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<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Brilliant slowhands, thank you so much!  </p>
<p>I thought I had exhausted all the different spellings possible in 1851, I've been trying for ages!  But I hadn't reckoned on Ellen Helps from Woolaston being called Ann from Olveston with two 'l's two 'p's !!  You are clever x</p>
<p>Thank you for also letting me know you think I'm on the right track, I can carry on with parents now.  Thanks again.</p>
</blockquote><p>Sometimes all it takes is a fresh pair of eyes  - bless the Enumerator who probably didin't know that Woolaston was just across the River from Olveston / Alveston.....</p>
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<title>John HELPS 1828 Bristol (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant slowhands, thank you so much!  </p>
<p>I thought I had exhausted all the different spellings possible in 1851, I've been trying for ages!  But I hadn't reckoned on Ellen Helps from Woolaston being called Ann from Olveston with two 'l's two 'p's !!  You are clever x</p>
<p>Thank you for also letting me know you think I'm on the right track, I can carry on with parents now.  Thanks again.</p>
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<title>John HELPS 1828 Bristol (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1851<br />
John Hellpps abt 1827 Bristol Head Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  Painter / Glazier<br />
 Ann Hellpps  abt 1824 Olveston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Ellen Hellpps  abt 1848 Bristol Daughter Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire </p>
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1861<br />
John Helps abt 1829 Gloucestershire, England Head Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Jane Helps abt 1825 Bristol Wife Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Ellen Helps  abt 1848 Bristol Daughter Bristol St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>1871<br />
John Helps 39 <br />
Jane Helps 42 </p>
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1881<br />
John Helps abt 1831 Bristol St Philips Head Bristol St Paul In, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Jane Helps  abt 1830 Woolaston, Gloucestershire, England Wife Bristol St Paul In, Gloucestershire</p>
<p>Name: John Helps <br />
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822 <br />
Date of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1890 <br />
Age at Death: 68 <br />
Registration district: Bristol <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 21 </p>
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1891<br />
Isaac Ellis  abt 1850 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Head St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Ellen Ellis   abt 1849 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Wife St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Walter Ellis abt 1874 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 James Ellis  abt 1876 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Alfred Ellis abt 1878 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Son St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Rose Ellis  abt 1882 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Ellen Ellis  abt 1885 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Blanche Ellis  abt 1887 Bristol, Gloucestershire, England Daughter St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire  <br />
 Jane Helps  abt 1818 Woolaston, Monmouthshire, Wales Mother-in-law St Philip and St Jacob, Gloucestershire </p>
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1901 Bristol Workhouse<br />
Jane Helps  abt 1821 Gloucestershire, England Inmate Bristol, Gloucestershire </p>
<p>Name: Jane Helps <br />
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825 <br />
Date of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1908 <br />
Age at Death: 83 <br />
Registration district: Bristol <br />
Inferred County: Gloucestershire <br />
Volume: 6a <br />
Page: 147</p>
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<title>Jane CROOME  1822 Woolaston - associated thread (reply)</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sure you have the correct one !</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=7325#p7326">http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&amp;id=7325#p7326</a></p>
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<title>Jane CROOME born about 1822 Woolaston</title>
<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I am looking for help establishing exactly who my great, great grandmother Jane CROOME was!  She was born around 1822 in Woolaston, Glos. - either her age varies considerably or I have the wrong one!</p>
<p>The facts are she married John Edward HELPS (born 1829 aged 19) in Bristol on 22 Mar 1848 when Jane was 24.  According to their marriage certificate her father was John HELPS, a labourer.   I believe they had only one child, a daughter Ellen HELPS 1849-1893, my great grandmother. The 1891 census lists her living in Bristol with her daughter, HELPS, Jane Mother In Law Widow F 73 1818 Woolasten Monmouthshire Gloucestershire.  She died in Bristol in 1908 aged 83. </p>
<p>Unless anyone knows differently, I presume this may be her baptism in the FOD parish records:<br />
Record_ID: 73813  Entry_Number: 232  Year: 1822  Month: Aug  Day: 23 <br />
Parents_Surname: CROOME <br />
Child_Forenames: Jane <br />
Fathers_Forenames: John <br />
Mothers_Forenames: Jane <br />
Mothers_Surname:  <br />
Residence: Woolaston <br />
Occupation: Labourer <br />
Officiating_Minister: C Bryan <br />
Event: Baptism <br />
Memoranda: Daughter of <br />
Notes:  Register_Reference: P376 IN 1/4  Page_Number: 29  <br />
Parish_Chapel: Woolaston  Soundex: C650 </p>
<p>Secondly, I am looking for help finding John Edward and Jane HELPS on the 1851 census.  I can track them back by census to 1841 and in 1861 when all three were living in Bristol; Jane being described as a char woman or domestic servant.  But I can't find either of them anywhere on the 1851 census when they would have been married for 2 or 3 years - can anyone else find them please?  </p>
<p>1841 Census:<br />
Address: Bowlash Parish Of Woollaston, Woollaston </p>
<p>EDWARDS, Thomas M 25 1816  Gloucestershire <br />
EDWARDS, Mary Ann F 30 1811  Gloucestershire <br />
EDWARDS, Ann F 8 1833  Gloucestershire <br />
EDWARDS, Hannah F 7 1834  Gloucestershire <br />
EDWARDS, Eliza F 5 1836  Gloucestershire <br />
EDWARDS, Thomas M 3 1838  Gloucestershire <br />
EDWARDS, Matilda F 1 1840  Gloucestershire <br />
CROOME, Jane F 20 1821  Gloucestershire  <br />
RG number: HO107  Piece: 369  Book/Folio: 4  Page: 2  Registration District: Chepstow Sub District: Lydney  Civil Parish: Woollaston County: Gloucestershire <br />
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I would appreciate any assistance or to hear from anyone who has researched or has connections with the CROOME or HELPS families.  Thank you in advance!</p>
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