Forest of Dean FHT Forum - William Newell/Newall family

William Newell/Newall family (reply)

daveymg07 — Fri, 13 May 2016 10:20:18 +0000

Thanks so much for the help, I had found some of the same info but as you suggest it was a little conflicting. The marriage though I had not seen previously, thats a great new lead to check.

I would under the circumstances agree that it would appear Elizabeth was born out of wedlock and that Mary as you suggested married the father later.

Again thank you for all the effort, I have found the records here of immeasurable help as both my maternal and paternal ancestors came from the Forrest of Dean.

Gratefully yours, David Gould

William Newell/Newall family (reply)

Mike Pinchin — Thu, 12 May 2016 19:39:16 +0000

Maybe this is a possible scenario:-

For reference, from FODFHT

Record_ID: 116671
Entry_Number: 431
Year: 1861
Month: Mar
Day: 19
Parents_Surname: NEWELL
Child_Forenames: Elizabeth Charlotte
Fathers_Forenames: [not stated]
Mothers_Forenames: Mary Ann
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: East Dean
Occupation: Labourers daughter
Officiating_Minister: W[illia]m D Hall
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: 523
Page_Number: 54
Parish_Chapel: Lea

From GR 1871 Census, Paradise Buildings, Holmer, Hereford

Thomas DAVIES, Head, Mar, 45, Labourer, b. Glostershire, East Dean
Ann, Wife, Mar, 49, Glostershire, Winchcombe
William, Son, Un, 14, Scholar, Glostershire, East Dean,
Elizabeth NEWELL, Grand daur, Un, 10, Scholar, Glostershire, East Dean

On the face of it (and neglecting complications such as step-children) Elizabeth NEWELL would have to be the child of a daughter of Thomas DAVIES. So perhaps Mary Ann NEWELL was actually Mary Ann DAVIS when the child was born?

From GR 1861 Census, East Dean, Holy Trinity

Thomas DAVIS, Head, Mar, 33, Stone Quarrier, b. East Dean, Glos,
Ann, Wife, Mar, 37, Winchcombe
Mary Ann , Daughter, Un, 19,East Dean, Glos.
Christopher Thos, Son, Un, 10, East Dean, Glos.
James, Son, Un, 7, East Dean, Glos
William, Son, Un, 4, East Dean, Glos
Elizabeth, Daughter, 2m, East Dean, Glos.

Since the name NEWELL was taken up perhaps Mary Ann did eventually marry a William NEWELL. This is a good candidate,

GR General Register

First Name MARY A
Last Name DAVIES
Gender Female
Year 1866
Spouse
Image Quarter 1
Country England
County Staffordshire
District DUDLEY
District Number
Registry Number
Volume 6C
Page 92
Line Number 246
Entry Number
Mary A Davies married one of the people below:
William NEWELL
Edward WHEELER

William Newell/Newall family

daveymg07 — Wed, 11 May 2016 13:12:21 +0000

Hello, I was wondering if anyone can help me with information about my great grandmother Elizabeth Charlotte Newall, she was baptism in East Dean, March 1861 in Lea, Parish Chapel.

She married my great grandfather Charles Butcher in the Church of St.Lukes on 13th October 1879.

Her place of residence is shown as East Dean, her father being shown on the marriage certificate as William Newell, laborer.

I would be grateful for any information about the Newell/Newall family from the Forrest of Dean area

Regards David Gould