Forest of Dean FHT Forum - John HARTLAND/GOUGH - Rodley

John HARTLAND/GOUGH - Rodley (reply)

m p griffiths — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:21:49 +0000

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Adminstration) 1861-1941

Will - 6 December 1866

John HARTLAND - Effects under £9,000

The Will of John HARTLAND in the Parish of Westbury-upon-Severn, Gentleman, deceased who died 2 April 1866 at Rodley aforesaid was proved at Gloucester by the oaths of James GOUGH of Rodley aforesaid Gentleman, William HARTLAND of Rodley aforesaid Gentleman, the Son and William WINTLE of Rodley aforesaid, Gentleman the Executors.

1841 Westbury on Severn
Rodley

John HARTLAND - 75 - all born in County
John HARTLAND - 39
James GOUGH - 5 *
Hannah DAVIS - Female Servant
Mary DAVIS -4

?
* FOD records, christening at Westbury on Severn 30 August 1835 - James (Farmer) & Ann (couple more children of this couple inc - John HARTLAND GOUGH - 27 September 1837 Westbury) - who married 3 Mary 1832 WOS - James GOUGH/Ann HARTLAND

1851 Westbury on Severn
Dove House

John HARTLAND - Wdr - 84 - born Newent
Hannah DAVIS - Servant - Married - 42 - born Westbury

Hartland residing in Carwents 1854 (reply)

Erraticnz — Tue, 12 Jul 2011 03:03:31 +0000

Thank you so much Jeff
Now I know where the Hartland side of my family lived in Newent.
When I eventually get to the UK I will look it up.
Many Thanks
Eric

Hartland residing in Carwents 1854 (reply)

Jefff — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:49:38 +0000

And the Kellys 1879 Directory for Newent on this site lists

"Morris Thomas, farmer, Carwents"

http://www.forest-of-dean.net/kellys/Newent_1879.htm

The directories usually give words such as Cugley, Okle, Gorsley, Ploddy House, Baldwins etc etc against each Farmer's name entry, clearly indicating a place/area I think.

I wonder if it's a mispelt relation to the Welsh placename Caerwent ?.

Sure enough Googling "Caerwents, Newent" gives a small cluster of buildings (Farm ?) near Kent's Green, southeast of Newent.

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2367493

http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/map.htm

Hope that helps you Eric.

Hartland residing in Carwents 1854 (reply)

Erraticnz — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 19:47:55 +0000

This ties in with information I have, but what is meant by Commons Farm is that the name of the farm or different.
Many thanks.

Hartland residing in Carwents 1854 (reply)

Paul Andrews — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 10:28:19 +0000

1851 England Census

Cugley Tything

Ennumeration District 4a, Newent.

From the description of the enumeration district 'Alms House Green, Carwents, Buttridge Court'.

When looking at the image, the property after Buttridge Court is occupied by John Hartland and family, although the name appears as Commons Farm [?].

Hartland residing in Carwents 1854 (reply)

Paul Andrews — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:58:33 +0000

It appears that this is the name of a farm.

From Slater's 1852 Directory of Newent:

HARTLAND John, Carwents

John HARTLAND ? (reply)

slowhands — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 09:19:47 +0000

which parish is this census data extracted from

Is it this one ?

1851 Dove House, Rodley
John Hartland abt 1767 Newent, Gloucestershire, England Head Westbury On Severn, Gloucestershire

Hartland residing in Carwents 1854

Erraticnz — Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:20:11 +0000

I live in New Zealand but my great grandfather (farmer) came from Newent parish.
In the 1854 census it gives his father John Hartland residence as Carwents.
Where and what was Carwents.
Eric Harrison