Forest of Dean FHT Forum - Jeremiah Kear possible mother Eleanor Kear

Jeremiah Kear possible mother Eleanor Kear (reply)

m p griffiths — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 08:15:53 +0000

By using the Advance Search: try and make family groups.... also search for witnesses.....

An Eleanor had two children baptised at Newland around the same time as Jeremiah

Eleanor - mother Eleanor - (residence Workhouse) - in 1795
Dinah - mother Eleanor - Breem - 1799 (each time no father's name) - also baptised at Bream (illegitimate)

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William & Eleanor KEAR - residence Bream, Parish Chapel Newland - had a number of children (a generation before)

William 1749
Richard 1759
Benjamin 1762
Eleanor - 1768
Samuel - 1773
Mary - 1776
Peter - 1778

FOD records, death Eleanor KEAR - 25 November 1816, residence Bream, age 88 years (Newland)

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Marriage at Newland 11 April 1803, Eleanor KEAR/Richard HILL

witnesses: Benjamin KEAR - and Thos BOND

Baptism at Newland ; parents Richard & Eleanor Hill

John 1803 and two baptisms at St Briavels - Elizabeth 1805 and William 1807

Burial at St Briavels of a Richard HILL - 2 November 1808

1841 Census St Briavels

Elinore HILL, F/S age 70 - born in County

and FOD records, Burial at St Briavels 22 February 1846 - Eleanor HILL age 81

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and another marriage at Newland - 3 November 1800

Eleanor KEAR/Edward JAMES - witnesses ; Eliza KEAR and Geo KEAR (with consent of parents)

Jeremiah Kear possible mother Eleanor Kear (reply)

unknown — Sun, 08 Apr 2012 01:21:02 +0000

No trace of a legitimate birth seems to exist for Jeremiah KEAR,who's first marriage was 1831 to Elizabeth Shortell. The closest birth is that at Newland 17 April 1791, to ELEANOR Kear, it would appear that this may be illegitimate.Has anyone any trace of Eleanor birth,marriage or death? If I could get her parents that would be brilliant.Sonia.

Thomas KEAR/Lousa JENNINGS (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 08:11:55 +0000

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Thomas KEAR married Louisa JENNINGS - Gloucester St Mark 1858

and

Frederick William KEAR - birth 1859, Gloucester South Hamlet, mother's maiden name JENNINGS

1861 Census, Gloucester Barton St Mary
Ryecroft St

KEAR

Thomas - 22 - Shoemaker - all born in County
Louisa - 21
Frederick -1

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(there is a Thomas KEAR age 3 on the 1841 census in Gloucester - Hare Lane,
with parents
Jeremiah age 40, - occupation (I think, Tanner)
Eliza 25, ****
along with brother Daniel 1 (Glos. Burial Index - Death FreeBDM of a Daniel KEAR in 1841 - also Daniel KEAR, 16w 31 July 1842, Upper Tanner's Yard, Glos. Burial Index)

On the 1851 census, a THOMAS KEER age 13
and a (Charles KEER age 7 ? mother's maiden name HARRIS - on Glos BDM ) - are in the Gloucester District Workhouse - and who is still in the Workhouse in 1861)

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CLDS: Eliza HARRIS baptism 26 June 1814, Glos. St Mary De Lobe, parents Richard & Patience)
Glos Marriage Index: Richard HARRIS/Patience BROWN - 27 November 1806, by banns, at Sandhurst

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Gloucestershire Records Office, have a Jeremiah KEAR age 76 in the Glos. Union, pauper, 8 December 1859 - c c1783)

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Ancestry do have a conviction of an Eliza KEAR - birth date 1817 on the 4 August 1847, at Gloucester, Imprisonment, Larceny before convd. of Felony

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Gloucestershire Marriage Index

Jeremiah KEAR married Elizabeth SHORTELL, (SHERTELL on Church of Latter Day Saints - SHORTELL on Freereg) 3 April 1831 - Gloucester St John the Baptist - and then again Jeremiah KEAR married Eliza HARRIS (Father Richard HARRIS)- 12 Oct 1840 again St John the Baptist)
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CLDS: Baptism at Glos. St Mary De Lobe: 26 June 1814 - Eliza HARRIS, parents Richard & Patience) Richard was a Carpenter, Journeyman, and has another child Harriett - christened at Glos St Mary De Lobe (residence Wotton) - 7 January 1816, later children were christened at Sandhurst.

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Glos. Burial Index has a death of a James SHORTELL - age 70 on the 6 September 1835 at Glos. St John the Baptist, and a Mary SHORTELL, age 64 - Glos St. John - 6 December 1829

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and Death Elizabeth KEAR age 40 (June Qtr 1840) Gloucester St Nicholas - Glos. Burial Index, Kingsholm St Mary

Frederick William Kear 1859 not Isaac's son! (reply)

unknown — Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:18:04 +0000

Boy was I wrong! I had a niggling doubt, so I got FWK's marriage certificate in which he states his father's name as Thomas & his Home address as 144 Melbourne Street,
Gloucester. Thomas is at this address in the census in 1881 before the marriage in question & after in 1891. Convinces me! Sorry I misled other's as to FWK's parents being Isaac Kear & Mary Ann Wellington, but I myself was misled. Fortunately documents are factual. Better hunting, Sonia Kear

re: Isaac Kear & Mary Wellington son (reply)

unknown — Mon, 16 Jan 2012 01:24:59 +0000

Frederick William Kear b. 4Q 1859 at Gloucester,Glos 6A 255.Appears in 1881census as a Lodger with John Prosser @ b14 Booker St. Roath(Cardiff) a. 21 Mason.Married Ruth George(f. Stephen George,Bootmaker Highfield Cres,Gloucester) Sept Q. 1884 @ Gloucester 6A 511. Appeared 1901 census FW Kear a.41,Slate mason foreman b.Glos city w. Ruth a.41 Kenneth a. 2 @ Cardiff. This is my G grandfather & his credentials are known. Regards, Sonia Kear

Oliver LEWIS KEAR c1859 Whitecroft (reply)

slowhands — Sun, 15 Jan 2012 17:15:15 +0000

This seems to be the correct Oliver and previous threads concur

KEAR Oliver KEAR
KEAR LEWIS
1859 Forest of Dean Monmouth, Coleford 14 447

Name: Oliver Kear
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1859
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Gloucestershire, Herefordshire, Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 25

Year: 1859
Month: May
Day: 15
Grooms_Surname: KEAR
Grooms_Forenames: William
Grooms_Age: 23
Groom_Condition: Bachelor
Grooms_Occupation: Mason
Grooms_Residence: Whitecroft
Grooms_Fathers_Surname: Kear
Grooms_Fathers_Forenames: William
Grooms_Fathers_Occupation: Mason
Brides_Surname: LEWIS
Brides_Forenames: Jane
Brides_Age: 20
Brides_Condition: Spinster
Brides_Occupation: [not stated]
Brides_Residence: Whitecroft
Brides_Fathers_Surname: Lewis
Brides_Fathers_Forenames: Esau
Brides_Fathers_Occupation: Collier
Licence_or_Banns: Banns
Date_of_Banns:
Signature_or_Mark: he signs she marks
Witness_1: Mark of James Dobbs
Witness_2: Mark of Elizabeth Rudge
Other_Witnesses:
Officiating_Minister: [illegible] Ebsworth
Event: Marriage
Memoranda: Incumbent
Notes:
Register_Reference: P145 IN 1/20
Page_Number: 216
Parish_Chapel: Parkend

less than 2 months later :-

Year 1859
Month Jul
Day 6
Parents Surname LEWIS
Child Forenames Oliver
Fathers Forenames [not stated]
Mothers Forenames Jane
Mothers Surname
Residence Whitecroft
Occupation Single Woman
Officiating Minister Jno[John] Jos[ep]h Ebsworth Incumbent
Event Baptism
Memoranda son of
Notes
Register Reference P245 IN 1/11
Page Number 62
Parish Chapel Parkend

1861 Whitecroft
William Kear abt 1837 Awre, Gloucestershire, England Head West Dean, Gloucestershire Mason
Jane Kear abt 1839 Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England Wife West Dean, Gloucestershire
Oliver Kear abt 1859 West Dean, Gloucestershire, England Son West Dean, Gloucestershire

Oliver KEAR b c1855/60 West Dean (reply)

Jefff — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:23:42 +0000

Hi Sonya, welcome to this great website.
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Oliver KEAR b c1855/60 West Dean (reply)

unknown — Sat, 14 Jan 2012 05:44:37 +0000

There is considerable doubt that Oliver was Isaac Kear's son who married Mary Ann Wellington in Gloucester 9th Feb 1858. Their only son Frederick William b.4Q1859 was my Ggrandfather. There was a lot of trouble between Isaac & Mary Ann & her family leading to Isaac going to the Civil War in US. But he did know Oliver because descendents in Illinois know that they met. Oliver I believe married in 1881 at La Salle, Illinois to Ella Healey. Could it be that Oliver is the illegitimate son of Mary Ann, as her father's name on the marriage certificate to Isaac is Thomas. Isaac died in Streator, Illinois 21st Feb 1913. I have his military records as well if anyone wants them. Sonia Kear.

Oliver KEAR b c1855/60 West Dean (reply)

m p griffiths — Fri, 09 Sep 2011 08:07:37 +0000

previous thread

http://www.forum.forest-of-dean.net/index.php?mode=thread&id=20841#p33406

GloucestershireBDM

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

Isaac KEAR married Mary Ann WELLINGTON

Gloucester St Marks 1858

FreeBDM

J/F/M Qtr 1858

no births for KEAR/WELLINGTON on Gloucestershire BDM

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1861 Census, Lancashire - Ashton in Makerfield

Transcribed as KEAN

Edelston Lane

two lodgers + daughter

Isaac - 28 - Coal Miner, born Pillowell Glos
Mary A - 22 - born Pillowell Glos
Frances M - daughter aged 1 - born Pillowell --

There is Death on FreeBDM of Frances KEAR - J/A/S Qtr 1862 - Newcastle upon Tyne - Northumberland

(no sign of an Oliver - on the census)

There is also a marriage on FOD of an Issac KEAR marrying a Mary Ann JONES 24 July 1858, - Cinderford St John

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Mary Ann WELLINGTON - christened at Westbury on Severn - 8 April 1838 - William & Susan

and an Oliver WELLINGTON christened at Newnham - 8 October 1840 - - parents Thomas & Mary Ann

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?? does the family name OLIVER come from the WELLINGTON family

Oliver KEAR b c1855/60 West Dean

unknown — Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:51:06 +0000

I am still new to this site and trying to figure it out so if I missed something forgive me. I posted before part of my family and how there was a mistake but I beleive I made the mistake. My g,g,granfather Oliver Kear(b-1855/60,West Dean) sailed to america aboard the Abyssinia and arrived on 12 May 1880. Every census record and family tree that I can find always lists him as the son of william kear and Jane Lewis. I have found 1 family tree which lists his father as Isaac Kear(b-1837,D-21 feb.1913) who married Mary Ann Wellington. I have tryed to contact the owner of the site but no luck.

If this is correct, then this particular line goes back to Adam de Keyrlun. My problem is trying to link Oliver to Isaac. Does anyone have any information that can help me? I can give you more dates if it will help.

Paul