Forest of Dean FHT Forum - WARREN/C..ter/VOYCE/MOREFIELD

WARREN/C..ter/VOYCE/MOREFIELD (reply)

sqwearle — Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:17:07 +0000

Thank you so much for that information - will help a lot. did have the Census with William, James and the Badham's on - so pleased that was confirmed as correct.

Can move forward now.
Thank you again.

Shirley D.

When I was searching the Sandhurst pages earlier it was very strange to see a 'Dalley' amongst them. Mine were from Ledbury though.

WARREN/C..ter/VOYCE/MOREFIELD (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 10 Feb 2013 12:40:23 +0000

Glos BDM

Albert Frederick ESTCOURT - mother's surname: ESTCOURT, mother's maiden name: MOORFIELD - 1892, Gloucester, St John the Baptist.

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It would seem Jane had left her husband....

1891 Census, Glos. South Hamlet

Jane ESTCOTT - 31, unmarried - and daughter Alice 6 are lodging with

the GUYS

Louisa - 39 - born Wiltshire
Emily - 18
Kate - 7
Mabel - 4
George - 6 months

Alice has been 'dittoed' GUYS - but is ESTCOTT

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1871 Census, Glos St John the Baptist

STEDDART

Joseph STODDART, 38 - labourer
Mary - 36
Jane MOREFIELD, Visitor, age 9 - born Sandhurst

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1881 Census, Glos St Aldate

Joseph STODDART - 47 - labourer
Mary - 46
Mary - 79,
Jane MOREFIELD, 18 - Laundress

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There are MOREFIELD families in Sandhurst

1861 Census, Glos. Ashleworth

Mary A Cook - 42
Emma - 7
Charles - 4
Thomas VORCE/VOYCE - 22 (Surname in a previous reply)
Sarah A MOREFIELD - 17 - born Sandhurst

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Glos BDM

Thomas VOYCE married Sarah Ann MOREFIELD - Gloucester, Sandhurst St Lawrence - 1865

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Glosbdm

Jane Moreland STODDART married William ESTCOURT - 1882, Glos. St Aldate

ESTCOURT - mother's former name STODDART

Henry - 1883 - Gloucester St John the Baptist
Alice - 1885 - Gloucester St John the Baptist
Ellen - 1887 - Gloucester, South Hamlet

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???
There are trees on Ancestry - and one gives this 1891 Census at Gloucester, Barton St Mary (South Hamlet)

William ESTCOURT 30 - married Bricklayer
James - son - 1 (appears to have died 9 October 1898 age 9)
Ann ESTCOURT, mother - widow 71
William BADHAM - 13 - Post Errand Boy, born Gloucester, Newent ***

(this tree says Jane was born 1862 - Sandhurst, Glos)

and also gives

1901 Census, South Hamlet

ESTCOURT

William - 39 - born Hempstead, Glos
Ellen - 28 - born Newent
Dorothy - 6
Winifred - 3
Beatrice - 1

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1911 Census, Moor Street, Gloucester (married 18 years)

EASTCOURT *** (looking at Gloucestershirebdm - the mother's maiden name for these children is BADHAM)

William Thomas - 50 Bricklayer, born Hempsted, Glos
Ellen - 42 - born Newent
Winniefred - 14
Albert - 9
Violet- 5
Harriet - 2

George WARREN/CARPENTER/VOYCE (reply)

sqwearle — Sat, 09 Feb 2013 19:38:05 +0000

I too am trying to do research on this family and have found it very difficult. I am still looking for Jane Estcourt on the 1891 Census - beleive that William may have died in 1890 - so not appearing on 1891 Census - it seems a very mixed up family.
I had researched that Jane was Jane Moreland Stoddart and that she married William in 1882 Gloucester, making it pretty much in line with Alice being born in 1884. So, was Albert the son of William too?
Regards
Shirley Dalley - Green family research - Ledbury

George WARREN/CARPENTER/VOYCE (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:22:14 +0000

1911 Census, Frome Hill, Ledbury
Gospel Ash

living in 3 rooms (married 20 years - 10/9 (10 crossed out) born alive, 5 living - 4 dead

WARREN

George - 56 - Farm Labourer, born Newent
Jane - 48 - Farm Labourer, born Southwest Glos.
Albert ESTCOURT - wife's son - 21 - Farm labourer, born Gloucester
William WARREN - 17 - farm labourer, born Newent, Glos *
Frederick WARREN - 10 - born Bosbury, Herefordshire
Florrie WARREN - 8 - born Ledbury,
John WARREN - 5 - born Ashperton, Herefordshire

* Freebdm - BIRTH O/N/D Qtt 1893, Newent: William ESTCOURT

Gloucestershirebdm: William ESTCOURT - 1893 Newent, mother's maiden name: VOYCE

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1901 Census

George WARREN - 45
Jane ESCOURT - Head (crossed out) Wife - 38
Alice - 17 - born Gloucester
Albert - 11 - born Gloucester
William - 8 - born Newent
Alfred - 2 - born Bosbury, Herefordshire **

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1891 Census, Glos. Newent

Mary WARREN - Head - Widow - 60 born Worcestershire Redmarley, cripple
William CARPENTER - son - 39 - labourer, born Gloucestershire Newent

+ 3 others

then

Charles CARPENTER - 70 - born Newent
Mary A - 73
Annie WHITE - Niece - 13 - born Newent
George ELLIOTT - Visitor - 9 - Scholar, born Liverpool

1881 Census, Newent, Cliffords Mesne

Mary WARREN - Head - U - 50 - born Redmarley, Blind in one eye
William CARPENTER - son - unmarried - 21 Ag. Lab. born Cliffords Mesne, Glos
George Henry CARPENTER - son - unm - 18 - ditto

(just above them)

Charles CARPENTER - Head - mar - 60 Ag. Lab. born Newent
Mary Ann - wife - 63 - born Newent
James WARREN - Lodger - mar - 23 - Ag Lab. born Newent
Julia WARREN - Lodger, mar - 17 - born Newent
Lydia CARPENTER - Grand-dau - 11 - Scholar, born Newent
Blanche WARREN - lodger - 4 months - born Newent

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1871 Census, Clifford Mesne -

has a whole census page of WARREN/CARPENTER

inc

Mary WARREN - Widow - 39 - born Worcs. Redmarley
William CARPENTER - son - 10 born Newent
George CARPENTER - son - 8 - born Newent
Jane WARREN - Step-daughter - 21

---FOD records, Baptism at Newent

William CARPENTER - 9 April 1860

parents : Samuel & Mary

residence: Clifford's Mesne

notes: Private entered in left margin

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1861 Census, Cliffords Mesne

Samuel CARPENTER - 51 - Wood Cutter, born Newent
Mary CARPENTER - 30 - born Worcestershire, Redmarley
William CARPENTER -1

next door

William WARREN - Widower - 66 - Ag Lab. born Newent
Eliza CARPENTER - M - 37 - Servant
Jane WARREN - 10
Emma CARPENTER - 7 - all Boarders
James CARPENTER - 5
Louisa CARPENTER - 3

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George Warren born 1855 Cliffords Mesne

Jfishx — Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:07:23 +0000

Hi there

I am having trouble finding out any more information about George Warren. The information I have found is that he was born in 1855 in Cliffords Mesne Gloucestershire, he lived with (not sure if they were married) a Jane Escourt on the 1901 census and have children named Alice, Albert, William and Alfred in Ashperton Herefordshire.

I am looking for any information about him or Jane Escourt and William who was my Great Grandfather.

Any help would be appreciated!

Thank you

Jacquie