Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Old Engine

Old Engine (reply)

billingham — Mon, 15 May 2006 09:48:20 +0000

Thanks for that I found this that other researchers may be intrested in.

http://www.sungreen.co.uk/Cinderford/Steam-Mills-Cinderford.htm

Old Engine (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 15 May 2006 06:21:30 +0000

Old Engine is an area in the Forest,near Steam Mills north of Cinderford

Old Coal mine called Old Engine Colliery near Bennett's Mill - this mill was a steam powered corn mill, which is thought to be why the area is now known as Steam Mills...

In 1856 the Beerhouse was called Old Engine after the colliery . by 1878 the Old Engine Inn was in new premises as the Newtown of Steam Mills developed.

http://www.old-maps.co.uk/
364901,215700

< and you will find the Old Engine Brook and Inn there as well>

George ABELL 1851 Painswick Inn keeper (reply)

admin — Mon, 15 May 2006 00:00:24 +0000

Old Engine, East Dean, would this be refering to a Ale House or Inn or is it simply a district of the Forest. I note from my family records that George's last child Sarah Abell b 24 February 1856, was living at Old Engine, East Dean, Glous. Possibly born there. Does it still exist?

George ABELL 1851 Painswick Inn keeper (reply)

billingham — Sat, 13 May 2006 05:44:51 +0000

Double WoW! You must have a hard drive the size of a house with all that information available. The Gloucestershire Pubs site is great and a real insight thanks. I will be ordering a copy of the book too thank you.

George ABELL 1851 Painswick Inn keeper (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 12 May 2006 23:29:25 +0000

Yes in 1851 George Snr is down as an Inn Holder in St Marys Street Painswick.

so could be the Royal Oak or New Inn... ( not named in Census return)

by 1861 he is a Miller in Bill Mill, Penyard

George ABELL 1852 Painswick -> Penyard (reply)

billingham — Fri, 12 May 2006 21:56:31 +0000

WOW! thanks that was quick, I really appreciate the work you have done much of which I had already had on file however you have provided me with some new information, for that I thank you. I am really trying to find out if George ABELL had an Inn, there are some scant notes with my family tree that suggest that he was an Inn Keeper circa 1850. Unfortunately no location or Inn name. Again Many thanks.

George ABELL 1852 Painswick -> Penyard (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 12 May 2006 20:23:29 +0000

1901
George Abell abt 1852 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Head Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
Margeret Abell abt 1847 Bailey, Herefordshire, England Wife Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
William Trott Abell abt 1881 Penge London, Surrey, England Son Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
Lydia Abell abt 1888 Bailey, Herefordshire, England Daughter Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
Ashbel Abell abt 1889 Bailey, Herefordshire, England Son Weston under Penyard Herefordshire

1891 Palmers Hill
George Abell abt 1852 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Head Weston Herefordshire
Margaret Abell abt 1848 Bailer, Herefordshire, England Wife Weston Herefordshire
Ashbel Abell abt 1889 Palmershill, Herefordshire, England Son Weston Herefordshire
George N Abell abt 1891 Palmershill, Herefordshire, England Son Weston Herefordshire
Lydia Abell abt 1888 Palmershill, Herefordshire, England Daughter Weston Herefordshire
William H R Trott abt 1881 Penge Stepson Weston Herefordshire

next door
George A bell abt 1815 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Head Weston Herefordshire
Kate Meredith abt 1874 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Weston Herefordshire

1881
George Able abt 1814 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Head Weston Under Penyard Herefordshire
Elizabeth Able abt 1814 Winslow, Gloucestershire, England Wife Weston Under Penyard Herefordshire
George Able abt 1855 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Son Weston Under Penyard Herefordshire
Kate Meredith abt 1874 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Granddaughter Weston Under Penyard

Herefordshire

1871
George Able abt 1817 Cirencester Head Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
Elizth Able abt 1817 Winsham, Gloucestershire, England Wife Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
George Able abt 1853 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Weston under Penyard

Herefordshire
Elizth Able abt 1850 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Weston under Penyard Herefordshire

1861
George Abell abt 1814 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Head Weston under Penyard

Herefordshire
Elizabeth Abell abt 1814 Winstone, Gloucestershire, England Wife Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
Elizabeth A Abell abt 1849 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Weston under

Penyard Herefordshire
George Abell abt 1856 Gloucestershire, England Son Weston under Penyard Herefordshire
Sarah Abell abt 1852 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Weston under Penyard

Herefordshire
William Abell abt 1850 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Son Weston under Penyard

Herefordshire

1851
George Abell abt 1814 Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England Head Painswick Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Abell abt 1814 Sutgrove, Gloucestershire, England Wife Painswick Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Abell abt 1850 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Painswick Gloucestershire
William Abell abt 1850 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Son Painswick Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Dickenson abt 1840 Sutgrove, Gloucestershire, England Servant Painswick Gloucestershire
John W Driver abt 1836 Painswick, Gloucestershire, England Stepson Painswick Gloucestershire

1841 ( Able as Abb )
HO107/363/12
Registration district: Stroud
Sub-registration district: Painswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Folio: 14
Page: 4

George Abb abt 1816 Gloucestershire, England Cranham Gloucestershire

Could be born Duntisbourne nr Ciren.

Inns and Public Houses (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 12 May 2006 20:01:50 +0000

one source ( there are others )

http://www.easywell.co.uk/pubs/

Gloucestershire Pubs and Breweries
Tempus Publishing have now released Gloucestershire Pubs and Breweries.
It is available in the shops and also on line at the Tempus Publishing website
http://www.tempus-publishing.com/

and now an Amazon bestseller ! ( at least for Gloucestershire titles...)

George ABELL.

Michael Billingham — Fri, 12 May 2006 13:19:49 +0000

I am looking for any publication or work that has been done on Inn's, public Houses etc. in the Forest of Dean areas. I am looking for information on George Abell, Weston-under-Penyard, circa 1850.