Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Timothy TRIGG 1843 + Mary ?

Timothy TRIGG 1843 + Mary ? (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:48:13 +0000

I cannot follow the Penn connection, could someone explain.

There was speculation that Mary PENN was the future wife , I think it now looks like Mary MEEK - but I would need to revisit the thread !

Timothy TRIGG 1843 s/o John and Ann (reply)

Jim Ashton — Fri, 30 Sep 2005 10:32:27 +0000

My main area of research is the Marfell family. I believe that Timothy Trigg is descended from the Marfells.
I have his father as John Trigg b. 1818 & Ann Matthews b. 1817.
John Trigg being son of George Benjamin Trigg b. 1789 & Lucy Marfell b. 1795.
Lucy was the daughter of John Marfell 1769/18.9.1840 & his first wife Elizabeth Roberts 1769/6.3.1802.

The following census entry had me foxed initially as I didn't have the second name Benjamin, all the other people match with my findings :

1851 Census East Dean
TRIGG Benjamin Widow/er 63 Lime Burner Dean Forest
MEREDITH Elizabeth 31 Wife of Coal Miner below Dean Forest
TRIGG Absolom 23 Coal Miner Dean Forest
Thomas 13 Scholar Dean Forest
MEREDITH Thomas Son in Law 30 Coal Miner Married Little Dean
Mary 9 Scholar Little Dean
Martha 6 East Dean
Samuel 4 Little Dean
Lucy 1 East Dean
EDWARDS Timothy Lodger 27 Hallier coal Forest of Dean

1861 Census East Dean
Benjamin Trigg 72 East Dean
Absalom 34 son Coal Miner East Dean
Sarah wife 30 Hereford
Benjamin son 4 East Dean
Elizabeth dtr 1 & 1/2 East Dean

I have the will of Lucy Marfell's father John and a bequeath is made to Benjamin Trigg with Lucy having died before 1841.

I have the marriage certificate between John Trigg & Ann Matthews which shows his father as George, I also have the birth certificates for two of their children Lucy & Mary Ann.

I cannot follow the Penn connection, could someone explain.

I can Email a copy of the above mentioned will.

Jim Ashton

Mary MEEK 1854 ? (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 12:23:59 +0000

1861
Moses Meek abt 1830 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Ann Meek abt 1831 Abinghall, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Clarea Ann Meek abt 1860 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Emma Meek abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Isaiah Meek abt 1855 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Leah Meek abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Meek abt 1854 Ruardean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire

1871
Moses Meek abt 1831 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Clara A Meek abt 1860 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Ema Meek abt 1859 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Isaiah Meek abt 1855 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Leah Meek abt 1857 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Meek abt 1854 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire

Timothy TRIGG BMD entry 1879 (reply)

shepway — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 05:20:46 +0000

Looking at the image on FreeBMD it would appear that the Page Number for the Marriage entry is No. 492. A further search produces this entry for a possible spouse:

Name: Meek, Mary
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: June
Year: 1879
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 492

Cheers
Mike

Timothy TRIGG BMD entry 1879 (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:48:00 +0000

I hope this narrows down where to look for the Marriage ref ...

Name: Trigg, Timothy
Record Type: Marriages
Quarter: June
Year: 1879
District: Gloucester (1837-1937)
County: Gloucestershire
Volume: 6a
Page: 4?2 (?)

Mary PENN 1851 East Dean (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:28:14 +0000

1861 looks like Hinders Land /Littledean Hill / Cinderford
Thomas Penn abt 1829 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1836 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Eliza Penn abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Penn abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1857 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son Flaxby, Littledean and Newnham Gloucestershire

1871 Bilson Coal nr Crump Meadow
Thomas Penn abt 1827 Walford, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1835 Walford, Herefordshire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Jane Penn abt 1866 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
John Penn abt 1869 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary A Penn abt 1853 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Thomas Penn abt 1856 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
William Penn abt 1865 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Eliza Penn abt 1858 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire

1881 Mary Ann has left home and is not found in Census
Jane Penn abt 1837 Walford, Hereford, England Wife Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Jane Penn abt 1864 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
John Penn abt 1867 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Sarah Penn abt 1873 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Thomas Penn abt 1825 Walford, Hereford, England Head Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
William Penn abt 1862 Dean Forest, Gloucestershire, England Son Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

Timothy TRIGG 1843 s/o John and Ann (reply)

slowhands — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 01:17:00 +0000

1861
John Trigg abt 1818 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Anne Trigg abt 1817 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Elizabeth Trigg abt 1853 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Emily Trigg abt 1859 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
George Trigg abt 1847 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
John Trigg abt 1855 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Trigg abt 1851 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Timothy Trigg abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1871
John Russell abt 1835 Harewoodsend, Herefordshire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Mary Ann Russell abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Timothy Trigg abt 1842 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Lodger East Dean Gloucestershire

1881
Timothy Trigg abt 1843 East Dean Head Drybrook, Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Mary Trigg abt 1854 East Dean Wife Drybrook, Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England
Kitty May Trigg abt 1880 East Dean Daughter Drybrook, Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucestershire, England

1891 Harry Hill transcribed as Grigg
Grigg, Timothy abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Head East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Mary abt 1854 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Wife East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Archibald M abt 1887 Ross, Herefordshire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Ethel abt 1891 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Eva abt 1884 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Hilda abt 1882 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Kitty abt 1881 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Mildred abt 1885 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Daughter East Dean Gloucestershire
Grigg, Morton abt 1889 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son East Dean Gloucestershire

1901
Timothy Trigg abt 1843 East Dean, Gloucestershire, England Boarder Portbury Somerset
Archicabald Trigg abt 1887 Leavailey, Herefordshire, England Boarder Portbury Somerset

Sower House Cottage Gorsley
Mary Trigg abt 1855 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Wife Newent Gloucestershire
Ethel Trigg abt 1891 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newent Gloucestershire
Lilly Trigg abt 1897 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newent Gloucestershire
Mildred Trigg abt 1886 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Daughter Newent Gloucestershire
Morton Trigg abt 1889 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Son Newent Gloucestershire

Mary Ketty Trigg abt 1880 Drybrook, Gloucestershire, England Servant Aston Ingham Herefordshire

Kitty TRIGG BMD (reply)

Ann Suttie — Wed, 14 Sep 2005 17:43:04 +0000

Sorry been so long getting back didnt rec email notification thanks again so much for your help Ann

Kitty TRIGG BMD (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:07:36 +0000

If you order up a copy of the Birth register entry you should see the Mothers maiden name :-

Kitty Trigg
Birth Quarter Sept 1880
Westbury on Severn
Volume: 6a Page: 245

Timothy TRIGG 1843 s/o John and Ann (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:57:13 +0000

1851 East Dean

TRIGG John 32 Collier East Dean
Ann 33 Ruardean
Lucy 11 Scholar East Dean
Timothy 8 Scholar East Dean
Silvy 6 East Dean
George 4 East Dean
Mary Ann 1 East Dean

Timothy TRIGG Drybrook possible (reply)

slowhands — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 05:00:04 +0000

1881 living Drybrook

Timothy TRIGG Head M Male 38 East Dean Coal Proprietor (Dlr)
Mary TRIGG Wife M Female 27 East Dean
Kitty May TRIGG Daughter Female 10 m East Dean

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Source Information:
Dwelling Drybrook
Census Place Westbury On Severn - East Dean, Gloucester, England
Family History Library Film 1341608
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2521 / 79
Page Number 4

Possibly Harrow Hill Green http://www.users.waitrose.com/~iapope/CoalHarrowHill.html
extract
"F3 575
20 September 1889 Timothy Trigg applying for a re-grant. Dead rent to be £5, royalty 3d. but Trigg not happy ‘Dear Sir. Your terms are excessive for the old thrice abandoned gale.’ ‘There are if any only a few small pillars.’
Outcrop coal, a series of downthrow faults as Trigg had proved in Prosper Colliery on Harrow Hill. Had lost coal four times in driving eighty yards.

25 March 1890 Having begun the shaft the work was now standing for the want of stone to case the shaft. Wanting a lease of a disused quarry.

9 June 1890 Gale granted to Timothy Trigg "

Trigg/Penn possible

amm suttie — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 05:04:13 +0000

I am searching for any information on Timothy Trigg married a Mary
daughter Kitty the family was from east dean I understand does anyone know
this branch of the trigg family or timothys wife marys maiden name thankyou anything would be great Ann