct one - as his Widow's burial appears to have the same reference as Thomas.

Burial at Coleford Cemetary - 16 December 1941

Emily Jane LEWIS, Widow - age 81

Memoranda:

(1 )Broadwell Lane End near Coleford (2) Section B Adult (Grave) (3) W1 (4) Consecrated (5) West Dean

and Thomas LEWIS - age 80 - 29 November 1938

(1) Broadwell Lane End (2) Section B Adult Grave (3) x 1 (4) Consecrated (5) West Dean

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Ancestry Death Index

Name: Thomas LEWIS

Birth Date: abt 1858

Date of Registration: Dec 1938

Age at Death: 80

Registration District: Forest of Dean

Inferred County: Gloucestershire

Volume: 6a

Page: 352

BROWN/ELLIS/LEWIS/IRELAND (reply)

Colefordarea — Fri, 08 Nov 2013 09:35:11 +0000

Thanks again MPGriffiths.
Everything seems like it's correct about Thomas Lewis except his date of death which we have listed as 1928 not 1938, however this could just be an error on the document we have.

BROWN/ELLIS/LEWIS/IRELAND (reply)

MPGriffiths — Tue, 05 Nov 2013 22:22:18 +0000

?? (think this is correct - as a Charles and Sarah LEWIS were witnesses at Florence wedding…..

1911 Census, Broadwell, Barnhill, Coleford, Glos

LEWIS

Thomas - 55 - married 29 years - Collier, Hewer, born Newland Glos (married c1882)
Emily Jane - 50 (12 children born alive, 12 living) - born West Dean (all 12 children listed on Glosbdm : LEWIS/IRELAND
Florie - 22 - single
Fred - 20 - Collier, Trammer
Arthur - 17 - Collier
Charlie - 15 - Errand boy Grocer Shop
Mary - 13
William -11 School
Sarah - 9
Frank - 6

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1891 Census, Broadwell, West Dean, Lane End,

LEWIS

Thomas - 33 - Coalminer, born Newland
Emily J - 30 born West Dean
Tom - 7
Emily J? - 6
Florrie - 2
Frederic - 11 months

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Marriage at Parkend - 18 March 1882

Tom LEWIS - 24, Batchelor, Collier, residence: Lane End

father: Thomas LEWIS (labourer)

married

Emily Jane IRELAND - age 21, Spinster, residence: lane End

father: Benjamin IRELAND, labourer

witnesses: Thomas & Harriet IRELAND

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? Burial at Coleford Cemetery

29 November 1938

Thomas LEWIS, Collier, age 80

Memoranda: Broadwell Lane End, Section B Adult Grave (3) x 1 (4) Consecrated (5) West Dean

BROWN/ELLIS (reply)

Colefordarea — Tue, 05 Nov 2013 19:34:25 +0000

This is very interesting, thanks MPGriffiths. There was a bit of confusion if there was a second Emma Brown as Amos also named a daughter Emma but this has cleared that up. What's also interesting is that Thomas Lewis, the father-in-law of Benjamin Ellis is also a name of another 'original trustee'.

BROWN/ELLIS (reply)

MPGriffiths — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 20:33:32 +0000

Benjamin ELLIS would appear to be William BROWN's grandson……

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on Curiousfox - May 2008, Coleford, Gloucestershire - the following message

'My great great grandfather was William BROWN, colliery proprietor; born around 1824 and married Arabella (or Allabella?) Census info says they were both born locally, but no record of their birth of marriage so far, still searching. Irish connection?

Son AMOS lived in WYNOLS HILL MASON in Broadwell, other children ARABELLA, FANNY, BENJAMIN, JANE and EMMA my great grandmother (died 1940) who married SAMUEL ELLIS, their son BENJAMIN my grandfather was a colliery owner in business with Benjamin BROWN.

Emma and Samuel ELLIS also had Amos, Enoch, Alice, Ruth William and Samuel.

I am trying to trace any descendants of William BROWN (all his great great grandchildren) and also find out about his ancestry'

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This is for starters…..

Fod Records

Marriage at Coleford Congregational - 3 October 1869

Samuel ELLIS/Emma BROWN

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Fod Records

Baptism at Christchurch - 23 January 1883

Benjamin ELLIS

parents: Samuel (Collier) & Emma

residence: Lane End,

and burial of Benjamin ELLIS - 1 February 1883 - residence: Lane End, age 3 weeks

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Christchurch - 27 July 1884

William ELLIS

parents: Samuel (Collier) & Emma

residence: Lane End

born July 4th 1884

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1891 Census, Civil Parish: English Bicknor - Monmouth

Joyford

ELLIS

Samuel - 44 - Collier, born English Bicknor
Emma - 42 - born Lane End
Enoch - 20 - Collier, Lane End Glos
Alice - 10
Amos - 14
William - 6
Samuel - 4
Benjamin - 2

1901 Census, Broadwell Lane End

ELLIS

Samuel - 54 Collier below driving heading? born English Bicknor
Emma - 51 - born Lane End
Ruth - 26
Amos - 24
William - 16
Benjamin - 12
Alice WEAGLE - daughter Widow - 28 - born West Dean
Herbert E WEAGLE - grandson - 4 months, born Lechlade

1911 Census (Wales, Monmouth)

Wynols Hill, Lane End, Nr Coleford (Living in 5 rooms)

ELLIS

Emma - 61 - married 41 years - 11 children born alive, 7 living 4 dead - born Lane End, Nr Coleford
Samuel - 64 - unemployed Collier, born Coldwell
William - 26 - General labourer, born lane End
Samuel - 24 - Coal miner hewer, born Bicknor
Benjamin - 23 - Coal miner hewer, born Bicknor
Nellie ELLIS - grand-daughter - 5 - born Broadwell Nr Coleford, Glos

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FoD records

Marriage at Coleford - 10 December 1917

Benjamin ELLIS, age 29, Bachelor, Collier
residence: Broadwell Lane End Coleford

father: Samuel ELLIS, Collier

married

Florence LEWIS - age 29, Spinster
residence: Broadwell Lane End

father: Thomas LEWIS, Collier

by banns:

witnesses: Sarah LEWIS, Martin H BROWN, Charles LEWIS

Minister: Edward H BRICE

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Ancestry: Death Index

Name: Benjamin ELLIS

Birth Date: 13 September 1888

Date of Registration: Sept 1982

Age at death: 94

Registration District: Gloucester

Inferred County: Gloucestershire

Volume: 22

Page: 1651

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Fod Records

Baptism at Coleford: 28 July 1918

Violet Eveline ELLIS

parents: Benjamin (Colliery Proprietor) & Florence

residence: Howard Road
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Glosbdm have a marriage at Coleford Baptist Chapel - 1941

Violet Evelyn ELLIS/Horace Timothy William SMITH

This could be the parents of the subscriber to Curiousfox

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Baptism at Coleford: 20 November 1921

Eileen Florence ELLIS

parents: Benjamin (Collier) & Florence

residence: Howards Rd. Broadwell Lane End

Memoranda: Oct 21/21 is recorded under the name of the child

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Ancestry: Death, Eileen Florence ELLIS born 21 October 1921, died Sept 1994 - age 72, Forest of Dean

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not sure what happened to Florence? -

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By Searching LLoyd George Land Survey 1909 for Gloucestershire

www.glos1909survey.org.uk

The properties owned/lived in by BROWN & ELLIS Coleford : give more information

e.g.

GA/D2428/1/23/1 - Hereditament Number 568

Detailed info inc.

Occupied by ELLIS, Amos

Owned by:

Thomas decd, SJ c o Taylor, G.B.

Property:

Description: Buildings

Address: Wynols Hill

etc etc

and

GA/D2428/1/23/1 - Hereditament Number 527

Coleford

Occupied by Brown Wm Mrs

Address: Howard Road

Size: 19 perches

etc etc

Amos William BROWN, Colliery Owner (reply)

Colefordarea — Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:59:24 +0000

Thanks for getting back so quickly.

I apologise as I forgot to mention what information on Amos we found, which includes what the two of you did, sorry.

Is it possible however for you to look at a trustees we have trouble finding information on called Benjamin Ellis? He was the longest surviving of the 'original trustees' and was also a colliery owner.

Thanks again.

Amos William BROWN, Colliery Owner (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:35:13 +0000

British Newspapers on line

http://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk

By searching: Amos William BROWN - a number of 'hits' including summons re: driving his car!!! (Saturday 1917 P.C. Stevens - and again Saturday 1923 P.C etc etc).

His Obituary is also there: (search: AMOS BROWN - other articles also, but by searching AMOS BROWN)

Amos William BROWN, Colliery Owner (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:28:28 +0000

Mary Ann aka "Polly" !!! wellwell, perhaps this equates to the Pollyanna name ?.

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Re Amos Brown's colliery ownership, the ever-excellent Lightmmor site gives a few hits with perhaps more to come, which I guess reflect those you've seen on Ancestry ?

"Church Hill Colliery (2)
1745 Church Hill in Parkend.

17 December 1844 Granted to Henry Beach of Moseley Green and Charles Thomas of Whitecroft for a pit situate at Parkend on the south-east side of the brook which crosses the Furnace Ditch near Brookall Ditches to command any unallotted pillars of the Rockey vein left between the north boundary of Standfast and Royal Engine and the south boundary of Oaken Level Collieries.

Surrendered by 1869.

F3 984
11 June 1906 Granted to George Albert Morgan.

13 May 1929 Oaken and Churchway Syndicate Ltd., High St., Newnham conveyed to Amos Brown.
Conveyance of Oaken & Churchway No.2 and Church Hill No.2 for £150.

28 May 1929 Conveyance Amos Brown to John Henry Elsmore, Wm. Rueben John Nash, and James Oliver Elsmore to purchase as joint tenants for £237.

January 1945 Registered joint owners John Henry and James Oliver Elsmore."

http://www.lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/CoalChurchHill2.html

AND

"Fox's Trenchard
F3 1175
31 January 1910 Application for grant to Henry Fox

23 May 1910 Granted, intended to work by means of a pit

3 June 1910 Henry Fox to Amos Wm. Brown

March 1919 Not worked
Fox’s Trenchard, New Stoney Stile & Smith’s Trenchard to be opened by means of cross measures from Valletts Deep

January 1925 Not worked

October 1929 Not worked

29 October 1929 Amos Brown working Mansfield Trenchard on the lower side of Fox’s Trenchard, also agreed to purchase Slopes Gale
Intended to be worked from Mansfield’s:- Potlid, Valletts Level, Smith’s Trenchard, Mansfield Trenchard, Stoney Stile, The Slopes Trenchard, Fox’s Trenchard & Trenchard No. 2.

R.W. Brown and J.J. Joynes Trustees under the will of A.W. Brown deceased. Net income bequethed to Mrs. Brown and on her decease gale devised to R.W. Brown.

F3 309
Amos Brown deceased by 31 December 1932, had Fox’s Trenchard, New Potlid, Valletts Level No.2, Trenchard No.2, Smith’s Trenchard, New Stoney Stile, Mansfields Trenchard, New Hawkins No.2 and Slopes Trenchard.

28 July 1933 Auction at Angel Hotel, Coleford.
Fox’s Trenchard not sold.
Fox’s Trenchard, Berry Hill, 112 acres.

31 May 1934 To be surrendered."

http://www.lightmoor.co.uk/forestcoal/CoalFoxsTrenchard.html

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This detailed list of Coal Mines in 1896 has several references to Browns in general and AW Brown in particular within his local Broadwell/Coleford area.
http://www.pdmhs.com/1896%20Lists/1896-66.htm

Amos William BROWN b 20th October 1858 (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:05:21 +0000

By searching the forum: William Amos BROWN - a couple of previous threads re: the mines William was involved with.

A number of Public Members trees confirm Amos' wife as Mary Ann EBBORN (aka 'Polly')

1881 Census

Shortstanding

EBBORN

William - 67 - Small Farmer, born WoS
Jane - 50 - born West Dean
Thos - son -23 Coal Miner, born Newland
William - 19 - Coal Miner & R Volunteer?
Mary Ann - 16 - Milliner & Dressmaker
Jane - 14
Eleanor - 10

Amos William BROWN b 20th October 1858 (reply)

Jefff — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 13:31:45 +0000

From this site's PRs;

Record_ID: 103236
Entry_Number:
Year: 1858
Month: Nov
Day: 21
Parents_Surname: BROWN
Child_Forenames: Amos William
Fathers_Forenames: William
Mothers_Forenames: Arabella
Mothers_Surname:
Residence:
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: Born Oct 20 [1858]
Notes: Any abbreviated forenames have been expanded to the full name
Register_Reference: D5533 1/1
Page_Number: 76
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Congregational
Soundex: B650

GlosBMD confirms this PR and gives mother's maiden name, Martin:

Birth Details
Child Surname Child Forename Father Surname Mother Surname Mother's Former Name Year District Office Register Entry
BROWN Amos William BROWN BROWN MARTIN 1858 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 14 194

Giving Amos' parents' Marriage:
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BROWN William MARTIN Arabella Forest of Dean West Dean Christchurch 1845 1 8

In details from this site's PRs:

Record_ID: 2233
Entry_Number: 8
Year: 1845
Month: Nov
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: BROWN
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 20
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Christchurch
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Brown
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: John
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: MARTIN
Brides_Forenames: Arabella
Brides_Age: 18
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Christchurch
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Martin
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Richard
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: [not stated]
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of James Powell
Witness_2: Ann Martin
Other_Witnesses: None
Officiating_Minister: Tho. R. Garnsey
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: -
Notes: -
Register_Reference: PFC82 IN 1/7
Page_Number: 4
Parish_Chapel: Christchurch
Soundex_Groom: B650
Soundex_Bride: M635

This is Amos' own Marriage, again from this FoD site's PRs;

Record_ID: 15177
Entry_Number: 468
Year: 1884
Month: oct
Day: 11
Grooms_Surname: BROWN
Grooms_Forenames: Amos
Grooms_Age: 25
Groom_Condition: Batchelor
Grooms_Occupation: Collier
Grooms_Residence: Lane End
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Brown
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Brides_Surname: EBBORN
Brides_Forenames: Mary Ann
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Berry Hill
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Ebborn
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: William
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Farmer
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: both sign
Witness_1: William Ebborn
Witness_2: Bella Brown
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: Jo[hn] Jo[seph] Elsworth Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P245 IN 1/21
Page_Number: 234
Parish_Chapel: Parkend
Soundex_Groom: B650
Soundex_Bride: E165

GlosBMD confirms:
Marriage Details
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry
BROWN Amos EBBORN Mary Ann Forest of Dean Parkend St Paul 1884 2 468

As the 1911 Census showed they had at least six children, searching this site's Baptisms gives the following, more detail may be found within each individual PR:
Year Parents Surname Child Forenames Fathers Forenames Mothers Forenames Mothers Surname Residence Occupation Parish Chapel
1899 BROWN Jemima Ann, Amos William & Mary Ann, Broadwell Lane End, Colliery Proprietor, Coleford
1899 BROWN Fanny, Amos William & Mary Ann, Broadwell Lane End, Colliery Proprietor, Coleford
1899 BROWN Mary Isabil, Amos William & Mary Ann, Broadwell Lane End, Colliery Proprietor, Coleford
1899 BROWN Winifred Annie, Amos William & Mary Ann, Broadwell Lane End, Colliery Proprietor, Coleford
1901 BROWN Emma Elizabeth, Amos William & Mary Ann, Broadwell Lane End, Colliery Proprietor, Coleford
1902 BROWN Richard William, Amos William & Mary Ann, Broadwell Lane End, Colliery owner, Coleford

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REQUEST TO SITE ADMIN ?

Altho it's likely a fault with me not the site, apologies if it is - but judging from this my first use of the Advanced Search within the new site format, the displayed list of results no longer seems to include the PR reference number ?. The list does, of course, include a usefull hyperlink to the full PR, but I wonder if it's possible for this handy "shorthand" list to also include the number, when convenient, please ?. Thanks.

Amos William BROWN (reply)

MPGriffiths — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 12:34:17 +0000

http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Default.htm

Has a photograph of interior of Broadwell Memorial Hall - (August 2008) sent in my Zena M J MILLS - whose Great Grandfather

Amos William Martin BROWN - who lived at Wynold Hill House (article stated : died 1929)

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This is also in downloads (Misc. article) - an Indenture -referring to Amos William BROWN (1903) of Broadwell Lane End and William Henry BLACK (Grocer)

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Ancestry: probate

BROWN William Amos of Wynols Hill House, near Coleford, Gloucestershired, died 13 September 1930.

Probate, Llandaff 1 August to Mary Ann BROWN Widow and Richard William BROWN, colliery proprietor.

Effects: £6,668 6s. 9d.

Fod Records

Burial at Christchurch - 16 September 1930

Amos William BROWN

residence: Coleford

age: 71

Officiating Minster: Wyndham JONES (Vicar)

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1911 Wales Census

Scatherford, Nr Coleford, Glos (living in 12 rooms)

BROWN

Amos William - 52 - married 26 years, 6 children born alive, 5 living 1 dead -
Colliery Owner and Farmer, (own account) - born West Dean Parish

Mary Ann - wife - 41 - born Newland Parish
Fang? - daughter - 22 - single not married, born West Dean
Mary Isable - daughter - 16 - single -
Winniefred Anne - daughter 12- School
Emma Elizabeth - daughter - 10
Richard William - Son - 8

William NAPPIER - 45 single Working on Farm - born West Dean

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1901 Census, Broadwell Lane End

BROWN

Amos N BROWN - 42 - Colliery Proprietor
Mary A - 36
Jemime - dau - 14
Fanny - 12
Mary J - 6
Winefred - 2
Emma E - 1

Broadwell Memorial Hall

Colefordarea — Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:23:32 +0000

Hello,
We at the Coleford Area Partnership are researching the history of the Broadwell Memorial Hall including the original trustees.

We are also researching about Amos William (and his descendants) who donated land for the hall to be built.

If anyone has any information we would be very grateful.

Thanks,
Coleford Area Partnership