Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) Help with Will please!

Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) Help with Will please! (reply)

cjk136 — Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:50:33 +0000

Good morning and thank you for some more info I didn't know.

I was also interested to know if the name in the surname column should really have been George and the forename MARFELL or if this was an error? If he was a son in law, which daughter did he marry? Also was it common in those days for only sons to be beneficiaries and to ignore the daughters?!

Will Number Will_00704
Details of Will

Surname MARFELL
First Name Thomas
Abode Ruardean Hill
Occupation Stonemason
Year Proved 1867
Page Number 216
Year of Death 1859
Month of Death Aug
Day of Death 29
Value Under £20

Beneficiaries and Others

Surname Forename Role Relationship Will Name
MARFELL Miles Beneficiary Son MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MARFELL Enoch Beneficiary Son MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MARFELL Thomas Beneficiary Son MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MARFELL Benjamin Beneficiary Son MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
GEORGE Marfell Executor Son in Law MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MARFELL Eliza Beneficiary Wife MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MOUNTJOY Joseph Executor Witness MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
WOODWARD Thomas Witness MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MARFELL George Witness MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill
MARFELL George Witness MARFELL Thomas: Ruardean Hill

Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) Help with Will please! (reply)

mrsbruso — Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:49:25 +0000

On at least a couple of records I have also seen son-in-law or step-son used as a term, with the child then described as "son of my daughter so and so". Apparently these terms used to have a more fluid meaning than they have for us today.

At that point I usually look at the parish records and try to make sense of it, put it on the back burner, or ask for help . . . not all of this is a straight forward as many of us would hope!

Good luck.

Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) Help with Will please! (reply)

cjk136 — Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:52:33 +0000

Thank you vey much for the information and your prompt response.

Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) Help with Will please! (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:32:07 +0000

This is on Ancestry -

England & Wales, National Probate Calender - 1867

MARFELL Thomas - effects under £20

17 May

The Will of Thomas MARFELL late of Ruardean Hill in the Parish of East Dean in the County of Gloucester, Stonemason deceased who died 29 August 1859 at Ruardean Hill aforesaid, was proved at Gloucester by the oath of Joseph MOUNTJOY of Little Dean Woodside in the Parish of Lea Baily in the County aforesaid Butcher and Farmer one of the Executors.

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probably on a previous thread...

1851 Census, Ruardean, Woodside

MARFELL

Thomas - 55 - Stone Mason, born Ruardean
Elizabeth - 51
Miles - 18
Benjamin - 13
Enoch - 13
Thomas - 9
Elizabeth - grand-daughter - 1

over the page, next house

MARFELL

George - 39 - Hallier, born Glos. Ruardean
Elizabeth - 35
George - 17
Allen - 2
Andrew - 4
John - 8 months

son-in-law - also used to mean (step-son)

Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) Help with Will please!

cjk136 — Sun, 17 Jul 2011 13:59:39 +0000

Please could anyone help me understand the will of Thomas MARFELL (1796-1859) of Ruardean Hilll (year proved 1867 no 00704)? I think there may be an error, though I am new to this.

The fifth line says that a Marfell GEORGE is executor & son in law - should that be George MARFELL? If so, is he a son in law and who did he marry?

Also there are two other George MARFELLs listed as witnesses? Is one likely to be his brother in law George MARFELL (8 Apr 1832- 26 Jun 1911)? Any ideas on the third one? All thoughts would be most welcome.