Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Two birth records for Mary MILES

Two birth records for Mary MILES (reply)

Jefff — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:40:54 +0000

PS WRONG AGAIN !
Like a FOOL I didnt spot that both records show the SAME baptism dates.
Serves me right, I should have been trying to solve my multitude of other problems instead of reading this addictive website.
SORRY !

Two birth records Newland Parish (reply)

slowhands — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:49:50 +0000

We see similar duplication with Bream and Newland

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?id=20848

Two birth records for Mary MILES (reply)

grahamdavison — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:31:43 +0000

At this time Coleford was a Chapelry of Newland, so a number of baptisms are recorded in both registers.

Two birth records for Mary MILES (reply)

Jefff — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:21:46 +0000

Hi Peter, to reiterate to help my muddled mind,
As you say from FoD PRs:

Record_ID: 8321
Entry_Number: 165
Year: 1810
Month: Feb
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: MILES
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Phebe
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P93 IN 1/3
Page_Number: 25
Parish_Chapel: Coleford
Soundex: M420

Record_ID: 265639
Entry_Number:
Year: 1810
Month: Feb
Day: 18
Parents_Surname: MILES
Child_Forenames: Mary
Fathers_Forenames: W[illia]m
Mothers_Forenames: Phoebe
Mothers_Surname:
Residence: Coleford
Occupation:
Officiating_Minister:
Event: Baptism
Memoranda: born 14 Aug 1808 at Colford Chapel
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/5
Page_Number: 43
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex: M420

In my admittedly limited experience it wasn't that unusual to be Baptised more than once, at different places, although admittedly these notes are rather odd !
I see there's quite a few Mary Miles being born/Baptised in the Forest around that time, although of course only the above two have Wm & Phoebe. I did wonder if, from the odd dates, these are actually two different Marys with the first dying as an infant ?.. I've seen such things a few times in my own research.
However I cannot find a relevant Burial Record on this site.
Looking at all Mary Miles Marriage Records for Newland & Coleford abt 1820 or so only gives this one.

Record_ID: 36093
Entry_Number: 471
Year: 1824
Month: Oct
Day: 2
Grooms_Surname: JONES
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age:
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation:
Grooms_Residence: Newland
Grooms_Fathers_Surname:
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames:
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation:
Brides_Surname: MILES
Brides_Forenames: Mary
Brides_Age:
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation:
Brides_Residence: Newland
Brides_Fathers_Surname:
Brides_Fathers_Forenames:
Brides_Fathers_Occupation:
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: He marks she signs
Witness_1: Johna[tho]n Willetts
Witness_2: Mary Jones
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: H. Douglas Vicar
Event: Marriage
Memoranda:
Notes:
Register_Reference: P227 IN 1/11
Page_Number: 157
Parish_Chapel: Newland
Soundex_Groom: J520
Soundex_Bride: M420

Sadly no parent's names or brides' age quoted to check against.
Despite this site having PRs for 49 Mary Jones in Newland alone I cannot see your Mary's, so again no clues there, sorry.

Daft question but do you know for definite if there were one or perhaps two Marys ?.
Just a thought...

Two birth records for Mary MILES (reply)

admin — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 08:10:30 +0000

Baptised at both Coleford and Newland
http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=25747#p25750

Two birth records for Mary MILES

isherwop — Wed, 13 Jul 2011 07:55:30 +0000

Can someone please suggest an explanation for these two contradictory baptismal records FOD Record IDs 8321 and 265639. Both are for Mary MILES daughter of William and Phebe MILES on 18 Feb 1810. One took place at Coleford Parish Chapel and the other at Newland Parish Chapel. The Newland record adds that Mary was born 14 August 1808 at Coleford Chapel! Thanks, Peter I