Forest of Dean FHT Forum - James GRIFFITHS/Harriet MEEK

James GRIFFITHS/Harriet MEEK (reply)

shepway — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:50:40 +0000

Harriet should be described as a widow on the certificate. If you are in the UK you could contact the Registrar at Cinderford to establish that it is the certificate you seek. Details are:
The Register Office,
Belle Vue Centre,
6 Belle Vue Road
Cinderford
GL14 2AB
Telephone 01594 822113

If you call by telephone then do so in the mornings only.

Best wishes
Mike

James GRIFFITHS/Harriet MEEK (reply)

Jenny White — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 08:30:09 +0000

Michael,

Oh I see, Harriet may have been married before. Why didn't I think of that.

Thank you for the information. Just when I think I have the Griffiths and the Meeks all sorted there is another little twist thrown into the pot for good measure. Good fun though.

If Harriet was married and widowed before she married James Griffiths will it say this on the marriage certificate?

I shall have to order the certificate.

Many thanks again,

Jenny

James GRIFFITHS/Harriet MEEK (reply)

shepway — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 06:00:48 +0000

This will need checking by obtaining certificates:

Marriages Dec 1862
Hodges Charles Westbury S. 6a 377
Meek Harriet Westbury S. 6a 377

Deaths Jun 1864
Hodges Charles Westbury S. 6a 155

Marriages Dec 1865
Griffiths James Westbury S 6a 445
Hodges Harriett Westbury S 6a 445

Good luck
Mike

James GRIFFITHS/Harriet MEEK

Jenny White — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:07:33 +0000

I wonder if someone is able to help me solve a mystery.

I have been looking for the marriage of James Griffiths to Harriet Meek for some time now. I have trawled through all the BMD's for several years both before and after the date when their first child was born and cannot find a marriage. Others also have looked for this marriage.

Harriet Meek always give her birthplace as Lea Bailey on all Census about 1846 and James Griffiths was born Ruardean. There is a baptism for James Griffiths in 1847 on the Baptist Circuit so it is possible they were non-confirmists.

James and Harriet's first child, Elizabeth was born 1868, High Beech. The couple had three more children and moved before 1881 to Hoyland Nether in Barnsley. The 1871 and 1881 census has them as husband and wife. By 1891 James and Harriet look to have separated, James is living in Wombwell, Barnsley and Harriet is housekeeper in Chesterfield. The 1891 census still shows them both declaring they are married.

On Amelia Jane Griffiths birth certificate, (James and Harriet's daughter), Harriet is shown as Harriet Griffiths formerly Meek.

On 1901 census after much searching, I have found Harriet in Chesterfield, as Harriet Meek, she says she is single and is a housekeeper. Her "husband" James Griffiths is living with his daughter Amelia Jane in Barnsley and he thinks he is still married.

Question. Do I assume this couple never married and just lived together, or that Harriet decided eventually after living apart from her "husband" for so long she would revert back to her maiden name.

If anyone could find the marriage it would clear up a mystery.

Thanks

Jenny