Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Margaret MURRELL / BRAIN 1847 Collafield / Edge Hill

Margaret MURRELL / BRAIN 1847 Collafield / Edge Hill (reply)

Roughyedbach — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:41:41 +0000

Thanks Jim, that's really reassuring. I share the same data and am most grateful for your input

Margaret MURRELL / BRAIN 1847 Collafield / Edge Hill (reply)

jimashton — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:08:32 +0000

I have Jessie Brain's sister Margaret who was baptised 26 Sep 1847 as married to George Tyler 1846 on 6 April 1868 Flaxley.

1871 Census Little Dean
George Tyler 25 Collier Newland
Margaret 22 East Dean
Jessie 2 East Dean
Elizabeth 1 East Dean

Jessie Brain 1849 who married Margaret Murrell 1849 on 14 May 1871 Drybrook was Killed in Mine accident - Foxes Bridge Mine. Fall of roof at the face of the twenty inch vein from a slip which he was aware of and a joint which was not visible. The place seemed to been fairly well timbered. He died 2lst December 1897. He was buried 26 Dec 1897 Cinderford.

Jessie & Margaret Brain were children from William Brain 1807's second marriage to Susannah Hayward. Susannah was a widow from a marriage to James Harris 1818 in 1839. This marriage produced a child Mary Ann Harris who confusingly married a William Brain 1838, son of James and Agnes.

William Brain 1807's first marriage was to Sophia Annis 1803, she was buried Little Dean 12 Mar 1843. A child from this marriage was called Beatta Brain 1834 who died in Westbury on Severn workhouse Jan 1894.

Jim Ashton

Margaret Murrell (reply)

lottabottle — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 20:39:48 +0000

HI Margaret murrell married Jessie Brain in 1871 . Jessie was the halfbrother to my great grandmother Mary Ann Harris Mary's mother was sussannah harris before she married William Brain . Mary ann Harris also married a William Brain

Margaret Murrell (reply)

Roughyedbach — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:40:54 +0000

Very strange, I have Margaret Brain (Jesse's sister) as married to George Tyler in 1868

Margaret MURRELL / BRAIN 1847 Collafield / Edge Hill (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:36:25 +0000

confused! two years difference

on GloucestershireBDM -

Margaret MURRELL 1849 - no mother's maiden name

Margaret BRAIN - 1847 - mother's maiden name HARRIS and HAYWARD

It is very confusing :-) I'm not convinced by the MURRELL ? BRAIN arguement either

Margaret MURRELL / BRAIN 1847 Collafield / Edge Hill (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:30:40 +0000

confused! two years difference

on GloucestershireBDM -

Margaret MURRELL 1849 - no mother's maiden name

Margaret BRAIN - 1847 - mother's maiden name HARRIS and HAYWARD

Margaret MURRELL / BRAIN 1847 Collafield / Edge Hill (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:20:35 +0000

Hi, I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Murrell b 1849. The same Margaret Murrell who married Jesse Brain at Drybrook 1871. Can anyone please help?

Many thanks

There are "strong grounds" to believe that she is "recorded as" Margaret BRAIN "daughter" of William BRAIN please see earlier posts in
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=8661

This is challenging and very confusing if Jesse is her "brother" or "half brother" - it is only in 1871 & 1891 that "Newent" features as Margaret's birthplace.

1891
Jesse Brain abt 1850 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Margaret Brain abt 1851 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Simeon Brain abt 1875 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Fred Brain abt 1877 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
William Brain abt 1879 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jane Brain abt 1882 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Emily Brain abt 1884 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
James Brain abt 1886 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jesse Brain abt 1889 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Ivy Brain abt 1890 Cinderford, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire

1881
Jessie Brain abt 1850 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
Margeret Brain abt 1851 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Brain abt 1869 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
Catherine Brain abt 1871 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
Charlott Brain abt 1873 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
Simeon Brain abt 1876 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Son Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
Frederick Brain abt 1878 Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England Son Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire
William Brain abt 1879 Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire, England Son Lea Bailey, Gloucestershire

1871 Edge Hill
William Badin 67
Beta Badin 37
Jesse Badin 21
Margaret Hannel 22 Newent
Elizabeth Hannel 2 Edge Hill
Catherine Hannel 8 Months Edge Hill

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1861
William Brain abt 1807 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Susannah Brain abt 1822 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Reata Brain abt 1833 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Margaret Brain abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jessee Brain abt 1849 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

1851
William Brain abt 1805 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Susannah Brain abt 1823 Littledean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Berta Brain abt 1834 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary A H Brain abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Margarett Brain abt 1848 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Jessee Brain abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1847
Month: Sep
Day: 26
Parents_Surname: BRAIN
Child_Forenames: Margaret
Fathers_Forenames: Will[ia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Susan
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: of Edge Hill
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: age 3 wks
Notes:
Register_Reference: RG4/772
Page_Number:
Parish_Chapel: Coleford Wesleyan Methodist

William MURRELL (reply)

Roughyedbach — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:20:30 +0000

Thanks very much for your time x

William MURRELL + Elizabeth KENT - 1849 (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:16:58 +0000

1851 Census, Warwickshire, Aston Deritend (can't find them after this census)

MURRELL

William -married 22 - born Newent, Glos
Elizabeth - married - 24 - born Newent, Glos

(no children!)

GlosBDM have a marriage of a William MURRELL to Elizabeth KENT - 1849 St Mark's Gloucester

Margaret Murrell (reply)

Roughyedbach — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:48:07 +0000

Thanks for the speedy reply. I'll keep poking around.

Margaret Murrell (reply)

m p griffiths — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:30:03 +0000

FOD records, Marriage at Drybrook 1 May 1871

Jesse BRAIN, age 22, Bachelor, Miner, residence Collafield

father: William BRAIN, Lime Burner

married

Margaret MURRELL, age 22, Spinster - residence: Collafield

father: William MURRELL, Miner, by banns

mark of Bibe PHELPS and Leah GRINDALL

1871 Census - (pre marriage)
Collafield

Transcribed by Ancestry as BADIN and HANNELL

BRAIN/MURRELL

William BADIN - Coalminer, age 67 - born Glos Edge Hill
Beta BADIN - 37 - born Brierley, Glos
Jesse BADIN - 21 - born Glos Edge Hill
Margaret HANNEL (MURRELL) - mother of grandchildren - 22 - all born Edge Hill
Elizabeth HANNELL - age 8
Catherine HANNELL - 8 months

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GloucestershireBDM

Margaret MURRELL, 1849 Glos.Newent (no mother's maiden name)

... just throwing this in???

1851 Census, Glos. Gloucester St John the Baptist
Han Land

Thomas SNOWSELL - Wdr - 27, Journeyman Malster born Glos
James HOOPER 22 common labourer, born Glos. Upton St Leonard
and

Harriett MURRELL - unmarried 29 - House Servant, all born Newent
Charlotte MURRALL - unmarried 24
Emily MURRALL - dau of (a) ? age 2
Rose - age 1 (same again for Rose MURRELL on Glos BDM - Newent)

Margaret Murrell

Roughyedbach — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 13:07:29 +0000

Hi, I'm looking for the parents of Margaret Murrell b 1849. The same Margaret Murrell who married Jesse Brain at Drybrook 1871. Can anyone please help?

Many thanks