Forest of Dean FHT Forum - St Johns Cinderford

St Johns Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:46:32 +0000

I am still unable to find a way to locate the graves in the Cinderford St. John graveyard -or whether they are still visible. I don't find anything under the memorandum part of the burial records for James or Martha Wood or for Harriet Wood. The links you sent me are to the Forum discussion of Cinderford St John but apply to what the items under memorandum mean? I find nothing under the memorandum space. Perhaps I will have better luck at the graveyard in Awre Saint Andrews where Samuel and Mary Hewlett are buried or at the Blakeney Tabernacle where William Wood is buried. Lynn

The Verger / Churchwarden may be able to help...
http://www.stjohnscinderford.org/page3.html

St Johns Cinderford (reply)

unknown — Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:17:46 +0000

I am still unable to find a way to locate the graves in the Cinderford St. John graveyard -or whether they are still visible. I don't find anything under the memorandum part of the burial records for James or Martha Wood or for Harriet Wood. The links you sent me are to the Forum discussion of Cinderford St John but apply to what the items under memorandum mean? I find nothing under the memorandum space. Perhaps I will have better luck at the graveyard in Awre Saint Andrews where Samuel and Mary Hewlett are buried or at the Blakeney Tabernacle where William Wood is buried. Lynn

St Johns Cinderford (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:59:48 +0000

Is there a graveyard attached to St John the Evangelist, Cinderford?

Yes there is http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=25449

WOOD/DREW (reply)

unknown — Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:13:55 +0000

Thanks, I see the 9 James Wood wills and the East Dean one in 1850. My James Wood died in Jul and the index says the will is dated Oct so unless that is the probate date it isn't my James. I would love it to be his father, but as he would be well over 100 in 1850 I don't think that likely. I will try to take a look at the actual will in Salt Lake City this Oct, if they have it on microfilm, and see if perchance it is William's brother, James. I am confused by Cinderford's churches. I followed the link you sent on Cinderford Baptist church but didn't find anything but the history. I was hoping for a record to graves. Both James WOOD [bur. 30 Jul 1850] and his wife, Martha MASON WOOD [bur. 20 Nov 1861]were buried "Cinderford St. John" by J. G. Smythies. I see online a graveyard attached to Cinderford Baptist Chapel. Is that what is meant? Is there a graveyard attached to St John the Evangelist, Cinderford? Their children were non conformist so I have doubted they were buried at St. John the Evangelist. Do either of these churches have a list of those buried there? Lynn

JAMES WOOD 1765 - 1850 Stapledge Lodge (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 14:05:28 +0000

Your post mentions a William WOOD as a possible brother to James [born 14/15 Jun 1766], the father of William WOOD [m. 1827, d.1877]. James had siblings born in Little Dean as he was. Is Flaxley nearby --near enough for William born in 1765 in Flaxley to be an older brother to James?

Yes probably within a 2 mile radius

Also in the 1861 census in the Parish of East Dean where the Drew's were living is what looks like L. D. Hill - Little Dean Hill?? - is there such a place?

Yes

The question still remains - how to prove that the James WOOD who married Martha MASON is the one who was baptized 14/15 Jun 1766, son of James and Elizabeth.

Balance of probabilities looking good, absolute proof is often hard to establish

WOOD/DREW (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 08 Jul 2012 08:26:11 +0000

Wills can prove useful in establishing family groups.

Gloucestershire Genealogical database

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx

9 James WOOD wills -

inc a Will of a James WOOD 1850-243, labourer, East Dean - dated 26 October 1850

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Cinderford Baptist Church

http://richardnet.co.uk/genealogy/bapchap.htm

DREW/WOOD surname mentioned

JAMES WOOD 1765 - 1850 Stapledge Lodge (reply)

unknown — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 21:08:51 +0000

Thank you for your swift reply. I hadn't found Martha Wood in the 1861 census. Actually I had never looked since she died in 1861 --- but, now I see, not until months after the census was taken. Thanks to you I see her living with her youngest daughter, Mary An [sic] Drew. My husband and I will be coming to the Forest of Dean for the first time this August so only know the area from afar. Your post mentions a William WOOD as a possible brother to James [born 14/15 Jun 1766], the father of William WOOD [m. 1827, d.1877]. James had siblings born in Little Dean as he was. Is Flaxley nearby --near enough for William born in 1765 in Flaxley to be an older brother to James? Also in the 1861 census in the Parish of East Dean where the Drew's were living is what looks like L. D. Hill - Little Dean Hill?? - is there such a place? Anthony and Susannah COOPER as witnesses along with William WOOD to the marriage of James Wood and Martha MASON are still a mystery to me. I don't know anything about Martha MASON yet so assume they must be relations of hers. The question still remains - how to prove that the James WOOD who married Martha MASON is the one who was baptized 14/15 Jun 1766, son of James and Elizabeth. Lynn

JAMES WOOD 1765 - 1850 Stapledge Lodge (reply)

slowhands — Sat, 07 Jul 2012 06:16:27 +0000

With rounded ages in 1841 and an age at death, 1765/6 looks good(ish) for his birth
Balance of probability is working in your favour- absolute proof is often very diffcult.

Siblings - Brother / witness William ?

1765 WOOD William James Elizabeth Flaxley
1768 WOOD Sarah James Elizabeth Littledean
1769 WOOD Ann James Elizabeth Littledean

Year 1766
Month Jun
Day 14
Parents Surname WOODS
Child Forenames James
Fathers Forenames James
Mothers Forenames Elizabeth
Mothers Surname
Residence
Occupation
Officiating Minister Whetham Hill minister
Event Baptism
Memoranda
Notes Date is 15 June in BTs
Register Reference P 110 IN 1/3
Page Number 28
Parish Chapel Littledean

Year: 1789
Month: Dec
Day: 13
Grooms_Surname: WOOD
Grooms_Forenames: James
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: [not stated]
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MASON
Brides_Forenames: Martha
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: [not stated]
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: this Parish [Littledean]
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Licence
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He signs she marks
Witness_1: William Wood
Witness_2: Susannah Cooper
Other_Witnesses: Anth[on]y Cooper
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m Fryer Min[iste]r
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P110 IN 1/8
Page_Number: 38
Parish_Chapel: Littledean

1841 Stapledge Enclosure
James Wood abt 1771 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire Woodman
Martha Wood abt 1776 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire
James Wood abt 1828 Gloucestershire, England Dean Forest, Gloucestershire

Year: 1850
Month: Jul
Day: 30
Surname: WOOD
Forenames: James
Residence: Stapleage Lodge Enclosure
Age_at_death: 85 Yrs
Officiating_Minister: J.G.Smythies
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 in 1/12
Page_No: 11
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

1851 Stapledge Lodge
William Wood abt 1805 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Wood abt 1809 Blakeney, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Harriot Wood abt 1840 Bream, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
John Wood abt 1846 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Wood abt 1771 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Mother East Dean, Gloucestershire

1861 Littledean Hill
John Drew abt 1810 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean, Gloucestershire Poor rate collector
Mary An Drew abt 1812 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean, Gloucestershire
Alice Drew abt 1841 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Anne Drew abt 1845 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Catherine Drew abt 1850 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Drew abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean, Gloucestershire
Martha Wood abt 1769 Westbury, Gloucestershire, England Mother-in-law East Dean, Gloucestershire

Year: 1861
Month: Nov
Day: 20
Surname: WOOD
Forenames: Martha
Residence: Woodside
Age_at_death: 92 years
Officiating_Minister: J.G.Smythies
Event: Burial
Cause_of_death:
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P85/1 in 1/12
Page_No: 53
Parish_Chapel: Cinderford St John

JAMES WOOD,married 1789, Little Dean; d.1850 Stapledge Lodge

unknown — Fri, 06 Jul 2012 17:41:36 +0000

Searching for the parents of James WOOD, who married Martha MASON, 13 Dec 1789, and died 30 Jul 1850. There is a baptism of a James WOOD on 15 Jun 1766, son of Jam[sic] and Elizabeth WOOD in Little Dean. This same couple baptized a Sarah the 21 Feb 1768 and an Ann the 19 Nov 1769 also in Little Dean. How can I determine if this is my James WOOD? The James WOOD whose parents I seek was a Keeper [Woodward/woodreve] of the Forest of Dean as was his son, William. Both James and William lived at Stapledge Lodge. This is the William WOOD who married first to Harriot EVANS in 18 Aug 1827 and second to Mary by 1851. William WOOD died in 1877.Thank you for any help you might be able to give. Lynn